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Just Cause 3 screenshots Leaked [Update: New microtransaction hell screenshots]
- Thread starter Mistah
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How so?
RumblingRosco
Member
Yes, I see that now. I certainly won't be buying JC3 day one and depending on if DLC or whatever they want to call it is included en masse I won't ever touch it. I'll stick to JC2.
CambriaRising
Member
Maybe this little gem:
I'm here to tell you, no it is not and anyone who thinks that way will get no money from me.
scoobidoo112
Member
No it doesn't make sense. What makes sense is that you allow your franchise to find an audience and grow over time, and then you reach out to that audience with a sequel, which is bigger, better and provides more of what made the previous game great.
Just Cause 3 could have been just that. The second game had extremely positive word of mouth and plenty of people invested in the game and the DLC during sales. Then there was the JC2 multiplayer mod that reignited interest in the game and hype for JC3 was through the roof.
That JC2 did well in steam sales does not, in any way, justify them making a sequel that does the exact same thing as JC2, only with monetary requirements shoved in at every step of the way. Want a car? Money! Want a boat? Money! Want a chopper? Money! Want a gun? Money! It destroys everyone's interest in the game for good reason. They found a killer game concept in JC2 and for the sequel they apparently decided to put a hacksaw to everything that made it fun, cuz $$$
Maybe this little gem:
I'm here to tell you, no it is not and anyone who thinks that way will get no money from me.
...
How does that make him a cocky asshole?
CambriaRising
Member
"It is that simple" shuts down discussion and ignores reality, that's a pretty cocky and assholic thing to do.
3rdamention
Member
I will not spend one dime on this game! Nothing! This is ridiculous.
So they are working on 2 games at once eh.. must be a lot of people there.
Mad Max looks good though.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Sleeping Dogs
Just Cause
See ya next time, Deus Ex.
Just Cause
See ya next time, Deus Ex.
AgentLampshade
Member
If its pay-for-vehicles then that's cool. I just parachuted everywhre anyway, but Christopher Sundbergs "go fuck yourself" attitude makes me really want to avoid this game at all costs. Fuck people like that.
Hilarious that the rent price is 3/4 of the buy price.
Fuuuuuck you reminded me about Deus Ex. JC2 was awesome but Deux Ex is the one I really care about... and they're going to fuck it up with this pay-to-pay crap too.
Fuuuuuck you reminded me about Deus Ex. JC2 was awesome but Deux Ex is the one I really care about... and they're going to fuck it up with this pay-to-pay crap too.
Valve is going F2P. Blizzard is going F2P, and their biggest moneymaker over the last decade has been subscription. EA is having (regrettably) great success with EA Access, and like every other major publisher, is looking for its own F2P hit. I'd venture to say that at least eight out of the ten most financially successful games in the last three years have been something other than the standard "$60 up front" model.
It may shut down discussion, but it isn't ignoring reality, and I don't even know if you need to have a discussion about it given the facts of how the marketplace has been trending. I'm not sure if voicing an opinion about a near-assured issue makes you a cocky asshole.
that game is under WB control.
Square Enix western side is going f2p and paymium(or whatever it is called) heavily.
But this isn't F2P. It's bullshit F2P grinds and microtransactions in a $60 PAID game. That's the huge fuckin difference.
And if this is the "future he envisioned" where gamers pay $60 and then also pay microtransactions on top, that makes him an asshole.
Oh, okay, I didn't realize we had a clear description of the effect of microtransactions in this game, its payment model, or even its retail price. I thought all we had were a bunch of unintentionally leaked screenshots that were causing a bunch of uninformed kneejerk reactions.
But it's not Avalanche who is making Mad Max?
...if you think someone leaked screenshots of the game's payment and currency structure unintentionally, I have a bridge to sell you.
Clearly whoever is leaking this is not happy with the direction that the game is going, and wanted to drum up support somehow.
ALL microtransactions for an in-game currency are bad in a $60 game. It doesn't matter what context the screenshots are in. Obviously you are ok with this industry direction, but I for one find it completely counter to what I want in a game to have developers giving paid options to fund yourself with in-game currency. It's bullshit after spending $60 FULL STOP.
Like BigDug13 says, its for (what I presume) will be a full price title you have to first buy upfront. Doesn't matter at that point how the market is, he comes out as a cocky asshole for planning on exploiting people in that matter.
valkillmore
Member
I have never understood the appeal of this series. Tried JC2 and did not enjoy the experience. I had been excited about the idea of a new JC on new gen but what the actual fuck.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
Doesnt look too good..
UtterlyPerplexed
Member
Do we know if this will even be a $60 title? It's just that Shinobi has hinted at something about this game not coming out in a conventional way - perhaps it will come out in segments, and that triggered an even bigger alarm bell for me, because theoretically there's no real limit on how much Avalanche and Square would want you to pay to get the "full" experience, or as close to as possible.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Wow. Rest in peace Just Cause. Shame too. the first 2 were damn fun. I won't be touching this one with a 10 foot pole though now.
CrunchyFrog
Member
It used to be something else but bish is a fuddy duddy
Companies let stuff "leak" nowadays without official PR all the time. That isn't what this is, and focusing on that just ignores the thrust of what I was saying.
Why are you putting words in my mouth? All I'm saying is that without any other information, there's no basis for freaking out. You don't know if the game will be $60 or F2P.
If you're just fundamentally against F2P, well, that's your own problem. It's 2014 and a ton of games have shown the model is more than capable of delivering an amazing experience.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Wow, I was on board until I spotted the telltale sign of microtransactions.
The season pass shit is already obnoxious enough.
Same, I will quit gaming if everything becomes microtransaction and subscription or "freemium" based.
The season pass shit is already obnoxious enough.
Maybe this little gem:
I'm here to tell you, no it is not and anyone who thinks that way will get no money from me.
Same, I will quit gaming if everything becomes microtransaction and subscription or "freemium" based.
I was talking about the tweet recently. Very condescending.
it is developed by Avalanche. but they are just developers and do what the publishers ask them to do, Avalanche just can't call the shots and do this on their own as you know. WB most likely not want this sort of microtransaction-fest in Mad Max (unlike SE which is deep into that the f2p/paymium lake)
Living Proof
Member
I've been following the general flow of discussion here with an open mind, but if you think that these images were just randomly leaked without purpose, well... think again. Whoever was behind this leak likely had a variety of images to share with the world; they chose the ones they did for a reason.
Edit: beaten, I guess
I don't think he's implying it was the company's intention to leak these particular screens, but perhaps a disgruntled employee acting on his own who doesn't agree with the business model the game he is working on appears to be following.
Like Destiny? Lets face it, 60 bucks have been an entrance price for a while. Not defending anything, just observing that this is getting more and more common that 60 bucks is just the start.
Give me more money cause reasons.
Living Proof
Member
Yep. I don't understand how this could be misconstrued whatsoever.
blankempathy
Member
Kinda funny how much just cause 2 gets love from the community with fan and mod support. Even modding in multiplayer support. Yet here they are with corporate greed spitting in the face of their long time fans. How much ill will can these companies create? Its sad to watch my favorite hobby of 26 years turn into this.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
I just saw this while watching the new South Park episode. It made the episode better, but it does little to assuage my disappointment with what had the potential to be a great game.
Oh well, fuck em.
Oh well, fuck em.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
This and Triad Wars confirms we'll never get a true sequel to Sleeping Dogs.
PiPSmallie
Member
Funny how CD Projekt Red have just announced free dlc for the Witcher 3, available no matter when you purchase the game. Something we rarely see now and this just seems to be the total parallel of that way of thinking. Taking your audience and trying to bleed as much money as you can from them, this really is sad Just Cause 2 is a ton of fun. How can the same developer stray so far off from their previous efforts
scoobidoo112
Member
The Shogun
Banned
SE took two open world franchises with huge potential and turned both into F2P micro transaction bull shit. I'm sorry but I can't support this at all. It would be one thing if these were spin offs only and real sequels were in the works, but to completely destroy these franchises like this?
I basically never want a title to fail as it hurts the industry and people working on the game but if these end up as huge success stories......I worry a lot about the future.
I basically never want a title to fail as it hurts the industry and people working on the game but if these end up as huge success stories......I worry a lot about the future.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Squeenix: 1 step forward, 10 back.
Me too, I hope this fucking bombs.