It feels like they wrapped really fast. Did they do any location shooting whatsoever?
Star Trek II was a great movie. It was thoughtful and moving -- everything Star Trek should be. It doesn't need to be rehashed with screen flare and extra battle scenes.
I loved the lens flares, I hope he keeps them.
Actually, Star Trek 2 is in need of a remake, the original has aged dramatically; so much that even it's story is no longer very effective (and very cheesy for today's standards).
However, I didn't want Khan because I want something different. It feels like a waste of a new universe just to reuse Khan.
Why do people keep thinking this is a semi remake of trek 2? That was about Khans revenge. Khan has nothing to get revenge for in this. If anything this will be a remake of Space Seed.
Why do people keep thinking this is a semi remake of trek 2? That was about Khans revenge. Khan has nothing to get revenge for in this. If anything this will be a remake of Space Seed.
It feels like they wrapped really fast. Did they do any location shooting whatsoever?
They have been shooting for quite a while.
Set pics and vids have been leaking for quite a bit.
It feels like they wrapped really fast. Did they do any location shooting whatsoever?
Actually, Star Trek 2 is in need of a remake, the original has aged dramatically; so much that even it's story is no longer very effective (and very cheesy for today's standards).
However, I didn't want Khan because I want something different. It feels like a waste of a new universe just to reuse Khan.
Khan is even a great sci-fi film, with the Genesis device. There are good movies set in the Star Trek universe that use its rules but don't really play to dramatic science fiction themes.Yeah, I think you're completely wrong on this one.
Nothing about the story has aged because its themes are timeless. It's about revenge and the notion of growing old and facing death head-on.
I would, however, like to know in what way this film is cheesy for today's standards.
First one I remember was at the end of February.
That wasn't even three months ago. Abrams is either really efficient, or there's a tonne of vfx-only shots.
Just hope the script doesn't suck this time...,
..., and less lens flare.
I find it quite interesting how because the studio doesn't know what the fuck to do with the franchise, they've pretty much left it all in the hands of the guys that made the 2009 film. Normally, given today's studio practices, a successful franchise film that groups together a decent charismatic cast, isn't allowed to sit for a few years doing nothing. I wish more studios thought themselves clueless enough to give some time to the talent involved instead of rushing out a sequel every other year.
I agree with Gene Siskel that Star Trek at its best is about high concepts and should not be just an action movie. So on that criteria...I don't know if the Abrams movie measures up. It's fun, but there's nothing in it that I would credit as a high concept.
Serious question. Was the first a good Star Trek movie? I enjoyed it but I'm not a Trekkie in the slightest, but as an action movie I thought it was pretty good.
http://trekmovie.com/2012/07/09/karl-urban-reveals-cumberbatch-star-trek-sequel-character/
Villain might be Gary Mitchell and not Khan. I'd like this more than them trying to redo Khan.
I am a big star trek fan. It was a miserable failure as a star trek movie. The people that made it don't know anything about star trek. I won't go into detail, but seeing a Nokia logo was like a kick to the stomach for a star trek fan.
It was an ok action movie, I enjoyed it in that respect.
Gary Mitchell sounds a LOT like the Dark Phoenix Saga from the X-Men. Teammate gets super powers, goes crazy, have to take him out on a deserted planet, everybody has a sad.
Gary Mitchell was already killed in Issue 2 of the comic. I'm sure they're just ignoring the comic right now, but Gary Mitchell already did his thing. it would be weird to say "Well, the comic never happened, fuck that shit, even though we've totally been collaborating with IDW to make it happen!"
Btw, anyone who doesn't like the frenetic pace of the movie, but has any interest in the new Trek universe paced like an old Trek episode, please do check out the IDW comic. It's awesome. (and as I said, Gary Mitchell is in Issue 2, and it's handled really well)
The comic doesn't count. Simple as that. This goes for those people who think the Doctor Who/Star trek event is canon as well.
The comic doesn't count. Simple as that. This goes for those people who think the Doctor Who/Star trek event is canon as well.
Of course it's not really in continuity, but you'd think Paramount/Abrams et al would've nixed using Gary Mitchell if they were actually planning on that for the movie.
Serious question. Was the first a good Star Trek movie? I enjoyed it but I'm not a Trekkie in the slightest, but as an action movie I thought it was pretty good.
Of course it's not really in continuity, but you'd think Paramount/Abrams et al would've nixed using Gary Mitchell if they were actually planning on that for the movie.
Serious question. Was the first a good Star Trek movie? I enjoyed it but I'm not a Trekkie in the slightest, but as an action movie I thought it was pretty good.
Serious question. Was the first a good Star Trek movie? I enjoyed it but I'm not a Trekkie in the slightest, but as an action movie I thought it was pretty good.
I'm a huge Trek fan. Although I liked Star Trek 2009 a lot, it is a different kind of movie than all of Star Trek before it. In comparison to all of Star Trek, then no, it is not a good Trek movie. But it is a good movie on it's own merits.
The Star Trek I grew up with, the Trek I love dearly, is dead. Paramount wants a more modern version to appeal to the short attention span crowd. Less intellectual, more action packed. That's okay, things change. Although it leaves me longing for something to come along and fill the gap of what true Star Trek had to offer. I just want a good intellectual space sci fi TV series to exist again. Maybe someday.
For a good example of what a good Trek movie is, watch either ST2: The Wrath of Khan, or ST8: First Contact.
For a good example of what a good Trek movie is, watch either ST2: The Wrath of Khan, or ST8: First Contact.
It was a modern action movie which meant characters CG fighting.
What? First Contact is fucking awful. That's the worst example of a good Trek movie.
First Contact is "Let's break the prime directive" the movie.
No that's Insurrection....Literally.
I'm a huge Trek fan. Although I liked Star Trek 2009 a lot, it is a different kind of movie than all of Star Trek before it. In comparison to all of Star Trek, then no, it is not a good Trek movie. But it is a good movie on it's own merits.
The Star Trek I grew up with, the Trek I love dearly, is dead. Paramount wants a more modern version to appeal to the short attention span crowd. Less intellectual, more action packed. That's okay, things change. Although it leaves me longing for something to come along and fill the gap of what true Star Trek had to offer. I just want a good intellectual space sci fi TV series to exist again. Maybe someday.
For a good example of what a good Trek movie is, watch either ST2: The Wrath of Khan, or ST8: First Contact.