Nemesis121
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Seems like another terrible villain, ehh....
Steppenwolf isn't here to talk and share his personal feelings, he's here to fucking conquer Earth, he's going to be your typical MCU shit villain...
Seems like another terrible villain, ehh....
Not a single part of the incredible hulk is mentioned in the Avengers or future MCU films or how the ending transitions to the avengers that isn't already a part of the generic hulk mythos. The film may as well not exist.
I really don't understand why people keep insisting on the Marvel universe way.
They only made the choices they did was because the characters they wanted to push don't have any recognition in the public. 90% of the cast of Infinity War are only recently introduced to the mainstream audience, while DC has had decades of establishing their roster. Batman and Superman have decades of movies people cherish, they have the animated JL, Bats, and Supes series. You have Smallville and the CW shows, and the recent films as well. The only people in the JL who are probably in most need of attention are Aquaman and Green Lantern.
Steppenwolf isn't here to talk and share his personal feelings, he's here to fucking conquer Earth, he's going to be your typical MCU shit villain...
Banner mentions his Harlem fight in the Avengers and you of course have Thunderbolt Ross being a presence in Civil War.
Makes sense then, forgot about Ross after all these and the harlem reference I didn't catch.
Steppenwolf isn't here to talk and share his personal feelings, he's here to fucking conquer Earth, he's going to be your typical MCU shit villain...
I'm shocked they would teaseat the end like that.cyborg Richard Nixon
That pic of Gal with the kid making the rounds on twitter is very endearing.
One thing is that, and I had this issue in BVS, that half the talk about how 'the' Superman is about how he inspires hope and makes people see the best in themselves.
But, did he? Like, that was not a superman that I was in any way inspired by and ultimately only actually did a handful of things, most of which he seemed to feel people didn't appreciate enough to the point where his Mom just goes on about how he doesn't own people shit.
It feels like they're talking about a superman that they didn't have in this universe.
Seeing pictures like this makes me appreciate the new Wonder Woman more. It's really touching.
Superman.Seeing pictures like this makes me appreciate the new Wonder Woman more. It's really touching.
But what I came here to ask, who is Jeremy Irons talking to at the end of the sneak peek? Or we don't know yet?
Oh, I thought it was supposed to be something new since they seemed to only want to tease it. Why are they making such a big deal of character and actor portraying him when he has been seen 3 times already?Superman.
The action just looks garbage again. Why does it always boil down to the amount of destruction? Buildings falling, crashing down, people smashing through them. You can dial action up to 11 and the cgi down to minimum and it can have a much stronger impact.
You don't need world ending villians right from the start.
It's not a W. On my island it means hope.
Imagine if all of Cavill's scenes were flashbacks and it really is Supergirl who's going to join the fight at the end.It could be Supergirl. The legs look a little bit thin for Superman in that Hologram that Bruce is looking at.
I think he's just looking at a hologram of Superman
Is that Supergirl?!
Superman.
Didn't realize Superman made the floor shake when he walks.
Didn't realize Superman made the floor shake when he walks.
You're not entirely wrong about it being a soft reboot though. In Hulk, his entire character arc is him accepting that there is a time and place for him to unleash Hulk. In Avengers....he goes through that same character arc again. Literally, it's the same lesson he is supposed to have learned.
Also, the end of Hulk has Tony approaching Ross, seemingly regarding Shield. What happened to that, especially given how Tony was ambivalent towards the Shield in Iron Man 2, who knows.
So there is some of canon discontinuity going on, but it's still generally accepted to have happened.
Banner mentions his Harlem fight in the Avengers and you of course have Thunderbolt Ross being a presence in Civil War.
These threads are getting so predicable.
bad cg, too dark hurr harr
It could be Supergirl. The legs look a little bit thin for Superman in that Hologram that Bruce is looking at.
Super girls been on earth and out of her pod for while in this universe it seems like. In the prequel comic for Man of Steel by Snyder she's been around walking about for over a thousand years (either her or the person she founght with. That could be her and there's a theory in the community thread that she's the one that originally fought back steppenwolf which is why he refers to there now being no Kryptonions around to protect earth.
Steppenwolf says No Kryptonian, singular, meaning only Clark.
I saw the first trailer during my Dunkirk IMAX screening. That screen really does make everything look incredible. Does anyone know if the entire movie will be converted to fill that screen? If so I may need to buy an IMAX ticket for this.
He can't only be referring to Clark regardless as he isn't the only known kryptonian on Earth. Both Zod and Clark are dead. There was a whole bunch of Kryptonians on Earth
I think I only watched Iron Man before watching the Avengers and I enjoyed that film quite a lot.I just can't get hyped for this. I think it's due to them doing the world building backwards. Marvel established all the characters and then threw them into an ensemble film. I have no idea how these characters fit with one another yet. Hopefully there is a point in the film like this where you appreciate the fact all your childhood favorites are in the same movie and it's all working, this IS the Justice League.
It's like the end of BvS doesn't exist or something. It's pretty well established how he was all of that for a lot of people.That bullshit about Superman completely soured me on the trailer. Yeah, they're going for a full on retcon I guess but if they wanted Superman to be an inspiring person like they claim then this should have been the film that made people change their minds about Superman. They should have shown Superman do stuff that brought hope to people and so on. Mentioning that he already did that was a damn cop-out.
But in happened in BvS. They showed all the people congregated, holding candles, bringing flowers, exalting him as an example for the good things in humanity. That was shown.But this is what people are reacting to, reallyIt's not that they're blindsided. It's not that they missed something, or weren't paying attention, or are misunderstanding what's going on. A lot of people are getting it just fine:
Tell, don't show
And this is what they're reacting to. The films didn't show a lot of what they're telling you. They paid it lip service and then told you it counted. Amanda Waller says that a thing happened, so it happens. Bruce says Superman represented a thing, so its a representation.
Man of Steel and Batman v Superman (and Man of Steel was much better at it than BvS was, even though it still didn't do it all that well) paid a lot of lip service to Superman's ability to inspire, but almost all the drama of the films themselves aren't focused on that. The characters in the films who are supposed to represent those feelings - largely don't feel those things.
We are told later they did. We are told later that other people also felt that stuff. And people can point to the moments where the lip service is paid, the perfunctory execution is shrugged at, and the effects are explained to us instead of felt, and asked to accept that as being satisfactory.
Tell, don't show is a huge shortcut for these movies. Wonder Woman worked because it does not take that shortcut very often. Justice League's trailer seems to suggest that in some parts it has to (and Suicide Squad indulged this as well) because the story won't work if they don't shortcut the feeling that never got earned in the prior two movies.
Like, films aren't wikipedia entries - you can't just say a thing happened and then use it as a bullet point later as if that counts as building a living fictional world. It doesn't.
Often, Superman's effect on the world he occupied in MoS and BvS is an effect we're told about second and thirdhand instead of shown, or made to feel. And that's why Bruce's line rang false as fuck to a lot of people who heard it. Because the Superman he's describing was not the Superman we were shown, and the people we were asked to identify with in those movies certainly didn't think of or react to him in that way, either.
But in happened in BvS. They showed all the people congregated, holding candles, bringing flowers, exalting him as an example for the good things in humanity. That was shown.
I just can't get hyped for this. I think it's due to them doing the world building backwards. Marvel established all the characters and then threw them into an ensemble film. I have no idea how these characters fit with one another yet. Hopefully there is a point in the film like this where you appreciate the fact all your childhood favorites are in the same movie and it's all working, this IS the Justice League.