GODDAMMIT!!!!!! There's never going to be a sequel. Why did I do this to myself? Whhhyyyyyyy?
This film gave me the same feeling that Dark Crystal did when I was 7, albeit somewhat muted because I'm now an old man and will likely not pray in a bed wishing a doorway would open up in my closet to sweep me away to Kira/Dejah's loving arms, but I had that sort of feeling.
Nevermind... That was the best, most gratifying flop that ever was and will ever will be unless anyone with an ounce of hindsight has the balls to pilot anything of this potential in the future.
At least Prince of Persia, which really sucked, will suffer the same fate.
Och Ohem, Ochtey, Wheis...GO PANTHERS!
Yeah, if we don't get anymore that is seriously going to suck. I'm ready to read the books as soon as I'm finished with A Dance with Dragons.
Watched the movie last night, just some observations.
- Chick who played Dejah Thoris is crazy beautiful in this movie. wow.
- Dont get the raving about Giachinno's score. It was good but it wasn't Speed Racer or even Star Trek good IMO. Maybe I should listen to it on its again though.
- Its overall an entertaining adventure but the narrative and how its delivered is definitely undercooked.
- Thought the Tharks looked laughable originally, but they work in the movie (though oddly the first ever finished revealed Thark footage from the original trailer is a deleted scene). As a matter of fact I enjoyed all the characters really. Woola!
- John Carters vs The thern's Tharks. Dat Genocide!
Other than that, yeah I enjoyed it, but the one thing I wish the movie did was spend more time on actually establishing Barsoom and better showcasing the worldview, and more time spent on developing Dejah Thoris and John Carter together.
For me it's easily the best score he's done since Ratatouille.
Also can't believe they never released Dejah's theme on the OST.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWb6K6ZZAbw
Watched this today and was really impressed. I was actually a bit ticked off at the end because if it did badly in theaters that means no sequel.
You didn't like the ending? Going in and knowing there wasn't going to be a sequel, I was extremely content with the way they ended it. He went back to Dejah. In the books, a a lot of other stuff happens and things get hairy, but they ended it on a good note for the movie. It's certainly better than the sequel bait shit in Battleship. But fuck that movie anyway.
I watched this on rental from Netflix last night. It was ok, but I lost interest a little bit into the movie and picked up a bit later in. Their are some issues with pacing but overall it was a solid 3/5 for me. I would watch a sequel if they make one. The action was decent and all, but I didn't find myself actually caring for many of the characters I was supposed to care for, especially John Carter since he was only a copy of the John Carter on Earth. When they put that plot device into the story I just went back on my other experience with Sci-Fi where other copies don't retain the memories of the originals and vice versa and I didn't care as much anymore. I know the earth John Carter can remember the events that happened to the Mars John Carter in this story but it's still a bit disconnected from other clone stories we've had over the years. It is interesting that John Carter would choose the life of his clone over the one he had on earth, but I guess that is the point of it all.
No, I liked it. It had some finality. I just want more of it. I'd of liked it more if there was a reunion scene. 10 years is a long time.
Yeah that goes back to my main complaint. The movie doesn't do enough establishing of all the quirks of the books worldview. The movie would have definitely benefit from being a bit longer IMO, 140-150 minutes. This type of story calls for it.His consciousness is transferred between the two bodies. That's why he couldn't let the Therns kill the body on Earth. They weren't clones so much as just duplicate vessels. It's expanded upon a lot more in the books. I sort of wish they had just left it out because it brings up confusion and unneeded explanation.
The one thing I wish they played up more was how he was a man that had nothing more to live for on Earth and had an attachment to Mars because he had a purpose there. They seemed to really gloss over that and it sort of felt like he married Dejah just because that's what the story called for.
Yup, Sculli and others that liked the movie were obviously paid off by Disney because YOU didn't like it. *sigh*
Yup, Sculli and others that liked the movie were obviously paid off by Disney because YOU didn't like it. *sigh*
His consciousness is transferred between the two bodies. That's why he couldn't let the Therns kill the body on Earth. They weren't clones so much as just duplicate vessels. It's expanded upon a lot more in the books. I sort of wish they had just left it out because it brings up confusion and unneeded explanation.
The one thing I wish they played up more was how he was a man that had nothing more to live for on Earth and had an attachment to Mars because he had a purpose there. They seemed to really gloss over that and it sort of felt like he married Dejah just because that's what the story called for.
My only problem with the movie was how inconsistent his powers seemed. Was he super strong or not? He would go from kicking ass to getting his ass kicked pretty randomly.
Where in my post did I call out others?, your just putting words in my mouth
I called out Sculli due to him beating the drums through the the weekend box office threads going JC is a must see, you won't regret it, it's awesome, /shill
I never called out anyone else
So I didn't like it, others did, cool for them, nothing wrong with that
When one person goes overboard and you call them on their shit, I somehow said that to everyone that liked the movie that they are shills, good job man
That was pretty much how I felt as a sci-fi fan who was experiencing the story for the first time through the movie. Experience with various sci-fi tells us that clones don't retain the memories of the original past the point when they were cloned and vice-versa, so it kind of killed it a bit for me when it was revealed that he was a copy on Mars. Then they showed through the last earth portion of the story that conscious was shared, but by that time I was thinking why should this John Carter care about the other? They never really crossed that path though and went on though as it was a shared consciousness and it shouldn't be explained like the entire audience should catch on.
My only problem with the movie was how inconsistent his powers seemed. Was he super strong or not? He would go from kicking ass to getting his ass kicked pretty randomly.
It's one of those aspects they left in because they were hoping this would be a franchise and it's explained more thoroughly in the later books. The source material was also written long before cloning was even thought of. But it would have been as simple as omitting that throwaway line in the temple and writing around the two body scenario.
Watched the movie last night, just some observations.
- Chick who played Dejah Thoris is crazy beautiful in this movie. wow.
- Dont get the raving about Giachinno's score. It was good but it wasn't Speed Racer or even Star Trek good IMO. Maybe I should listen to it on its again though.
- Its overall an entertaining adventure but the narrative and how its delivered is definitely undercooked.
- Thought the Tharks looked laughable originally, but they work in the movie (though oddly the first ever finished revealed Thark footage from the original trailer is a deleted scene). As a matter of fact I enjoyed all the characters really. Woola!
- John Carters vs The thern's Tharks. Dat Genocide!
Other than that, yeah I enjoyed it, but the one thing I wish the movie did was spend more time on actually establishing Barsoom and better showcasing the worldview, and more time spent on developing Dejah Thoris and John Carter together.
should i rent this for 5 dollars?
post about john carter.
Are there deleted scenes on the DVD? Perhaps an explanation of where the reshoots may have gone?