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[KernelPanic]

They're not very subtle are they?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/24/europe/putin-le-pen-kremlin/index.html

(CNN) Russian President Vladimir Putin stressed the "great importance" of ties between his country and France as he met French far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen at the Kremlin on Friday, Russian state-run news agency Tass reported.

Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters that Russia was not seeking to influence the upcoming French election but had the right to communicate with French politicians.

Russia had no intention of "interfering in anyone's internal business or electoral processes," Peskov said

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https://twitter.com/asluhn/status/845260656773386240

"It's now the world of Putin, the world of Donald Trump," Le Pen says after meeting with Russian president

Not very subtle at all

 

[FreezeSSC]

Are her poll numbers still rising?

 

[oti]

Russia had no intention of "interfering in anyone's internal business or electoral processes," Peskov said

lol

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Lets see:

> Donald Trump surrogates and transition team members meet with Russians
> Le Pen is seen in Trump tower shortly after election to meet with Trump
> Le pen starts receiving funding from Russians
> Le Pen meets with Russians

Hmmmmm....what's that smell guys?

 

[Xando]

It gets better

@Alexey__Kovalev

Russian newswire:
BREAKING: KREMLIN SAYS RUSSIAN BANKS WILL SPONSOR LE PEN'S CAMPAIGN

2 mins later:

RETRACTION: KREMLIN SAYS THEY WON'T

https://twitter.com/Alexey__Kovalev/status/845243450421383168

 

[Sectorseven]

Le Pen sounds like a Bond villain.

 

[Saya]

- She received loans and payments from Russian banks.
- She backs Russia's annexation of Crimea.
- She wants to remove the sanctions on Russia asap.

Trump and her have so much in common.

 

[Buzzman]

Fuck Putin and his nazi puppets. Why can't they all go drink some Polonium.

 

[Ardenyal]

Foreign financial assistance should be grounds for treason.

 

[Vladimir Putin]

That just means "the pen" in French

 

[samoscratch]

Fuck Putin and his nazi puppets. Why can't they all go drink some Polonium.

For real.

 

[Laevateinn]

Oh, wow, you're interested in the arts too?! Small world!

 

[Dude Abides]

Possible nuke area?

 

[RinsFury]

Fuck Putin and his scumbag nazi stooges. Feels like evil is taking over the world lately.

 

[Dierce]

So Russia is just a mafia state run by Putin who sends out his cronies to murder his detractors in the most incriminating fashion yet denies ever doing it. They also support far right candidates yet deny ever supporting them.

So what are they getting at? Why lie about something that is so obvious?

 

[Ac30]

That just means "the pen" in French

What a gif lol

 

[KernelPanic]

So what are they getting at? Why lie about something that is so obvious?

Because everyone knows and no one is going to do anything about it anyway.

Maybe if there was a different POTUS in the WH.

 

[oti]

- She received loans and payments from Russian banks.
- She backs Russia's annexation of Crimea.
- She wants to remove the sanctions on Russia asap.

Trump and her have so much in common.

She's actually smart though. Batshit insane and dangerous, but smart.

 

[Dierce]

Because everyone knows and no one is going to do anything about it anyway.

Maybe if there was a different POTUS in the WH.

Putin is betting it all on republicans being in power for decades or that his actions will not have a negative consequence. If he fails at destabilizing the west which is what he is probably after than his actions might lead to a coalition of left leaning governments that completely oppose him.

I can see other countries doing to Russia what they have been doing to us. Maybe establishing a 'wikileaks' that focuses on revealing Putin's ties to organized crime and Russian corruption.

 

[commedieu]

So, what is the world going to look like with Russia controlling the west and france/uk?

 

[Tranqueris]

Is there a reason why the following argument doesn't seem to be a campaign killer in France especially after Brexit and the US election?

Putin is a dictator who kills people
Putin attacked America by interfering in the election.
The person who won the election is now under investigation for possibly colluding with a dictator.
Russia is reportedly trying to interfere in the German and French elections.
Le Pen is apparently very pro Putin and pro Trump.

 

[Ac30]

Putin is betting it all on republicans being in power for decades or that his actions will not have a negative consequence. If he fails at destabilizing the west which is what he is probably after than his actions might lead to a coalition of left leaning governments that completely oppose him.

I can see other countries doing to Russia what they have been doing to us. Maybe establishing a 'wikileaks' that focuses on revealing Putin's ties to organized crime and Russian corruption.

Russians wouldn't care though, few of them are under any illusions that they live in a free society. They're powerless.

Also LePen has slowly been losing support in the 2nd round, and if Trump continues being a shitty president it's likely to tank further to her 27% base and stay there; it's currently around 37% for the second round.

 

[KHlover]

It cost the AfD a lot of goodwill here in Germany when Petry met with Putin. Hope the same happens in France.

 

[Alx]

Are her poll numbers still rising?

No, her polls have been high but mostly flat for the last few months.

 

[Ogodei]

Folks just aren't being subtle about this at all. Especially since Europe is more aware of Russian chicanery than Americans are.

 

[Ac30]

No, her polls have been high but mostly flat for the last few months.

Just checked, Macron seems to be ahead properly for the first time. Debate boost is real, let's hope it sticks

 

[Robdraggoo]

It gets better

Lol

"What, were not allowed to say that? Oh, uhh just kidding"

 

[Burt]

Is there a reason why the following argument doesn't seem to be a campaign killer in France especially after Brexit and the US election?

Putin is a dictator who kills people
Putin attacked America by interfering in the election.
The person who won the election is now under investigation for possibly colluding with a dictator.
Russia is reportedly trying to interfere in the German and French elections.
Le Pen is apparently very pro Putin and pro Trump.

This is why Putin is probably falls asleep every night laughing to himself maniacally. None of this shit matters anymore, provably so.

He has with absolute, 100% certainty, found the greatest flaw in democracy, and exploiting it has probably been easier and more effective than he would have ever hoped for. Looking back at the anti-Western leaders of the past must make him straight up cackle at how stupid they look now.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Putin is betting it all on republicans being in power for decades or that his actions will not have a negative consequence. If he fails at destabilizing the west which is what he is probably after than his actions might lead to a coalition of left leaning governments that completely oppose him.

I can see other countries doing to Russia what they have been doing to us. Maybe establishing a 'wikileaks' that focuses on revealing Putin's ties to organized crime and Russian corruption.

The thing is, if the West simply chooses to isolate and sanction Russia, it just consolidates Putin's grip within his own sphere of influence, which may be enough for him.

Also, Putin seems to be much better than the West at controlling the media and his political opponents, in that he doesn't hesitate to assassinate critics.

 

[Ushojax]

"I have no intention of interfering in elections"

*proceeds to hold photo op with preferred candidate*

 

[Shadow Puppetry]

That just means "the pen" in French

Lol, was he that bored?

 

[frontovik]

Politics has certainly become more farcical as of late, but it's very narrow-minded to criticize the Russian government dealing with political sabotage when other major nation states are doing the same thing.

 

[Trojita]

Politics has certainly become more farcical as of late, but it's very narrow-minded to criticize the Russian government dealing with political sabotage when other major nation states are doing the same thing.

 

[CrunchyFrog]

Politics has certainly become more farcical as of late, but it's very narrow-minded to criticize the Russian government dealing with political sabotage when other major nation states are doing the same thing.

It's literally nowhere near the same thing. At all. Call me when another foreign power illegally hacks political campaign organizations in cooperation with their opposition and deploys millions of computerized agents to influence a top governmental election while routinely assassinating domestic political rivals. Get your head out of the sand

 

[TheRealTalker]

Politics has certainly become more farcical as of late, but it's very narrow-minded to criticize the Russian government dealing with political sabotage when other major nation states are doing the same thing.

it doesn't take from the fact that they are still doing political sabotage

 

[Mimosa97]

Is there a reason why the following argument doesn't seem to be a campaign killer in France especially after Brexit and the US election?

Putin is a dictator who kills people
Putin attacked America by interfering in the election.
The person who won the election is now under investigation for possibly colluding with a dictator.
Russia is reportedly trying to interfere in the German and French elections.
Le Pen is apparently very pro Putin and pro Trump.

A lot of French people don't like the fact that our recent presidents have been blindly following american foreign policy. They hate american imperialism more than they fear Putin.

Chirac is still hailed as a hero because he said no to the war in Iraq even though he was a feckless president.

 

[KDR_11k]

Lets see:

> Donald Trump surrogates and transition team members meet with Russians
> Le Pen is seen in Trump tower shortly after election to meet with Trump
> Le pen starts receiving funding from Russians
> Le Pen meets with Russians

Hmmmmm....what's that smell guys?

Wasn't the FN on Putin's payroll before DT even entered politics? Most European right (and left) extremist parties have links to Russia.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Politics has certainly become more farcical as of late, but it's very narrow-minded to criticize the Russian government dealing with political sabotage when other major nation states are doing the same thing.

That's like saying that it's narrow-minded for one team to get upset when the other team scores a touchdown, or that it's ironic for a company to resist a hostile takeover when it has performed hostile takeovers in the past.

Yes, the US influences politics around the world, but of course it would also simultaneously seek to limit other countries from influencing the American system. Every nation has a right to guard their sovereignty.

 

[Alo0oy]

It's literally nowhere near the same thing. At all. Call me when another foreign power illegally hacks political campaign organizations in cooperation with their opposition and deploys millions of computerized agents to influence a top governmental election while routinely assassinating domestic political rivals. Get your head out of the sand

I'm not gonna sit here and defend Russia, but America And the UK literally overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a dictatorship.

I always see posts like "Are we the bad guys now?", the answer is no, you've always been the bad guy, and so was Russia. Only now you're not just a bad guy to other countries, you're a bad guy to your own people too.

 

[Pomerlaw]

I'm not gonna sit here and defend Russia, but America And the UK literally overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a dictatorship.

I always see posts like "Are we the bad guys now?", the answer is no, you've always been the bad guy, and so was Russia. Only now you're not just a bad guy to other countries, you're a bad guy to your own people too.

Here we go.

 

[jelly]

How come the Russians didn't bother with the UK.

Where they just that stupid, he didn't need to try.

 

[tuxfool]

A lot of French people don't like the fact that our recent presidents have been blindly following american foreign policy. They hate american imperialism more than they fear Putin.

Chirac is still hailed as a hero because he said no to the war in Iraq even though he was a feckless president.

But kowtowing to Putin is following american foreign policy?

 

[Tranqueris]

How come the Russians didn't bother with the UK.

Where we just that stupid, he didn't need to try.

Isn't Nigel Farage another Putin stooge who was also linked with Trump and Assange?

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Wasn't the FN on Putin's payroll before DT even entered politics? Most European right (and left) extremist parties have links to Russia.

I don't know about that as I'm not up to speed on French or European politics, but if that is case then I would ask how Europeans supporting those parties feel about bending the knee to the kremlins.

 

[Alo0oy]

Here we go.

How was this post whataboutism? I saw a post that said "The West aren't that bad", but no, they are as bad as Russia to many people, including a lot of people living in the Middle East right now (I am one of them).

Russia, America, ISIS, and Bashar are all involved in wrecking Syria. And the Gulf States are a disgrace because they continue to be supported by "The West".

But go on ahead with your American-centric views if you'd like. That's why white supremacy will always be alive throughout the entire world, the lack of self-reflection will make sure of that.

 

[Hippolnareff]

"It's now the world of Putin, the world of Donald Trump," Le Pen says after meeting with Russian president

I don't know how you can vote for a leader of your country that is essentially saying your country is redundant/irrelevant.

 

[Alo0oy]

How are so many candidates getting away with stuff like this? First it was Trump, and now it's Le Pen!

 

[Earthbound64]

Foreign financial assistance should be grounds for treason.

Well, that would save the US a whole bunch of money in providing assistance to other countries...

 

[KillerMan91]

Are her poll numbers still rising?

Current second round support if its Macron vs Le Pen:

It's pretty much impossible for Le Pen to win .And before someone says something about Trump or Brexit the percentage difference here is far bigger than it was in those scenarios (Trump and Leave were always within 5% of win).

 

[Alx]

How come the Russians didn't bother with the UK.

Where they just that stupid, he didn't need to try.

As mentioned above, links between Farage and Russia are everywhere to be found.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/mar/31/nigel-farage-relationship-russian-media-scrutiny