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Is the Batmobile the worst AAA gameplay mechanic in recent memory?
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JigglesBunny
Banned
It's fine.
Not good.
Not bad.
It's fine.
Not good.
Not bad.
It's fine.
shadowstar
Member
The worst gameplay mechanic in AAA gaming and of the past couple generations is Detective Mode and every version of it. At least in Batman it sort of makes sense, but too many games cram it in (The Last of Us being the worst example imo).
Lord_Byron28
Member
I was gonna type this up when I was in my first hour of Batman Arkham Knight as well but I got more adjusted to the controls(I didn't realize you could move while in battle mode). Now I don't have a problem with it. It makes for easy traversal and has had some interesting puzzles and mechanics around it. I feel it's slightly excessive but it's not that bad.
The Last of us is slightly different though, it's an aid for the stealth gameplay only, not an actual detective mode like Batman or The Witcher where you use it to hunt the environment for items or information, and it isn't integral like the others are, and it can be turned off.
Fortinbras
Member
The Batmobile is ok. There's just too much of it. Also f*ck the stealth missions.
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
I also hate the overuse of detective mode in gaming
It's terrible and completely goes against why I play these games. I play batman for the combat, so it's very awkward and weird to have the batmobile in the game. It'd be like if I bought Forza 6 and in order to do the races, I had to spend 2/3 of my time running a racing company.
The Lamonster
Member
It's overused but the mechanics are just fine. If it weren't in the game, the same loud minority would be whining about how Knight is a retread of City.
JumpJeff84
Member
I don't love the Batmobile, but it's okay.
I don't use it to traverse when I'm just exploring, I just fly around and use the car only when the game makes me.
I'm only about a third done the game though, it may start to piss me off later on.
I don't use it to traverse when I'm just exploring, I just fly around and use the car only when the game makes me.
I'm only about a third done the game though, it may start to piss me off later on.
It is a fun mechanic that is way over used and beat to the ground. i like the puzzles that involve the bat mobile. Those are pretty interesting and fresh, but the tank combat got repetitive way too fast. It was a shame that most of the game boiled down to blowing up other tanks with your car or sneaking behind other tanks to shoot them from behinds.
It would have been a great mechanic if they used it maybe 25% of what they ended up using it with.
In short: great idea, way over used.
It would have been a great mechanic if they used it maybe 25% of what they ended up using it with.
In short: great idea, way over used.
DrGonzo615
Banned
Just be sure to not ignore the Batmobile when upgrading. Im pretty far in the game...past a lot of the points that people are bitching about and its honestly not that bad, unless you totally suck at tank combat.
shadowstar
Member
Yeah that aid part is the part that I dislike. They force the aid into the design because they don't trust gamers and now Joel is some super human with radar senses.
Falchion
Member
I really like the tank segments actually. It feels like a modern day Battlezone.
Yes!!! Maybe I'm loving the tank sections so much because I spent so much time playing Battlezone back in the day.
KingJ2002
Member
^^^ came here to say this. The controls take getting used to but when you got it... it's fun.
malingenie
Member
whoa there buddy! I haven't played the game, but stealth was the best part in the previous games!
KhalilSyncere
Member
Amen.
It took a minute to get acclimated and even when that happens, it still feels a lil slippery at times, but I really like it overall. I like how smooth it transitions with everything too, from controlling it remotely, to either running or gliding or jumping off a building n shit right into it and being able to just take off like nothing, to switching to battle mode real swift-like (gotta change it to Toggle control for the best feel), to ejecting out of it to soar the skies and even utilizing it in combat and puzzles. I do think it may be used a bit much, but I'm not really complaining about it. It's not perfect, but it's very fun. Shit, it definitely controls better overall than Roach does in Witcher 3, as there's no input delay between button press to the action actually happening. Best damn Batgame ever. I'd go as far to say that I love the Batmanmobile.
JigglesBunny
Banned
He means the Batmobile stealth sections. Those really are fucking awful.
Fortinbras
Member
I meant the Batmobile stealth missions.
Dio Brando
Banned
it's not bad at all.i just disliked the fact that they crammed the game with tank battles, instead of having actual boss fights, which for me weren't bad battles themselves, but i would've preffered bosses.
I see a lot of "I didn't feel like Batman in the tank". I certainly did. I felt like it's what a 21st Century Batman would do if he had to fight off a Drone Army, because Batman is some horribly written bullshit that has Plot Armor for every conceivable situation and this fit right in with all the other nonsense. As stated before, I absolutely loved the Batmobile and it handles perfectly imo, so I'm totally okay with nonsensical story stuff as long as it plays well because nonsensical story stuff is key to Batman.
Batmobile stealth wtf
But it isn't forced.
You can turn it off nor never use it, the game doesn't ever force you to.
Large, unmanned tanks that can only see from the front. You have to drive up behind them, hold position while you lock on, and shoot in their weak spot.
They're a lot of fun to fight, actually.
The Lamonster
Member
wow, you're right it does!I really like the tank segments actually. It feels like a modern day Battlezone.
CosmicGroinPull
Member
I would like it a lot better if they added a third mode to the Batmobile, one that locks down the wheels and makes it more like a racecar.
So:
1. Tank mode
2. All-terrain mode - the rubber suspension that we have now - good for driving up and over all sorts of shit; terrible for going around corners
3. Actual pursuit mode - no more rubber suspension - the wheels don't flex, so you can actually corner without its ass bouncing around
So:
1. Tank mode
2. All-terrain mode - the rubber suspension that we have now - good for driving up and over all sorts of shit; terrible for going around corners
3. Actual pursuit mode - no more rubber suspension - the wheels don't flex, so you can actually corner without its ass bouncing around
shiftplusone
Member
"the way the game plays" in borderlands 2 is a much worse mechanic for me
I hate the way the shooting works in both of those games and since the game is 100% of that, that is much worse than a car that is sometimes annoying
I hate the way the shooting works in both of those games and since the game is 100% of that, that is much worse than a car that is sometimes annoying
semiconscious
Member
what? you mean you seriously didn't miss getting to bomb tanks in all the other games?
...Rubbish. It fits this story perfectly. Batman's last stand, army overrun Gotham etc.
Besides, RS are now pretty much the authority in all things bats anyway. If they say it fits, it fits.
OP is crazy. I actually really like the feel and gameplay involved. It breaks up the game well.
shadowstar
Member
They're unmanned drones and it's made pretty clear quite often.
Which is pretty stupid, put a guy in it..now what the hell is Batman going to do? Arkham Knight is pretty stupid, for someone who's suppose to know Batman pretty well they suck.
shadowstar
Member
This is true of anything with Batman, not just this game. You could think of many ways to force Batman into a similar desperate position. However, it's super hero fiction in a video game, you can make up any solution or gameplay mechanic.
"Master Bruce, the new EMP device has been installed in the Batmobile, but in order to use it you must get close to the tanks and attach it to the power source behind the vehicle."
Visually its ridiculous, i'm not saying it doesn't make sense within the story. Visually its just ridiculous, Batman is a rich dude in a cape fighting crime (with his toolbelt and fists!), i never saw him as an armored mech inside a ridiculous sci-fi tank, shooting rockets at other tanks...
Closer Two
Member
I liked driving the Batmobile but doing everything else with it felt so tedious.
Joe Prodigy
Member
Batmobile ia awesome. I don't understand the negativity.
shadowstar
Member
Yep totally out of the question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUz38n-fvQ
https://youtu.be/drgAn-vbSZ8?t=1m4s