This is SB-E socket 2011, a very high end enthusiast platform. It's the same chip you have except there is a $600 model with 6 cores.Kadey said:So basically my motherboard is useless for upgrading now? Ivy bridge won't even support it?
Doubt it will get better than the MC deal. Yes the 2500K is the best currently all around CPU on the market. Make sure you get a P67 or Z68 motherboard.demolitio said:I need to find the boneyard for "old" parts of people who upgrade all the time. Surely there's going to be a lot of CPU's and GPU's on ebay but I can never convince myself to trust buying used parts on there. Do you guys sell your old shit on ebay or craigslist/locally? I always wondered...lol
As long as the i5 2500k has a long lifepsan, then I guess that's what I'll go for at Christmas and wait on the GPU I guess. These new CPU's just don't seem worth the money though but I guess that's relative to the person.
Will there be better deals for parts in general on Black Friday or is it something you don't see big sales on often? I'm wondering if I should just jump on the Microcenter deal now since I can get my "gift" early this year.
Edit: And I'm taking a guess the i5 beats out the 6-core AMD CPU's too? God I want to make sure I get this right since it's my only shot, lol.
Thanks man. Of the two motherboards, would you suggest the Z68 I take it? I'm trying to decide which is worth the price right now.Hazaro said:This is SB-E socket 2011, a very high end enthusiast platform. It's the same chip you have except there is a $600 model with 6 cores.
Ivy Bridge is the CPU upgrade going from 32nm to 22nm and adding tri-gate 3D transistors.
Ivy Bridge should be compatible with your motherboard which is socket 1155.
Doubt it will get better than the MC deal. Yes the 2500K is the best currently all around CPU on the market. Make sure you get a P67 or Z68 motherboard.
Computer hardware sales are largely done on internet forums.
Performance is the same, Z68 has 2 extra features, onboard video out from CPU and Intel SRT for an SSD cache to your HDD.demolitio said:Thanks man. Of the two motherboards, would you suggest the Z68 I take it?
Not compatible.Theonik said:Here's another question, will X79 fully support Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge CPUs? As in, can I use a 2500k with this board and then upgrade to an Ivy Bridge with this board? Has the feature set of the boards launching with Ivy been discussed?
Can you spend $900 on CPU+mobo+RAM alone?Hylian7 said:Well I was considering ordering stuff for a i5 2500k build next week. Should I change my plans on that one in favor of this?
Would rather not at this point, but it this going to really be worth it for games in the long run?Hazaro said:Performance is the same, Z68 has 2 extra features, onboard video out from CPU and Intel SRT for an SSD cache to your HDD.
Price should be roughly the same. Any more posts, take it to the PC Thread since it isn't SB-E.
No.
Can you spend $900 on CPU+mobo+RAM alone?
isamu said:Do we have a ballpark *MONTH* early next year on when we can expect Ivy Bridge to arrive?
Hylian7 said:Would rather not at this point, but it this going to really be worth it for games in the long run?
Yeah, true. I really don't like that the cheapest unlocked multiplier one is $999. I think I'll just overclock a 2500k. Sure it's not 6 cores, but fuck it.bodyboarder said:If your having to ask the question, then this isn't for you. Get the i5 now, and Ivy bridge down the road would be my suggestion.
Anyway back on topic. Love these new chips, pity I couldn't justify the purchase.
LGA1366 is dead, LGA2011 is what comes to it's place. Ivy Bridge will probably get to LGA2011 too in the form of IB-E. LGA1155 is for 4-cores with GPUs. LGA2011 is for 6-cores without GPU. Main benefits of LGA2011 are quad channel memory and more cores. Both are practically pointless for games at the moment.ElectricBlue187 said:So what is the advantage of LGA2011? Is it just for the extreme line or performance processors and LGA11xx and LGA13xx are standard going forward for Ivy Bridge? Will LGA2011 continue to be used for that purpose?
Hazaro said:This is SB-E socket 2011, a very high end enthusiast platform. It's the same chip you have except there is a $600 model with 6 cores.
Ivy Bridge is the CPU upgrade going from 32nm to 22nm and adding tri-gate 3D transistors.
Ivy Bridge should be compatible with your motherboard which is socket 1155.
Doubt it will get better than the MC deal. Yes the 2500K is the best currently all around CPU on the market. Make sure you get a P67 or Z68 motherboard.
Computer hardware sales are largely done on internet forums.
Soi-Fong said:Yeah... Think I'll just go for a 2600k. My girlfriend's friend who works in Intel's R&D says that Ivy Bridge is not much of an improvement over Sandy Bridge. What they really worked on with Ivy Bridge was video processing capabilties ehich is useless to every gamer since they'll have a dedicated video card.
Well, anyway, looking forward to the 60+ percent discounts on mobos and CPU.
Both will use the same socket and same motherboards. You can simply upgrade to IB later.Soi-Fong said:My girlfriend's friend who works in Intel's R&D says that Ivy Bridge is not much of an improvement over Sandy Bridge.
dr_rus said:Both will use the same socket and same motherboards. You can simply upgrade to IB later.
This helps with max frequencies. They are higher when slots are closer to the memory controller which is embedded in the CPU now.demosthenes said:Hmm, when did they start separating the RAM slots? This help w/ heat?
John_B said:I'm still rocking the i7-720, I'll wait for the Ivy Bridge 77W i7.
Soi-Fong said:Yeah... Think I'll just go for a 2600k. My girlfriend's friend who works in Intel's R&D says that Ivy Bridge is not much of an improvement over Sandy Bridge. What they really worked on with Ivy Bridge was video processing capabilties ehich is useless to every gamer since they'll have a dedicated video card.
Well, anyway, looking forward to the 60+ percent discounts on mobos and CPU.
Nothing will happen with your SB-E in a year. Haswell is a 1Q 2013 product and that's only for LGA1150 (4 cores max again). Haswell-E will come in the end of 2013 so by going with SB-E now you're getting the top of the crop for almost two years. Plus you really don't have to upgrade to every new socket. I'm still using Q9550 in socket 775 and I've bought this platform in the end of 2008. Only now I'm seeing enough reasons for an upgrade, I competely skipped all Nehalem/Westmere generation.redpriest said:With Ivy Bridge coming around the corner, you'd be throwing your money away. Did I also mention that Haswell also uses a completely new chipset/socket, so your upgrade is rendered meaningless in a year?
This has already been reported elsewhere, IB is primarily a big GPU upgrade+die shrink, very small improvements on the CPU side. Not really any reason not to upgrade to SB now.Soi-Fong said:Yeah... Think I'll just go for a 2600k. My girlfriend's friend who works in Intel's R&D says that Ivy Bridge is not much of an improvement over Sandy Bridge. What they really worked on with Ivy Bridge was video processing capabilties ehich is useless to every gamer since they'll have a dedicated video card.
Anandtech estimated clock for clock performance improving about 5%. Not really a big jump, and since both SB and IB should OC well that's a more accurate measurement. 20%, if that ends up being true, is probably just based on stock clocks.To those that are waiting for Ivy Bridge, I wouldn't expect much more than Sandy. Intel is primarily shrinking to 22 nm, and doing something with tri-gate transitors. They're targeting a 20% speed increase, but much of that may simply be due to higher clock rates at stock. There's a reason why Sandy can OC so easily to 4.5 GHz if cooled well enough, and 22 nm allows things to run cooler with normal cooling.
The next big jump is likely Haswell in early 2013.
chaosblade said:This has already been reported elsewhere, IB is primarily a big GPU upgrade+die shrink, very small improvements on the CPU side. Not really any reason not to upgrade to SB now.
Your issue is probably HDD/memory related, not CPU.kagete said:Sigh... maybe my tax refund next year could go to this... Or hopefully IB is earlier and I won't have to be tempted and my 2500k can hold on till then. Right now at 4.5GHz it isn't fast enough to maintain 60 FPS in my most common usage scenarios:
HON or dota2 + streaming at 720p
wow + streaming at 720p60fps or 1080p30
HON+dota2+wow all running at the same time in borderless windows for chatting purposes. Skype call ongoing simultaneous with mumble for GAF friends. +VM for work
By next year's time I imagine adding Diablo3 to my list of always-on programs PC-gamer first-world problems indeed
HardOCP said:Gaming Benchmarks
As always, these benchmarks in no way represent real-world gameplay. They are all run at very low resolutions to try our best to remove the video card as a bottleneck. I will not hesitate to say that anyone spouting these types of framerate measurements as a true measuring tool in todays climate is not servicing your needs or telling you the real truth.
mkenyon said:The only way you could bottleneck a 2500K/2600K is in a Tri/Quad SLI/X-fire setup right now. Even looking for performance increases in a 2500 resolution is niche of a niche category.
The only game that I could see huge benefits for is possibly Civ V, as that is entirely multi-threaded. Thing runs smoother on my friend's 980X + 5850 than my 2500K @ 5.0 Ghz and SLI 560tis.
*edit*
Actually, how you remove a GPU from a gaming benchmark for CPU is set the graphics to an absolute minimum to remove the GPU bottleneck. Increasing the resolution would bring the benches closer together, as the only thing limited at that point would be GPU. CPU would have little effect when the GPU is brought to it's knees.
facepalm007 said:Here's Sapphire's X79 motherboard:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/sapphire-shows-off-its-x79-pure-black-motherboard/13874.html
Sapphire X79 Pure Black:
It's still weird seeing the words "Sapphire" and "motherboard" in the same sentence.
Kinda weird that they call it the pure black when the slots are blue lol.facepalm007 said:Here's Sapphire's X79 motherboard:
http://vr-zone.com/articles/sapphire-shows-off-its-x79-pure-black-motherboard/13874.html
It's still weird seeing the words "Sapphire" and "motherboard" in the same sentence.
mkenyon said:I know I read somewhere that you do a lot more than gaming, but I'm having a hard time believing you are being limited by your CPU if you are running SB in a game. Could possibly be motherboard related. Are you referring to other applications?
Zombie James said:Thing is a beast.
Zombie James said:http://i.imgur.com/10de0.jpg[IMG]
Thing is a beast.[/QUOTE]Where's the 3D?
redpriest said:That power consumption is ghastly.