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Just had my neighbor try to knock down my door and threaten to kill me
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Cool, another person that has absolutely no counter to my points. Good job!
EatinOlives
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Keep saying that to yourself. The reality is that plenty of people have made plenty of counter arguments.
Of course, gun-touting GAF would never actually realize this. Talking to people like you is like arguing with a post. You've already convinced yourself you've "won" this thread, why not just leave the thread alone so it can get back on topic?
Account Attempt #4
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Thanks you based god for these last couple of pages 
(100pp fo lyfe!) and also that you're safe, Reggie. Damn, what an ordeal.
(100pp fo lyfe!) and also that you're safe, Reggie. Damn, what an ordeal.Anticitizen One
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..................There is now a much bigger problem in this thread
Baconsaurus Rex
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Hooooly shiiiit! The mental image of your mom, as Betty White, chasing some kids with a baseball bat was quite awesome.
Where? I hear a lot of shit coming out of your mouth, but nothing to back it up with.
EatinOlives
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Man, you're a golden little one.
Deified Data
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That's how all of GAF is. Have you ever actually changed someone's mind in a debate? Humans are hard-wired to ignore points that contradict their worldviews.
Air Zombie Meat
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To quote Charlie Brooker, there's no point debating anything online. You might as well hurl shoes in the air to knock clouds from the sky.
Doctor West
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What the fuck has happened to this thread?!?
Yeah that's what I thought. All talk, no substance. Come back when you want to have an actual discussion.
Nobody has even tried to change my mind or tell me where I'm wrong beyond "lol guns America!"
Deified Data
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lol, my thoughts when I clicked on it after a couple days. "What could they still have to talk about? Is the issue still on-going?"
Nope. GAF being GAF.
EatinOlives
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Most everything that was worth saying has already been said, so merely repeating anyone else's posts is just going in circles and adding nothing new. Considering your only real purpose here is to act like an internet tough guy, I doubt something like that would actually bother you.
Also, I had to chuckle at "discussion". You call what you're doing a "discussion", wowee.
Doctor West
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There is some serious roid rage going on here, it's hilarious. I love all the people who think they would just beat the shit out of the guy like it's no big deal. First of all, that dude is most likely drugged out of his damn mind. We also have no idea what he looks like, he could be a beast for all we know.
But still... "What a puss, bro. Just open the door and crush that crazy piece of shit. Guuuuuuuuuns."
The reality is you probably came into this thread without reading the rest of it, saw my recent post and decided to make a "lol guns" comment, and don't have the first clue what other people said in response to me. If you want to highlight something someone, anyone, actually said that refuted my point, then by all means I'm waiting.
Ok, sweet, gun debate refuses to quit.
The idea that you can be a safe and responsible gun owner is absolutely correct. Most people aren't though. And regardless of how safe a small portion of gun owners are at handling guns, their guns are more likely to be stolen and used by criminals than used. So yeah, some people handle guns perfectly correctly, and I can sort of understand their selfish need to have a gun, but it's sort of a "this is why we can't have nice things" type of deal. Guns are a net negative on society, even if on a personal level some people are responsible with them, and the extremely unlikely event that something like this happens (well something like this but worse, where the criminal actually breaks into the home).
Now, there may or may not be some merit to the idea that with guns being so prevalent here in the US, a ban on guns would leave only the criminals in power. But telling Australians they should have guns in their country is idiotic, IMO. The Australians in this thread agree.
The idea that you can be a safe and responsible gun owner is absolutely correct. Most people aren't though. And regardless of how safe a small portion of gun owners are at handling guns, their guns are more likely to be stolen and used by criminals than used. So yeah, some people handle guns perfectly correctly, and I can sort of understand their selfish need to have a gun, but it's sort of a "this is why we can't have nice things" type of deal. Guns are a net negative on society, even if on a personal level some people are responsible with them, and the extremely unlikely event that something like this happens (well something like this but worse, where the criminal actually breaks into the home).
Now, there may or may not be some merit to the idea that with guns being so prevalent here in the US, a ban on guns would leave only the criminals in power. But telling Australians they should have guns in their country is idiotic, IMO. The Australians in this thread agree.
WordAssassin
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For one glorious page this thread got so awesome and overcame the gun shit and we had Horse Fest and then it just disintegrated back into the bullshit.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Aren't the percentages of people injured by guns pretty low compared to the number of owners? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not sure that safe owners are the minority like your post kind of makes it sound.
My guns are also kept in a big ass safe and my place has alarms on the doors and windows. So I'm not too worried about anyone breaking in and taking my guns. That's anectdotal, I realize. But, all I can do is make sure my shit is safe and secure. I also don't own guns for home defense and shudder at the thought of ever having to use them for that purpose. And I also understand people who don't want them around at all, obviously, they're dangerous. I think guns are way too easy to get in the US, that's for sure. But, I wouldn't be happy if it was suddenly flat out illegal for me to go shoot a delicious deer.
My two cents. Not that it matters.
EatinOlives
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I've actually read this thread since before this gun crap came in. Hell, my first "lol guns" comment was several pages back, not with yours.
Quite a few people in the topic responded with this, which is what I agree with. The first one directly in response to yours:
And, that's it, really. I'm not actively involved in the, uh, "discussion", because pretty much everyone else is saying exactly what I would say. Not sure what parroting the same thing would add to it. But I just had to point out that last thing a few posts back, because this whole discussion is silly when we're talking about a man in Australia who wouldn't even be able to get to the gun in the first place. Your response was "YEAH WELL MAYBE THE REST OF THE WORLD SHOULD CHANGE THEIR LAWS TOO, THAT'S SAFER".
No, it really wouldn't be, it's not even close to being a feasible solution, and it doesn't change the fact that this issue is in Australia, so having random arguments about gun rights in a topic about AUSTRALIA is completely pointless and is really only about furthering what you think of guns which, in case you haven't noticed, has nothing to do with the topic.
It's funny because he's actually correct. No one has even tried to respond to his question. They just keep mocking him and shit.
I'd also like to know how you'd defend yourself. I have a huge machete, and that's my plan. Not that I like that plan; I'd much rather have a shotgun, but for now it's all I've got. Anybody that actually has some training/experience? I'm fucked. I have no delusions about this. I'd trade some psycho's life for mine any day, so I'm curious to know why you guys wouldn't want a gun to protect yourselves regardless of whether the bozo at the door has one.
I'd also like to know how you'd defend yourself. I have a huge machete, and that's my plan. Not that I like that plan; I'd much rather have a shotgun, but for now it's all I've got. Anybody that actually has some training/experience? I'm fucked. I have no delusions about this. I'd trade some psycho's life for mine any day, so I'm curious to know why you guys wouldn't want a gun to protect yourselves regardless of whether the bozo at the door has one.
Keep the blade a bucket of kerosene next to your bedside along with a lighter. Pull machete out, light blade on fire and charge assailant screaming SPAAAARTA
That just gets you kicked in your chest man.
shanshan310
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Go read up on Australian history. We did have similar gun laws to the US, some guy went on a huge shooting spree in Tasmania (the largest ever by a single person if I'm not mistaken). We realised it was insane that it was so easy for this guy to get hold of a weapon, and the government did a massive buy back. Its still possible to get a weapon, but not many do. I personally don't know anyone who owns a weapon. You need a damn good reason to own one ("self defence" isn't one of them), and the type you can own is very limited.
That and i'm only reading pro gun owners saying if he had a gun he could protect himself. In reality though what is more likely, the op would have a gun to protect himself or with no anti-gun laws this psychopath actually being able to own a gun therefore being able to shoot through the door and kill the op.
I like the horse pics better though, nothing is more cyclical then gun and tipping debates on forums.
And lets say the OP and the nutter both have guns.
Where is OP's gun more likely to be when the nutjob uses his own gun to shoot the lock out and burst in?
Is it in the gunsafe where it should be? Or is he sitting on the couch with it tucked into his boxers while he necks VBs?
Gun on gun violence just doesn't seem as natural or logical to Australians as it does to Americans.
Where is OP's gun more likely to be when the nutjob uses his own gun to shoot the lock out and burst in?
Is it in the gunsafe where it should be? Or is he sitting on the couch with it tucked into his boxers while he necks VBs?
Gun on gun violence just doesn't seem as natural or logical to Australians as it does to Americans.
A small portion of gun owners practice safe handling? Oh you Australians. Not all Americans are gun touting hillbillies riding in the back of a pickup truck. About 95% of gun owners are responsible owners. The other 5% are your criminals and psychopaths. Yeah you'll get an accidentally discharge over a firearm when someone is handling their firearm carelessly, but in that same essence. I was in the ER when someone's car crushed him because he improperly placed the car jacks. Should working on your car be banned? Paring knives are sharp and smal, they can easily be used to stab someone, lets ban those too.
Who said that?
reptilescorpio
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Enough with the gun debate, it isn't relative to the situation. Reggie lives in Australia. He is being harassed by someone with a mental problem and/or a drug problem.
There is no need to bring up 'what if' imaginary situations involving guns when that ISN'T the situation for him.
Apparently you should have cat like reflexes so when someone smashes down your door and fires a gun at you time stops and you do flips and shit to your gun cabinet, punching in the code in 3 nanoseconds and filling that baddie with lead as you finish your cartwheel.
There is no need to bring up 'what if' imaginary situations involving guns when that ISN'T the situation for him.
Apparently you should have cat like reflexes so when someone smashes down your door and fires a gun at you time stops and you do flips and shit to your gun cabinet, punching in the code in 3 nanoseconds and filling that baddie with lead as you finish your cartwheel.
"Enough with the gun debate!"
"There is no need to bring up 'what if' imaginary situations."
*Proceeds to continue the gun debate with a 'what if' scenario*
thesoapster
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reptilescorpio
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I edited the formatting to make it so Fusebox didn't think I was making fun of him which kinda ruined the post. Ah well!
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
Reggie has now been added to my 2012 dead pool.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Damn it! I haven't played it in forever. It's only ten bucks on origin right now, going to pick it up when I get home this weekend.
Yes, the nerdy guy who was airborne infantry before he stated being a nerd and pathetic apparently, yes.
Hardened criminal? Do you think that means their skulls are harder or something? What do you expect this 'hardened criminal' to be armed with?
And the question has everything to do with geography. You need to plan to an appropriate threat level, otherwise everyone has miniguns in turrets linked to thermal cameras. If I live in Brazil, I will plan differently than if I live in Canada, or the US, and if I lived in Uganda, I would plan differently again. It's not hard to understand. It's easy to say 'My plan is to have a gun'. That's nice. You better have a plan for if that is not possible though. You don't always get what you want. Yeah, people can lobby to change laws, but you also have to plan within the laws you have. So grow up, and stop acting like your plan in perfect and the only sensible course.
Actually, reading your replies to other people, you are an offensive little twerp. You level of discourse is childish at best. Even if you don't think they re offering substantive replies, ask them questions directly instead of insulting them. That just indicates you aren't interested in discussion either.
You really missed my point. Guns do not equal violence, but if they are not present in a situation, adding them generally only does bad things. They don't cause violence, but they make the effects of it a lot more serious. If you don't need one, you don't need one. That said, I am a fan of shooting, and understand why in America you would own a gun for a variety of reasons. In Australia, I have none of those reasons other than it being fun, which is not enough to go through all the paperwork it takes over here. I already said a buyback wouldn't work, why do reply like that is a criticism of what I said?
I also said I was not directly replying to you alone, I was addressing everyone who was making universal statements about the value of guns in self defence, on both side of the argument.
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Mastering karate, then there is nobody you can lose a fight to.... well, except other karate masters, but we all know to use our karate powers for good, not evil.
.................I'm going to find your house and bang on your door like a Macedonian King holding a copy of the original Star Wars Trilogy and force you to watch it again.
I see what you did there.
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