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Joystiq: PC versions of Dark Souls, Red Faction: Guerrilla and more removing GFWL
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Infinite Justice
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Not sure about Bioshock but Arkham doesn't work unless you use a hex editor
brotkasten
Member
I suppose the game is still moving a couple of units, especially on sales and keeping GFWL would kill that little cash flow that comes from the game.
Dark Souls does consistently well on the PC from what I can gather and them removing GFWL/going to Steamworks will make it a consistent seller in the future for a long time I'd think (i could be wrong!)
Conservatively, Dark Souls has sold almost one million copies on PC so far. Not only that, but continues to generate quite a bit of revenue during sales.
Namco not only wants to continue this success, but open up to a wider audience that was not able to purchase GFWL games previously or refused to.
No, you will be able to play them in offline mode.
Worst case scenario, you will have to apply a crack.
It'll also likely make patching less of a pain, so they could maybe implement a built in resolution fix even if FPS gets left alone.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Is there an ETA on this? I might start Dark Souls after it gets removed.
Not officially, but I imagine it'll happen some time between now and July 1st. The smart thing would have been to release the Steamworks patch coincident with Dark Souls 2 being made available for pre-order, but for reasons known only to Scamco it decided to focus on Ace Combat instead.
CountAntonius
Member
It would be such a perfect time to fix dark souls right now so i can get some actual pvp in before 2 comes out. Sometimes I will only get a fight once every 15 minutes.
ashecitism
Member
Source? Last I recall it was around 300k.
My own estimates. The 300k number came in early 2013, ~6 months after the game initially released.
At the very least it is around >750k total sales.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
They will kill the P2P and remove GFWL... problem solved
. Seriously not sure it matters, p2p killed this game multiplayer, rarely saw anyone playing on both consoles and pc.Thank you.
Are there any drawbacks other then no multiplayer,like for example saves or something?
Sorry but I am new to GFWL.
I wish you never had to encounter this particular piece of DRM.
Your saves will be fine, you should always keep a backup anyway as GFWL has been known to eat saves.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
If they do not update Dark Souls 1 then it would cause people to worry if Dark Souls 2 will be up to snuff.
Is that gonna work, though?
Im trying to get through it the first time!
I'd appreciate a step-by-step on how to transfer my DS file as well. I'm in NG+++ but I'd still like to keep everything in tact.
Guess people better work on getting those achievements if they want them.
Sentenza
Member
Given how the game keeps selling well enough to top Steam charts every time it gets a discount, it would be quite idiotic to ignore the chance to generate more long-tail sales in the years to come, especially considered that the price to pay (a couple of coders working on it for few weeks?) would be trivial compared to the potential revenues.
Stealth_Cobra
Member
As long as they don't destroy my Dark Souls Savegames...
Sentenza
Member
There are good chances it will happen, actually.
Unless some sort of recovery tool comes out, like happened for Arkham City.
And I don't even mind, actually. I would gladly take the whole thing (no more saves, new achievements, etc) as a good excuse to play the game all over again.
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Funny enough I lost saves on my PC only two times and it was GFWL in both cases.
Even though I always make backups of my saves,but GFWL games must store their saves in some weird locations,at least Test Drive Ferrari Legends.
jim-jam bongs
Member
I really want this to happen soon, my Dark Souls itch is getting uncomfortable and the cream my doctor gave me does nothing
I'm keeping my DkS saves backed up with GameSave Manager on secondary local location and in dropbox.
So best case, I'll just have them. If they won't work, some enterprising modder will hopefully write a little tool to fix them. Or they just won't work and we are all screwed.
But I also actually wouldn't mind, I would start a fresh game either way. And then try and hold with both hands.
Since From did the DkS PC version themselves, I wonder if they would farm out the conversion to someone else.
What Bamco should do is just give that job to QLOC as well, and while they are at it they should just fix the biggest technical limitations with the game as a little bonus.
So best case, I'll just have them. If they won't work, some enterprising modder will hopefully write a little tool to fix them. Or they just won't work and we are all screwed.
But I also actually wouldn't mind, I would start a fresh game either way. And then try and hold with both hands.
Just a guess, but if they got QLOC to do Ace Combat conversion, I imagine they have the experience needed from both G4WL and Steamworks to make that conversion relatively painless.
Since From did the DkS PC version themselves, I wonder if they would farm out the conversion to someone else.
What Bamco should do is just give that job to QLOC as well, and while they are at it they should just fix the biggest technical limitations with the game as a little bonus.
I have them backed up as well, but I will probably just start fresh with a new character. Get a GAF group together for the weapon achievements.
GFWL encrypts it's save's so they're going to be destroyed no matter what.
Have you installed DSFix? I remember Durante saying that it actually helps with performance.
Yeah, I have. I've even messed with the settings in every possible way and the framerate is still terrible. My laptop isn't made for gaming but I feel like it should still be able to get close to 30fps at the lowest settings. Even though it's unlikely, I'm kinda wondering if Dark Souls 2 would run better since they're saying it's more optimized.
I really wish that there was just a universal patch on Microsoft's end that would convert all the GFWL stuff to Steamworks, instead of leaving everything up to individual developers to patch it out.
I mean for me it's mostly just down to Capcom potentially deciding to be a bunch of lazy dirtbags who wouldn't bother since the games were never mega-hits, but I'd be seriously bummed out if I could never play Lost Planet 2 co-op again, or if I never got to introduce another group of people to the insane goodness of Lost Planet (1) Colonies and its Akrid Hunt multiplayer mode. And there are probably a few other obscure/cult games out there that are just going to die forever because there's no real RoI on bothering to fix them.
Edit: Also, part of GFWL seems to be a check that's in place specifically to stop you from using a virtual LAN/tunneler to play LAN mode over the Internet. If I recall correctly, the games just refuse to connect if your ping goes over 20ms or some ridiculous number that's only realistically possible on an actual LAN. I think there's some dodgy looking software with a DLL injector that's supposed to get around that, but I don't think it's particularly reliable, not to mention being a huge pain in the ass to begin with.
I mean for me it's mostly just down to Capcom potentially deciding to be a bunch of lazy dirtbags who wouldn't bother since the games were never mega-hits, but I'd be seriously bummed out if I could never play Lost Planet 2 co-op again, or if I never got to introduce another group of people to the insane goodness of Lost Planet (1) Colonies and its Akrid Hunt multiplayer mode. And there are probably a few other obscure/cult games out there that are just going to die forever because there's no real RoI on bothering to fix them.
Edit: Also, part of GFWL seems to be a check that's in place specifically to stop you from using a virtual LAN/tunneler to play LAN mode over the Internet. If I recall correctly, the games just refuse to connect if your ping goes over 20ms or some ridiculous number that's only realistically possible on an actual LAN. I think there's some dodgy looking software with a DLL injector that's supposed to get around that, but I don't think it's particularly reliable, not to mention being a huge pain in the ass to begin with.
I guess I need to start looking if I'm going to be able to continue to play Viva Pinata
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Did Arkham games lose their save games when they converted to Steam?
Prophet Steve
Member
It is pretty embarrassing that Microsoft still has not done anything about the games they have published.
Slackbladder
Member
So, any chance GTAIV will be patched? It's a serious question....really!.....stop laughing!
I guess I need to start looking if I'm going to be able to continue to play Viva Pinata
VP can be played in offline mode just fine.
Yes, but an intrepid modder fixed the issue.
They weren't ever lost, just not compatible initially.
Sentenza
Member
I think it will happen. As for Dark Souls, this is another game which would eventually sell for years if they patch it.
There's no use in letting it just die and fade out from digital stores; it would be leaving money on the table.
It's also worth noting that Rockstar is one of these very few companies that bothered releasing *several* patches on the same title on GFWL, despise the fact they had to pay Microsoft for it.
Canis lupus
Member
Did Dark Souls remove GFWL yet? I have played that game only 1 once due to no save function, never touched it again.
Not yet, but Scamco adding the community stats flag to the game's Steam registry listing may suggest that it is setting such plans in motion.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Any updates on RFG ? I need a reason to go back and play it again
Dictator93
Member
They should update Dx10 while they are at it... it currently does not work at all without massive graphical problems. ha
jim-jam bongs
Member
Every time this thread gets bumped by a post containing no news, a kitten dies.
STOP KILLING KITTENS
STOP KILLING KITTENS
Wolf Akela
Member
What does the flag even mean?
Is there a wiki listing the meanings of all steamdb flags?
Is there a wiki listing the meanings of all steamdb flags?
What problems are you talking about? I can remember that played RFG two months ago and the game showed a lot of artifacts but after a while I can fix all of them.
If I remember correctly:
-Massive flickering like 3D stereo was activated that was fixed with a custom SLI profile in DX10.
-Lots of elements dissapear in the game when moving the camera. Was fixed unisntalling a windows update patch (KB2670838).
We will probably be waiting a little while, these things take time.
Ace Combat Assault Horizon is now steamworks. Am I late to the party, or is this new?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/228400/?snr=1_620_4__45
http://store.steampowered.com/app/228400/?snr=1_620_4__45
DodgyGeezerFella
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Not sure if this is common knowledge now or was unknown, but Dawn of War II is definitely getting GFWL removed by the looks of it (from Steam store page) -
