permutated
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Left, Right, Up, Down: The 2D appreciation thread!
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Whoever designed this level will burn for all eternity.
Poimandres
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permutated said:
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Whoever designed this level will be showered with praise for all eternity.
Fixed. Best level ever!
cartman414
Member
KevinCow said:
Irony alert. HoD was quite possibly the "lame copy" of the Metroidvanias. It tried too much to be SotN 2, but only inherited the "size for the sake of size" design ethic of the game it wanted to be. And both shoulder buttons used for dash just seemed superfluous.
DoS, aside from the butchered artwork and touch screen implementation, had been improved in terms of balance over AoS. It's just as good as its predecessor on the whole if not better.
permutated
Banned
Totz said:
I have it in my library, haven't played it since i first had an NES.
Oh, and how this was not mentioned yet I have no idea, it's on my top 10 all time list.
sevenchaos
Banned
My most favorite NES game (probably even 2D) ever!permutated said:Oh, and how this was not mentioned yet I have no idea, it's on my top 10 all time list.
Ratio-wise, I like a lot of 2D games, but I don't think it's because they're 2D.
Older games that I like are usually arcade games, genuinely arcade-inspired games, or games that pamper the player less than modern games. And since they're older, there's a higher chance of them being 2D.
There's definitely something to be said about the way sprites look versus polygons, but I don't look at it as an inherent advantage, I guess.
Older games that I like are usually arcade games, genuinely arcade-inspired games, or games that pamper the player less than modern games. And since they're older, there's a higher chance of them being 2D.
There's definitely something to be said about the way sprites look versus polygons, but I don't look at it as an inherent advantage, I guess.
I didn't get that feeling at all. In fact, I think that, other than CotM, it's the most unique Metroidvania. Since you only use the whip, there was less of an emphasis on collecting new weapons and switching them out. The only weapon upgrades were various elemental stones and the one to break blocks. That's not necessarily better or worse than the way most of the other games do it, just different, which makes it stand out more. Then there's the subweapon system with the books and such which, similarly, is different and helps it stand out.cartman414 said:
As for the dashing, it wasn't just the use of L and R, the dash itself felt much better than the backdashes in other games. But I also like being able to dash either direction regardless of where I'm facing, and I like being able to dash in, attack, and dash out.
I dunno, HoD kinda makes me think of Metroid Prime 2. They both a lot of shit, but most of the complaints people have with them - being too similar to their predecessors, not liking the dual world systems - didn't bother me at all. The one thing that did bother me about HoD, though, was the music, which was pretty much shit.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
permutated said:I have it in my library, haven't played it since i first had an NES.
Oh, and how this was not mentioned yet I have no idea, it's on my top 10 all time list.
What is name of that game?
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What about this games,
Naked Snake
Member
Totz said:
I played Quackshot, and World of Illusions. Good memories. I even taped the playthrough of me and my friend going through World of Illustions in 2-player co-up. Back when I discovered that I can tape my games by connecting the Genesis to a VCR :lol
I remember taping Flashback on VHS too, and I used to pop them in them occasionally and watch in consequent years. Flashback rocked, playing that with headphones in the dark was quite an experience. The animations, art, setting, presentation, and sound effects made it really immersive back in the day and a lot of fun.
Speaking of Castlevania, I only played SotN, CotM, DoS and PoR. Funnily, I'd also rank them in that order from best to worst. I couldn't afford to buy AoS when it came out unfortunately.
Zerodoppler
Member
Sequels, please.
cartman414
Member
KevinCow said:
In Metroidvanias though, the lack of variety of weapons kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. I was fine with the concept of whips only, but even under those terms the selection was limited.
On the flipside, between the heart consuming subweapons and the mana consuming magical attacks, there was too much firepower.
I suppose. But then, I would have rather had a better controlling Juste to begin with.
The problem was that HoD's design IMO was meh, and the dual-layer construct only compounded that.
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2D gaming is the only kind of gaming I need. ^_^ If more quality 2D games were being made, gaming would be a happier place.
And this is why DLC and the DS are the kings of this generation.
Also, Ranger X and KevinCow's posts are full of more win than I can comprehend.
And this is why DLC and the DS are the kings of this generation.
Also, Ranger X and KevinCow's posts are full of more win than I can comprehend.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Up, down, up, down, left, left, shoot, shoot (ops... not a 2D game )
This thursday is a good day for 2D releases :
360 - Raiden IV
PSP - Ikki Tousen: Eloquent Fist
incoming :
DS - Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
360 - Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra
)This thursday is a good day for 2D releases :
360 - Raiden IV
PSP - Ikki Tousen: Eloquent Fist
both preordered
incoming :
DS - Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
360 - Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra
A Black Falcon
Member
Guybrush Threepwood said:
I think the popularity of games like Toshinden proves conclusively that such a strategy would have miserably failed. People wanted 3d, "good looking" by modern standards or not.
Of course, not everything went 3d. PC strategy games, wargames, and building sims stayed almost 100% 2d for years, and many adventure games were 2d or prerendered as well. Many PC RPGs were 2d too, etc... and virtually all handheld games were, of course. It's just the major consoles that stopped getting as many 2d games.
As for the thread, I like 2d for some things, 3d for others...
But on that note, is the purpose here 2d graphics, 2d gameplay, or both? Because the three are not the same thing... and several 3d-ish-gameplay, 2d-ish-graphics games like Doom and Top Gear have been posted here, along with rendered-3d-sprites stuff, etc. So does it then include polyagonal games with fully 2d-style gameplay (like '2.5d' platformers)? It's definitely a borderline category...
But anyway, sure, I love 2d, just not at the expense of 3d. As much as I love Curse of Monkey Island's graphics (and I definitely do), I don't dislike early 3d graphics either. Sometimes 2d might look better -- for instance, I still think that Warcraft III probably have looked better with higher-detail sprites than the polygonal graphics it uses -- but sometimes 3d looks better -- for instance, with most behind-the-vehicle racing games (sure, I love Top Gear and F-Zero and their efforts at faking 3d, but I think there's little doubt that 3d added incredibly to the racing game genre.), among others.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Probably the last 2D platform/action released on home console before Wario Land Shake :
PS1 - Gegege no Kitarou: Gyakushuu! Youkai Daichisen 11/12/2003 (courtesy of c-games.info, i love your site !!!)
PS1 - Gegege no Kitarou: Gyakushuu! Youkai Daichisen 11/12/2003 (courtesy of c-games.info, i love your site !!!)
Psycho Penguin
Banned
IntelliHeath said:
Little Nemo (NES)
Ruud_Luiten
Member
A B Right A C A Down A B Right A
that was an awesome code!
Now give me a new 2D:
- Boogerman
- Toejam and Earl
- JazzJack rabbit
- Commander Keen
- Ristar
- Clockwork Knight
- Klonoa
- Gex
that was an awesome code!
Now give me a new 2D:
- Boogerman
- Toejam and Earl
- JazzJack rabbit
- Commander Keen
- Ristar
- Clockwork Knight
- Klonoa
- Gex
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I forget to post one of my favorite game for SNES (I know it might be biased but it was a lot of fun)
handofg0d said:Super Famicom was a great place for 2D. Here are some of my favorite JP only releases that need more attention for both their awesome graphics and stellar gameplay.
GO GO ACKMAN (3 games, all looked the same)
MAGICAL POP'N
GANBARE DAIKU NO GENSAN
SD HIRYU NO KEN
Oh shiznit i'm checking those tonight.
2D games are still the best if you ask me... something about the sprites on tiled backgrounds look for me is priceless. Recently, it has been a good time to be a 2D fan... MM9, Kirby Super Star, Wario Land: Shake It!!, and I managed to stumble across a copy of Darkwing Duck for NES. A stream of consciousness list of some of my faves that haven't been mentioned yet, some a bit more obscure, all of them amazing:
Arc the Lad 2
Life Force
Jackal
Ranger-X
Alien Soldier
Thunderforce 4
Strider
Gunner's Heaven
Umihara Kawase Shun
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Shock Troopers
MERCS
Suikoden II
Demon's Crest
Skyblazer
DoReMi Fantasy
Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Tryrush Deppy
Ninja Five-O
Shining Force II
FireStriker
Galactic Attack/Layer Section
Landstalker
Star Ocean
Romancing SaGa 3
Seiken Densetsu 3
Arc the Lad 2
Life Force
Jackal
Ranger-X
Alien Soldier
Thunderforce 4
Strider
Gunner's Heaven
Umihara Kawase Shun
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Shock Troopers
MERCS
Suikoden II
Demon's Crest
Skyblazer
DoReMi Fantasy
Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Tryrush Deppy
Ninja Five-O
Shining Force II
FireStriker
Galactic Attack/Layer Section
Landstalker
Star Ocean
Romancing SaGa 3
Seiken Densetsu 3
cartman414
Member
djtiesto said:
Solid list. A couple items I would add are Gleylancer, Monster World IV and Valkyrie Profile.
Not to mention anything previously unmentioned here by Compile.
Diablohead
Member
B, A, Down, A, Start, Start (Skitchin')
A + C + Up + Start (Road Rash 2)
Up, Down, Left, Right, A+Start (Sonic 1 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17 (Sonic 2 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17, 1, 1, 2, 4
1, 9, 9, 2, 1, 1, 2, 4 (1992, 24th November Sonic 2 release date)
4, 1, 2, 6
Up, Up, Down, Down, Up, Up, Up, Up (Sonic 3)
All I remember
*Fixed a wrong number*
A + C + Up + Start (Road Rash 2)
Up, Down, Left, Right, A+Start (Sonic 1 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17 (Sonic 2 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17, 1, 1, 2, 4
1, 9, 9, 2, 1, 1, 2, 4 (1992, 24th November Sonic 2 release date)
4, 1, 2, 6
Up, Up, Down, Down, Up, Up, Up, Up (Sonic 3)
All I remember
*Fixed a wrong number*
Naked Snake
Member
stuminus3 said:
Shake Land is out? The more you know!
Diablohead said:B, A, Down, A, Start, Start (Skitchin')
A + B + Up + Start (Road Rash 2)
Up, Down, Left, Right, A+Start (Sonic 1 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17 (Sonic 2 MD)
19, 65, 9, 17, 1, 1, 2, 6
1, 9, 9, 2, 1, 1, 2, 4 (1992, 24th November Sonic 2 release date)
4, 1, 2, 6
Up, Up, Down, Down, Up, Up, Up, Up (Sonic 3)
All I remember
blast! you figured it out! (refer to my older post)
Diablohead
Member
DrFunk said:
Level 8 Boss
Member
*Walks in and appreciates*
SF series, minus Alpha 1 and SF3 New Generation
SNK fighters
Streets of Rage series
Gun Star Heroes
Astro Boy
Sonic
Mario
Viewtiful Joe
Darkstalkers
Hell I could be here all night. It's all about 2D. I love it, and long may it continue.
SF series, minus Alpha 1 and SF3 New Generation
SNK fighters
Streets of Rage series
Gun Star Heroes
Astro Boy
Sonic
Mario
Viewtiful Joe
Darkstalkers
Hell I could be here all night. It's all about 2D. I love it, and long may it continue.
cartman414
Member
Error said:
Apparently you missed my post.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
handofg0d said:
Magical Pop'n is amazing.
Go Go Ackman (only played the first) & Hammerin Harry are good, but nothing special.
Best Japan only are:
DoReMi Fantasy (released on VC)
Majyuuou (aka King Of Demons)
The Violinist of Hamelin (translation patch available)
R2 Rendering Ranger
Sutte Hakkun
Mario & Wario
(Still playing the last two)
And probably Ganbare Goemon 2-4, but since they are not translated I'd have to check a FAQ for the town sections, which is very tedious to me, so chances are I'll never play them.
Umihare Kawase has its fans too, but it's not my cup of tea. Maybe if when I lost all lives I wouldn't have to start all over again I would play it more.
flintstryker
Banned
up up down down left right A B A
guess the game
guess the game
Lets attack Aggressively!
NES
The first mission! Dont stop shooting, push back the evil Red Falcon's forces!
The alien menace, Red Falcon is back!
GENESIS
Be the hardest of hardcore! Battle across the high seas to the highway!
SNES
Traverse a smoggy factory captured by aliens!
PLAYSTATION 2
Insane hovercycle giant mecha action!
NINTENDO DS
Harbor stage. Nuff said. (The best 2d action game stage ever)
Come on Konami and Wayforward + Virt on sound, I want a new HD 2.5D contra!
NES
The first mission! Dont stop shooting, push back the evil Red Falcon's forces!
The alien menace, Red Falcon is back!
GENESIS
Be the hardest of hardcore! Battle across the high seas to the highway!
SNES
Traverse a smoggy factory captured by aliens!
PLAYSTATION 2
Insane hovercycle giant mecha action!
NINTENDO DS
Harbor stage. Nuff said. (The best 2d action game stage ever)
Come on Konami and Wayforward + Virt on sound, I want a new HD 2.5D contra!
TheSonicRetard
Banned
Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, A
#46, #12, #25
All one code.
#46, #12, #25
All one code.
permutated
Banned
Don't care what people think, I've never ever enjoyed a single Contra level.
Ever.
Ever.
flintstryker
Banned
hmm.permutated said:
