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Is Euthanasia painless?
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MrJollyLivesNextDoor
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I'm trying to work out the logistics of this, drug yourself silly and then hope you're still conscious enough to get a bag around your head and tighten it until you starve yourself of oxygen? Sounds a bit hit and miss to me.
I always think of stories with carbon monoxide, sounds like you're none the wiser to what happens, almost the same as when planes have de-pressurised and all passengers plus crew have passed out before the plane comes down. Surely that is one of the better ways to go?
EDIT: Not saying death via de-pressurised plane is best, probably a pain to organise too, just the concept of being starved of oxygen but with no pain...
MrJollyLivesNextDoor
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Sorry, double post....
velociraptor
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How much poop comes out?
Are we talking about a solid log here?
Because that's some nasty shit man.
Ugh...
Alligatorjandro
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No one knows
I might be wrong, but I read that the symptoms of suffocations are caused by the excess CO2 in the bloodstream, not the lack of oxygen.
This is why people just pass out without warning when they get to high enough altitudes without breathing aid, or when they enter a room that's filled with an inert gas like nitrogen, argon or helium. They don't show any signs of suffocation and will die pretty quickly and quietly if not rescued in time.
terrisus
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M.A.S.H. has something to say
Disclaimer: I'm not advocating suicide, saying I'm going to commit suicide, or anything like that
ThatGuyAgain
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Hopefully it is painless but not sure if that can be proven.
This thread is kind of depressing. Off to The happy thread to cheer me back up.
This thread is kind of depressing. Off to The happy thread to cheer me back up.
I remember being disturbed when I first learned this, but you get used to the idea. Death is never really clean or pretty.
Spring-Loaded
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when putting a pet down using human technology/methods, they are less likely to realize what's about to happen than a human would. The conscious lead-up to death is what's always painful.
In the instant you shoot your dog through the head, it might perceive pain, but for such a short amount of time that's less painful than letting live (assuming it's beyond recovery/sick/injured/can no longer be cared for).
Deciding whether to end one's own life or continue suffering from pain is the hard part. With methods currently available, physical pain from euthanasia is negligible compared to the potential psychological pain leading up to it.
In the instant you shoot your dog through the head, it might perceive pain, but for such a short amount of time that's less painful than letting live (assuming it's beyond recovery/sick/injured/can no longer be cared for).
Deciding whether to end one's own life or continue suffering from pain is the hard part. With methods currently available, physical pain from euthanasia is negligible compared to the potential psychological pain leading up to it.
I just sat here and watched the Terry Pratchett documentary Choosing to Die because of this thread. Found the entire thing on YouTube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWJhLeqg48
He certainly hasn't followed through with it since then. I wonder if that is because his condition hasn't gotten that much worse yet, or if he changed his mind after filming this documentary.
Ok, that's enough depressing stuff for the day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWJhLeqg48
He certainly hasn't followed through with it since then. I wonder if that is because his condition hasn't gotten that much worse yet, or if he changed his mind after filming this documentary.
Ok, that's enough depressing stuff for the day!
Shin Kojima
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When my mother was euthanized she just drank some sort of liquid that according to her tasted like orange (she actually raised the cup and said cheers lol). She just fell asleep within one or two minutes and her heart stopped a minute later. It seemed very painless.
Wow. That's a pretty crazy story. I can't imagine being as light-hearted as that sounds....
google the exit bag.
Physically? I think it's possible to make euthanasia completely painless so that you don't feel anything as you die. Mentally, I think it's harder to judge. I personally think that you'll always have that pang of mental anguish as you come to terms with your impending death and if you truly made the right decision. It'll of course subside, especially if your conviction is strong that you made the right choice, but I think it'll always be there.
You haven't noticed that people use humor in life to get through and/or to handle difficult situations/moments in their life? It might seem weird, but that's just one way of coping with some hard stuff. It's a defense mechanism of the mind.
The Lamonster
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wow, that is fucked up. Cool, I guess. I just cannot ponder wanting to kill myself.
Couldn't you realistically give someone whatever type of gas you would give them to put them under for surgery? Then you could kill them in a painless fashion. Hell, you could kill them in what would normally be a ridiculously painful experience and they wouldn't feel anything due to being unconscious. I was never really sure why death penalty advocates didn't push for that. Is it because they wanted the person to be conscious as they die to know they're dying? That alone would be cruel and unusual, in my mind.
We had a dog that we euthanized when I was a teenager because his existence was basically pain. At the end, he couldn't even stand up without struggling and causing pain. I stayed in the car because I couldn't deal with it, so I have no idea if there was any struggle or pain at the end.
I am for assisted suicide and against the death penalty.
We had a dog that we euthanized when I was a teenager because his existence was basically pain. At the end, he couldn't even stand up without struggling and causing pain. I stayed in the car because I couldn't deal with it, so I have no idea if there was any struggle or pain at the end.
I am for assisted suicide and against the death penalty.
Coreda
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Several people have survived exit bags, and recounted their experience. The people I read about lost consciousness fairly quickly, so I can't imagine there was a conscious physical pain from that point. When done correctly with pure inert gas the method doesn't trigger the brain's suffocation defense mechanism IIRC.
Threads like this are strange.
Threads like this are strange.
Blood Red Sky
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Many of the companies that make those drugs refuse to supply them for executions.
liquidspeed
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what is a GA ?
blitzcloud
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that is fucked up? being forced to live in chronic pain until a terminal illness reduces you to nothing is way worse than that, imo.
I guess you would see it with different eyes if you were suffering pains that not even morphine can calm down.
The One and Done
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No one can ever confirm it hurts or not.
Must be Switzerland or something right? Because I don't know any country in Scandinavia that allows it.
SquiddyCracker
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It depends.
If you instantly decapitate someone who is asleep, I doubt they'll feel any pain.
If you instantly decapitate someone who is asleep, I doubt they'll feel any pain.
OrlanisWorks
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Bingo. Inert gas. The best and most painless to be euthanized. Would it hurt to take a hit of LSD before hand?
I'd probably go with chocolate, lsd, valium mix. maybe some marshmallows and communion wafers to make 'last chance smores' with.
Yeah, it was in Switzerland at Dignitas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(assisted_dying_organisation)
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