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Kagura (3DS) announced - Tits and ass flying out of the screen

PKrockin said:
This GAF uproar you're ranting about exists entirely in your imagination.

Maybe "uproar" was the wrong word. The reaction is pretty negative, though. I apologize if I came off like I was ranting, but I'm genuinely curious about the reaction as it doesn't seem to be based on the quality of the game but because of its sexual content. I recall Bayonetta be blasted by a few poster for its content as well, so I wonder if that was for the same reason as this or for some entirely different reason. Also, I'm aware that this isn't one of those "GAF hivemind" things, since that is a completely absurd construct.
 

LiK

Member
nckillthegrimace said:
Maybe "uproar" was the wrong word. The reaction is pretty negative, though. I apologize if I came off like I was ranting, but I'm genuinely curious about the reaction as it doesn't seem to be based on the quality of the game but because of its sexual content. I recall Bayonetta be blasted by a few poster for its content as well, so I wonder if that was for the same reason as this or for some entirely different reason. Also, I'm aware that this isn't one of those "GAF hivemind" things, since that is a completely absurd construct.
Actually, only a few guys have expressed their disgust here, the rest of us want this. ;)
 
Wow, that's nothing like I expected. Do they have to look like young girls with huge tits and asses? Why can't they look older, like the girl off of Ninja Scroll?
 

Ronok

Member
The blonde is my friends namesake... I should really introduce her to this wonderful game. =P

Edit: Actually I misread that... She's only voiced by her namesake. Nvm.
 

wrowa

Member
nckillthegrimace said:
I'm surprised at the extreme negative reaction that a seemingly large portion of GAF has at "erotic" imagery in games.
There is nothing wrong with erotic imagery in games. This game, however, isn't erotic. It's just a childish way of portraying women as mere tools of sex fantasies with enormous boobs. Okay, women is the wrong word. The characters in this game are actually school girls.
 

Pimpbaa

Member
wrowa said:
There is nothing wrong with erotic imagery in games. This game, however, isn't erotic. It's just a childish way of portraying women as mere tools of sex fantasies with enormous boobs. Okay, women is the wrong word. The characters in this game are actually school girls.

Funny thing is that you are seeing less complaints about this than you would about tits in a Soul Calibur game. School girl tits ok, adult female tits and it makes gamers look bad apparently.
 
donkey show said:
That style in Japan has long passed, good sir. Bow down to your new moe blob overlords.

that sucks that the art style is not popular anymore

we need more adult anime styles tired of all these school girls
 

Gospel

Parmesan et Romano
AzureJericho said:
It's funny how such a weird (re: batshit insane) premise could have been worth it slightly for the novelty were it not for the really really boring art style they used. Ah well. :p
Heh, there will always be a next time. As long as there is a Japan, there will always be next time.
 
wrowa said:
There is nothing wrong with erotic imagery in games. This game, however, isn't erotic. It's just a childish way of portraying women as mere tools of sex fantasies with enormous boobs. Okay, women is the wrong word. The characters in this game are actually school girls.

I certainly agree that objectification is a substantial part of games that are targeted at the otaku market, but I'd argue that when a game panders to an extremely specific niche, it can be of lower quality precisely because it panders. That's not an excuse for this game, but a theoretical reason for the existence of its contents. In a shrinking market like the Japanese one, developers really need any advantage they can get. Unfortunately, I think you're exactly right for reading the sexual content in this game as an indicator of low quality. I hope I'm wrong and the game is fucking awesome because I want every game to be fucking awesome, but we'll see.

Also, back to objectification: are you as disgusted when other mediums resort to objectification, like movies and pornography, or do games stand out as especially egregious?
 
donkey show said:
That style in Japan has long passed, good sir. Bow down to your new moe blob overlords.


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wrowa said:
There is nothing wrong with erotic imagery in games. This game, however, isn't erotic. It's just a childish way of portraying women as mere tools of sex fantasies with enormous boobs. Okay, women is the wrong word. The characters in this game are actually school girls.
nckillthegrimace said:
I certainly agree that objectification is a substantial part of games that are targeted at the otaku market, but I'd argue that when a game panders to an extremely specific niche, it can be of lower quality precisely because it panders. That's not an excuse for this game, but a theoretical reason for the existence of its contents. In a shrinking market like the Japanese one, developers really need any advantage they can get. Unfortunately, I think you're exactly right for reading the sexual content in this game as an indicator of low quality. I hope I'm wrong and the game is fucking awesome because I want every game to be fucking awesome, but we'll see.

Also, back to objectification: are you as disgusted when other mediums resort to objectification, like movies and pornography, or do games stand out as especially egregious?
It's probably fair to say that it depends on the game. Most sports games would appear to have a lot less objectification than the sport itself has - see American Football vs Madden, Basketball vs NBA Elite. Most big budget blockbuster shooters have less female objectification (if they have females at all thanks to COD domination) than big budget summer blockbusters.

On the other hand, there are games like this.

I guess you can say that at least the characters aren't wearing high heels or hookerboots. Seriously look at how many female characters wear one or the other these days.
 
and it just so happens she is the psycho-les. I like her design out of all the characters. though they all have something appealing. the hair is (oddly enough) the most common aspect.

the psycho-les's long blonde hair (I'm more into long hair)

the ponytail for her (my favorite hairstyle on a lady). bonus points for the Grade A zettai ryouiki

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the long black hair for her. bonus points for the stockings

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everyone else is meh

her eyes reminds me of Platinum the Trinity

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Hulud

Member
I don't see why someone would play through a mediocre game just to see this stuff when you could just go fap to 9 gorillian pictures in the same style on any number of websites, then play an awesome game instead.

But I guess it's unfair of me to assume this game will be mediocre/bad. I just have to figure that Japanese devs focus more on quantity rather than quality with all these softcore porn games they pump out.
 
Neiteio said:
Hmm, these girls look like they're 11.
Huh what? No they don't. This game may be juvenile and exploitative and they are indeed supposed to be schoolgirls, but their bodies are completely mature.
 
Blonde girl's boots look like they were forged from "jrpg final boss-ium".

So, Nippon Ichi didn't back down from localizing a game with the name "Dawn of Operation Panties Dood". Is it really inconceivable that someone would dare localize this? There has got to be a guaranteed minimum sales rate for the sheer novelty.
 
Metal Gear?! said:
Huh what? No they don't. This game may be juvenile and exploitative and they are indeed supposed to be schoolgirls, but their bodies are completely mature.

Yeah, but with the anime face of 10 year old. I really dislike the way their faces are, but I guess I'm like the old grumpy guy who's upset with changes. I'd much prefer them to actually look older in the face, but I guess it doesn't really matter what I want, lol.
 

Izayoi

Banned
StickSoldier said:
Yeah, but with the anime face of 10 year old. I really dislike the way their faces are, but I guess I'm like the old grumpy guy who's upset with changes. I'd much prefer them to actually look older in the face, but I guess it doesn't really matter what I want, lol.
Are you saying all anime faces look ten years old?

As far as anime faces go they look pretty run-of-the-mill.
 
nckillthegrimace said:
I'm surprised at the extreme negative reaction that a seemingly large portion of GAF has at "erotic" imagery in games. Does the same uproar occur when something extremely violent happens in games, or does this outrage only happen when a game plays around in the sexual space, even in an obviously playful, cheesecake manner? Would the reaction be different if the game was extremely good but still "disgusting" or "embarrassing" in its sexuality, or do those concerns trump the actual quality of the game? I'm just curious if this is a case of games conditioning people into thinking that sexual content in games is terrible, like the terrifyingly bad sex scenes in Heavy Rain and Bioware games, or if this is a cultural thing, like some have mentioned it not having a chance for localization, or if it is something else entirely, like a complete ambivalence or disgust towards obviously otaku-aimed,pandering goods.

GAF + anime does not mix. Have a look at any thread about a game involving anime girls in states of undress, especially those with 'icecream' anywhere in the title. Remember this and learn to ignore it and you will be fine.
 
meltingparappa said:
Blonde girl's boots look like they were forged from "jrpg final boss-ium".

So, Nippon Ichi didn't back down from localizing a game with the name "Dawn of Operation Panties Dood". Is it really inconceivable that someone would dare localize this? There has got to be a guaranteed minimum sales rate for the sheer novelty.
People already forgot the "Naughty Edition" of Record of Agarest War

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Ledsen

Member
JustAnotherOtaku said:
GAF + anime does not mix. Have a look at any thread about a game involving anime girls in states of undress, especially those with 'icecream' anywhere in the title. Remember this and learn to ignore it and you will be fine.

The reaction to threads like this has nothing to do with the artstyle, and everything to do with the fact that most of them are blatantly exploitative and/or pedophilic in nature. You don't see these kinds of reactions in SRW threads for example.
 
I see it as no more exploitative than the Boobs, Butt, and Legs thread in the OT side. Pedophilic, eh, that's a bit of a grey area, I guess. I don't see them as little girls (the pink haired one would be the closest)
 

Ellis Kim

Banned
meltingparappa said:
Blonde girl's boots look like they were forged from "jrpg final boss-ium".

So, Nippon Ichi didn't back down from localizing a game with the name "Dawn of Operation Panties Dood". Is it really inconceivable that someone would dare localize this? There has got to be a guaranteed minimum sales rate for the sheer novelty.
lol, I know, right?

I like her shoes too. I don't see this game coming out here unless the gameplay is solid.
 

LiK

Member
Neiteio said:
Hmm, these girls look like they're 11.

But still. Blonde. Boobs. Inner side boobs, to boot.

I'm conflicted.
They're not real, nothing to feel conflicted about. :)
 
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