Man STOP playin! This kinda pisses me off. Why MS stay messing stuff up?
Funny someone bumped the other thread a few minutes ago & I seen the comment I made saying that MS might jump to a new generation in 2025 /26
Man STOP playin! This kinda pisses me off. Why MS stay messing stuff up?
Funny someone bumped the other thread a few minutes ago & I seen the comment I made saying that MS might jump to a new generation in 2025 /26
not to mention ps3 was actually performing quite a bit worse than 360The X360 also launched at $399, whereas the PS3 launched at $599!!! HUGE difference.
You have to realize that Microsoft knows they will not sell as many consoles as Sony but they are actually trying to disrupt the business model that PlayStation has found so much success in.If this happens MS needs to fire Phil immediately. I'd fire him if he even suggested something this stupid in a meeting.
Digital Foundry compare PS5 & Xbox Series X but in reality most people will be playing the game on Xbox Series S while there is less than 1/4 playing the games on Series X vs PS5 .
Fast forward PS5 Pro release & say it sells 10 million while Series X is around 15 million it should be fair to compare them as the premium consoles .
Knowing that the other company is doing it doesn't mean that they will follow
PS4 Pro & Xbox One X didn't really sell too well
Please God no. Devs have enough trouble already making games for two different xboxy. Imagine a 3rd when it's by far the smallest market share.
Already have that, it's called Xbox Series S.Xbox series L
Yes the sales does have something to do with itSeries X and PS5 are the premium consoles being compared. You keep mentioning ownership levels as a point of comparison in technical specs on a YouTube channel that compares console performance in games across different devices. The sales of one or the other have nothing to do with anything. All they’re doing is comparing technical performance of the machines running the same game and seeing the minor differences.
This whole thing Series X being the “Pro” model and there not being a mid-gen refresh for X|S this console generation was *marketing* done by Xbox to talk up the capabilities of the Series X’s specs at launch. It wasn’t intended to literally mean there wouldn’t be a mid-gen refresh like a PS5 Pro or a Series X Pro.
What? They absolutely did. What are you talking about.
That’s not the problem for MS, the problem is that people are still waiting for Starfield, Forza, Hellblade 2, Fable, next DOOM, Gears 6, Indiana Jones, The Elder Scrolls 6, Avowed, Clockwork Revolution, State of Decay 3, etc.oh and no they will not start “next gen” a year early, only to be obliterated again by a ps6 next year . lol
No we won't.
Lol. Just hoping shorter generation into existence. Sure jan.Sure, doesn't change the situation. Rage against the wind bro!
I actually like the idea as well and get a new toy every couple of years
MakinG is one thing. They can stop this anytime. SUPPORTING Series S, is something MS would have to do due to their promise. If they stop releasing games on their more successful console mid gen, the backlash on the internet would be big, BIG.Surely they will stop SS once SX Pro is released. They cannot be making 3 SKU.
MakinG is one thing. They can stop this anytime. SUPPORTING Series S, is something MS would have to do due to their promise. If they stop releasing games on their more successful console mid gen, the backlash on the internet would be big, BIG.
Making a pro in 2025 would mean being late to the party like the One X was. If we get a monster in exchange like last time it could be worth it for us, but I doubt it because the SX is already really good so it will be hard to go that much further. A Xbox Next in 2027 or 2026 would either mean that Xbox is too early like the Dreamcast was( in my opinion of course) or just way too late versus the huge lead that the PS5 will have. Great consoles often have long legs. We are seeing another proof of this with the Switch. Not that I disagree with you on this matter. I also think that Xbox should try to go early next gen to try to do what they did with the 360. But they do not seem to be as good as Sony is in making consoles in the last few generations so I do not trust them to future proof this against a PS6 that should have all the advantages that a market leader can hope for. And by going latter can use better tech.SS specs are not good enough to last till the end of this gen. Microsoft will be hoping SS guys to upgrade to SX and SX to SX Pro. Anyways right now it is all specualtion and nobody knows but I think SX Pro should release at the worse by 2025. Otherwise just release SX2 in 2027 or even 2026 if possible.
Nope, they'll stop the SX. They had too many fire sales with the SS being the lead platform.Surely they will stop SS once SX Pro is released. They cannot be making 3 SKU.
They'll get absolutely killed if they do this. PS5 Pro would get all the "high-end" console mindshare for 2 whole years making the Series for an even harder sell. Then when Xbox-Next is to be released, it would release by itself and because: 1. there is no PS6 by its side and 2. Xbox has screwed the pooch with their console namings, many would not consider it a new generation. "Is this the equivalent of PS5 Pro but for Microsoft?". Then you get a Playstation two years later with a whole node and architectural advantage and the big 6 beside it.PS5 Pro 2024 , Xbox Next 2026 , PS6 2028 ?
Smart move because they can't go head to head with Playstation
I saw this tweet, I honestly have no idea wtf this all means. Apparently it's gonna be a "beast" if this is all true?
Assuming it is all true, you'd think MS can't afford to sit it out until 2028 with only the XSX and S. I sure as fuck hope not.
You have to realize that Microsoft knows they will not sell as many consoles as Sony but they are actually trying to disrupt the business model that PlayStation has found so much success in.
When you look around & see Nintendo , PlayStation & even 3rd parties selling 10 , 15 , 20 , 30 & even 50 million copies of traditional games while you haven't released a new game in years that sold close to 10 million you have to know that you messed up big time but they will cause as much disruption as they can until something change.
That’s not the problem for MS, the problem is that people are still waiting for Starfield, Forza, Hellblade 2, Fable, next DOOM, Gears 6, Indiana Jones, The Elder Scrolls 6, Avowed, Clockwork Revolution, State of Decay 3, etc.
When would these devs have something ready for Series 2 if that gen starts early?
It would just be another generation of waiting for 1st party content to arrive.
It’s like MS software and hardware is completely off sync. To be fair Sony have that issue too with Naughty Dog and Suckerpunch, they had a big game too late in previous gen and their big current gen games are missing. But it’s like MS have that issue with all their devs. Except Playground, well, the Forza Horizon team at least.
As someone suggested consoles are no more that pc tv centric hardware, and we will have shorter gens for sure, this is the future steam machines envisioned but didn't deliver. Choose your party and update every couple of years, or play on pcs and upgrade when you feel like. Backward compatibility is a resolved issue... Now forward compatibility on the other end...
Or..................................I know this is crazy. But what if.........................................they focused more on creating great content and stopped with the BS "disrupting the video game market" stuff?
They'll get absolutely killed if they do this. PS5 Pro would get all the "high-end" console mindshare for 2 whole years making the Series for an even harder sell. Then when Xbox-Next is to be released, it would release by itself and because: 1. there is no PS6 by its side and 2. Xbox has screwed the pooch with their console namings, many would not consider it a new generation. "Is this the equivalent of PS5 Pro but for Microsoft?". Then you get a Playstation two years later with a whole node and architectural advantage and the big 6 beside it.
Or..................................I know this is crazy. But what if.........................................they focused more on creating great content and stopped with the BS "disrupting the video game market" stuff?
People don't seem to get that Series S is the console Xbox is depending on for a bigger userbase & Series X is pretty much the show pieceNope, they'll stop the SX. They had too many fire sales with the XS being the lead platform.
Not really because this is a pro console & not ment for mass market so the yelds don't have to be as high as a base model.No cut CUs for yields makes the poster an instant bullshitter.
They could but for their games as a service model to work they need for people to stop buying 10 , 15 , 20 & 30 million copies of games from the competitionOr..................................I know this is crazy. But what if.........................................they focused more on creating great content and stopped with the BS "disrupting the video game market" stuff?
The PS4 Pro and X1X both had disabled CUs. No reason to treat this one differently and PS5 Pro will probably sell more than its predecessor did so not having them disabled will cost Sony that much more. If they wanted higher compute they'd just make a bigger chip.Not really because this is a pro console & not ment for mass market so the yelds don't have to be as high as a base model.
Not really because this is a pro console & not ment for mass market so the yelds don't have to be as high as a base model.
PS4 Pro & Xbox One X were the 1st of their kind & no one knew how good or bad they would sell . Now they have a sample size ( PS4 Pro was selling 1:10 )The PS4 Pro and X1X both had disabled CUs. No reason to treat this one differently and PS5 Pro will probably sell more than its predecessor did so not having them disabled will cost Sony that much more. If they wanted higher compute they'd just make a bigger chip.
That's not an argument. You are taking the precedent and just say "That doesn't count for reasons". Even the 4090, the top of the line in GPUs that sells for $2000, has disabled compute.PS4 Pro & Xbox One X were the 1st of their kind & no one knew how good or bad they would sell . Now they have a sample size ( PS4 Pro was selling 1:10 )
"The RX 7800 XT is rumored to feature the fully-enabled Navi 32 RDNA 3 GPU. Reportedly equipped with 60 Compute Units"That's not an argument. You are taking the precedent and just say "That doesn't count for reasons". Even the 4090, the top of the line in GPUs that sells for $2000, has disabled compute.
Yeah but as said the downside is that the devs that is there at the end of a generation will have nothing big ready for early next gen.This was a great thing for Playstation because they fully supported their PS4 console till the end. Which was still selling well, by the way.
I will be surprised if there is a new Xbox at all. MS wants out.Funny someone bumped the other thread a few minutes ago & I seen the comment I made saying that MS might jump to a new generation in 2025 /26
Even though I'm sure they would love it if they didn't have to manufacture consoles anymore & get someone else to do it the only problem is that they will still need a base spec to make their games to.I will be surprised if there is a new Xbox at all. MS wants out.
Because from a Navi 32 wafer some happen to come out perfect and AMD can charge more for them. And remember that RDNA3 started production a year ago but just now they have accumulated enough perfect Navi 32 chips to sell a product out of them in a reasonable quantity. Most of them have some problem and get downgraded to a lower class GPU. For PS5 PRO to use the full die would mean that a single faulty CU leads to the whole SoC being thrown in the trash. They don't have segmentation where they will use the lesser chips at a PS5 Pro Micro."The RX 7800 XT is rumored to feature the fully-enabled Navi 32 RDNA 3 GPU. Reportedly equipped with 60 Compute Units"
RX 7800 XT vs RTX 4070 battle possibly on the cards as price, performance, and release window of the Radeon GPU leak
The RX 7800 XT is rumored to feature the fully-enabled Navi 32 RDNA 3 GPU. Reportedly equipped with 60 Compute Units, 16 GB of GDDR6 memory, and 64 MB of Infinity Cache, the card could be a direct competitor to the RTX 4070 if the latest report from RedGamingTech about the price and performance...www.notebookcheck.net
That means it will use all the compute units
Yeah but as said the downside is that the devs that is there at the end of a generation will have nothing big ready for early next gen.
It worked for Sony since they had other big devs doing Ratchet, Ragnarök and Forbidden West.
But for MS it has not worked. And it would be terrible to repeat that again by starting a new Series 2 gen right after they’ve poured out a wave of 1st party titles for Series X.
MS need to have a couple years now with maybe 2 titles per year, with the devs going first having a couple years to ramp up for next gen. That’s the only way.
With a 2026 Series 2 launch they would need to move titles people expect to get on Series X to Series 2; like Gears 6, Perfect Dark, next DOOM, The Elder Scrolls VI, Indiana Jones, Mara, The Outer Worlds 2, Forza Horizon 6, etc.
Idk, maybe it would be okay if there was 100% backwards and forward compatibility so Series X owners can play all those games too but at lower res and fps.
But wouldn’t that make Series 2 like a Pro console?
Wouldn’t feel like a real generational shift.
They are idiots to think that a pro console will hold back the base consoles from being used lol
Think about it the PS4 Pro came out 6 years ago but PS4 is still being pushed today
Idk, maybe it would be okay if there was 100% backwards and forward compatibility so Series X owners can play all those games too but at lower res and fps.
But wouldn’t that make Series 2 like a Pro console?
Wouldn’t feel like a real generational shift.
Like terafloppies.It's old footage for their new channel they've "evolved" since then
I think Rich just wanted people to hear how stupid Alex sounded againLike terafloppies.