Delusibeta
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Is this the point where I point out the irony in an a employee of the company that's currently working on Bayonetta 2 complaining about selling games anime based on character design?
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JP: Your appreciation of what has been released when is demonstrably flawed and you're really doing no better than acting like an old man going on how all sitcoms were better in the 1950's. That's not to say there aren't points to be made, but you're just making yourself look foolish.
Anime like Cowboy Bebop and Millennium Actress were never the norm, else they wouldn't still be remembered so fondly compared to so many earlier works.
Anime has changed to a certain degree overall, as all mediums tend to do, but the '80s and '90s were not really a universal golden age. They were full of OVAs with ridiculous hyper-violence, sexual assault, etc. And yes, there was moe too. I don't think using anime to sell merchandise is anything new, either. I don't like Kill la Kill and 90% of anime is still crap, but as long as things like Wolf Children, Time of Eve, Bunny Drop, Flowers of Evil, Space Dandy, and From the New World are still being made, it's not accurate to say that anime is irredeemably and measurably worse than in the '90s.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Ouch, that sucks dude. I'm sure getting all those requests was annoying. Guess Imaishi (Gurren Lagann, Kill la Kill guy) is getting compared to Kamiya now more than ever. Not that I disagree with that comparison.
I don't disagree that the good:bad ratio has gotten worse now, but I'd say that's more a result of more stuff getting made. You know, Sturgeon's Law and all that. Still plenty modern stuff worth watching out there IMO.
Jin-Roh is 1999.
Mushishi is 2005
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is 2002
Hajime no Ippo is 2000
Baccano is 2007
Tatami Galaxy is 2008
Seirei no Moribito is 2007
Planetes is 2003
Paranoia Agent is 2004
Little Witch Academia is 2013
Gankutsuou is 2003
Space Battleship Yamato 2199 is 2013
Meanwhile, if you look beyond the classics, a lot of shit came out in the 80's and 90's.
Mushishi is 2005
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex is 2002
Hajime no Ippo is 2000
Baccano is 2007
Tatami Galaxy is 2008
Seirei no Moribito is 2007
Planetes is 2003
Paranoia Agent is 2004
Little Witch Academia is 2013
Gankutsuou is 2003
Space Battleship Yamato 2199 is 2013
Meanwhile, if you look beyond the classics, a lot of shit came out in the 80's and 90's.
My favourite episode...huh I'm not sure. I love every episode so I guess my highlights would be more appropriate. Kill la Kill Spoilers
-Episode 7 was amazing because Mako. Soo cute how she starts to act all serious but the episode as a whole is pretty sad. Seeing how everyone changes was upsetting. The end is full of feels as you'd expect. That's the moment I truly loved Mako.
-The following episode (8) was also really fun. Seeing more of Gamagori and his back story and a look into the compassion Satsuki had towards him and why he's as tough as he is and why he swears to protect her was was cool. Plus seeing him drive was funny.
-Episode 4 was amazing but
so that was a bummer.
-The double whammy of both episode 11 + 12 was full of hype due to the fight with Nonon and the introduction to Harime. That shot of Ryuko at the end of episode 11 and her going berserk in episode 12 was crazy hype.
-Episode 15 with takarada was really fun.
-Episode 20 was just a beast. Ryuko all pissed off heading towards Honnouji on her fucking awesome bike, fights Nui, puts on fucking Junketsu and then Satsuki puts on Senketsu? Really? Fucking really? Oh damn. I was giggling.
-The last 4 episodes just carried that momentum really. Hyped all the way.
I really want to watch it again but I'm gonna wait for the UK bluray which will be out by years end. Anime Limited <3
-Episode 7 was amazing because Mako. Soo cute how she starts to act all serious but the episode as a whole is pretty sad. Seeing how everyone changes was upsetting. The end is full of feels as you'd expect. That's the moment I truly loved Mako.
-The following episode (8) was also really fun. Seeing more of Gamagori and his back story and a look into the compassion Satsuki had towards him and why he's as tough as he is and why he swears to protect her was was cool. Plus seeing him drive was funny.
-Episode 4 was amazing but
we never see Maiko again 
-The double whammy of both episode 11 + 12 was full of hype due to the fight with Nonon and the introduction to Harime. That shot of Ryuko at the end of episode 11 and her going berserk in episode 12 was crazy hype.
-Episode 15 with takarada was really fun.
-Episode 20 was just a beast. Ryuko all pissed off heading towards Honnouji on her fucking awesome bike, fights Nui, puts on fucking Junketsu and then Satsuki puts on Senketsu? Really? Fucking really? Oh damn. I was giggling.
-The last 4 episodes just carried that momentum really. Hyped all the way.
I really want to watch it again but I'm gonna wait for the UK bluray which will be out by years end. Anime Limited <3
Haibane Renmei barely has any marketing. Nor does Kinos journey. Those are two great shows. There are other examples, like Jinrui and Tsuritama. These shows stand on the strength of the characters.
At least you said Millennium Actress.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I do agree with what your saying that there seems to have been higher quality animes in the past however I don't think that they have disappeared. You just have to look for them
Well, I guess that cements that I was right about Twitter being too short for articulate opinions, though I still found the moe bit kind of crazy.
True, when you cull back over a certain period you can extract the best easily. Even the last decade can be the same way as that post kind of highlights, while if you tried to actually look at it season-by-season most of that's just crap I either couldn't care about it or is just moderately interesting.
This thread sure got caught up on one guy's opinion
I'm still morbidly curious in a fusion of Vanquish and Shadow the Hedgehog
Not hard to see why.
America had the benefit of playing catchup in the late 90's with companies localizing the standout titles first. Now everything comes over unfiltered in real-time and it's a total mess to sort out.
Wasn't Tatami Galaxy in 2010? Yuasa would have been directing Kaiba in 2008.
Plenty of great stuff comes out today though, definitely. I think people who think that no great anime comes out anymore just really don't pay attention to the more interesting stuff.
But they ended it!Yeah, seriously... Back to your regularly scheduled program... And someone fix my tag.
Yeah, and can make it kind of worrisome about still getting whatever good stuff that DIDN'T come out then. Well, we still got Dirty Pair even though it took a long while and stuff like Fist of the North Star got brought over, so at this point it's probably more about getting some of that stuff out AGAIN, like someone re-licensing Urusei Yatsura and Sunrise or whoever pulling their head out of their ass about Gundam.
Doh, you're right. Thought it was 2008 for some reason and that was the one title I didn't double check.
Well, again, they don't have anything acting as a filter anymore, so it's rather understandable. Word of mouth is also unreliable because anime fandom always has that segment that is perpetually enamored with everything then burns out entirely, replaced by the next batch of people raving about every last thing.
The OVA dude! The party has just begun.
*cough*
and then there are people like me who will die surrounded by anime items.
At leasT I hope to go out that way.
She can step on me.
Yeah, that's true. I pick up a lot of shows each season, and I end up sitting through a lot of stuff that's bad/alright/good before I can find something great. I'd say that usually there's one, or sometimes two great shows each season. This is in an industry that usually puts out around 30-50ish shows every season, so I can understand why it would be difficult for some to find the diamonds in the rough.
Dat resolve knows no bounds.
Yeah, KLK is not one of those standout titles. It was a fun but messy ride, and that's about it.
Except I have no idea if you are getting a KLK video game.
In any case it's a bad idea to harrass someone on twitter about making an anime game even if it is.
Especially when a company will have to end up selling copies of the game to far more people than those who nagged them about it.
Yeah, seriously... Back to your regularly scheduled program... And someone fix my tag.
For what it's worth, I do agree about the disintegrating approach to quality anime in the market overall. Eva was meant to deconstruct, but instead it just made the corruption popular.
It was like Eva said, "this is what you are, anime! You're a horrific world-destructing, lonely-child-exploiting, endlessly-duplicating Oedipal monstrosity!"
And the industry said, "Uh, hey, you're right! Even moreso than we thought! Thanks for the advice! Off we go!"
Oops.
Eva was a show that explicitly promised its audience more fanservice in next episode previews.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Ive just been reading along, I kinda want to contribute but dont know how and points I would have stated have already been said lol
Kinda why it worked so well. I guess, intentionally or not on whatever level, it saw anime's power as this repeatably marketable mutant husk, and turned it into a story. And it was so right in certain aspects, it became a global phenomenon and enforced the things it perhaps didn't quite mean to. A receiver of its own boons, and a victim of its own banes.
It should be a turn-based JRPG based around outfits ala FFX-2.
My mission is now sitting here and soaking in Eva getting shit on.
It's always a good day to remember how bad those last two episodes (three really) were.
Quite a lot of anime has always skewed the way of the Otaku, what is the Otaku Incest Fetish Thing of today's was the Moe series of recent was the harem series of the 1990s and 2000s or the hyper violent shlock of the 1980s. There is always bad shit and like the good shit both have changed their faces over the decades.
Giolon
Member
I've already got Ryuuko on order.
I think it's futile getting the thread back on track at this point though.
I enjoyed the top favorites list. I had written about re-watching Ep 4 and 5 a little while ago, but I scrapped it when it was clear the thread was going to be off track for a while. I'll just say Ep 4 is still one of my favorite episodes. (RIP Maiko)
That's a pretty typical Japan release strategy. The US release hasn't been announced yet, other than that Aniplex has the license. They have a
Kill La Kill is the one show that I'm willing to shell out for like that though.
I feel bad for the Gurren Lagann superfans that finally got their English Blu-Ray release in the form of a limited edition $500 Japanese import set.I don't necessarily want a game, but I want a KLK unlockable outfit in Rising 2. Ryuuko's attacks fit that game too much and seeing Raiden prancing around in a Sengentsu outfit would just kill me.
(this is, however, also true -- it just seems worse now)
For a while anime became popular precisely because it had sex and violence, while American animation shied away from it.
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