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Let's talk about the new legendary Pokémon for Sun and Moon
- Thread starter Neiteio
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Wonder what the gimmick is this time. The moon legendary has a regular form (crescent moon in shame) mega evolves into a shape that resembles a or close to a full moon.I have a feeling there will be something with the phases of the moon
Probably has some relation to Crescelia
No idea on sun
Probably has some relation to Crescelia
No idea on sun
Funny enough, the color scheme is my favorite part about the lion. It looks like it was carved from ivory, marble, obsidian and gold.
In other words, it looks MAJESTIC.
Psychic is cosmic/stary/galactic, which the general theme of the legendaries are pulling from and most space Pokemon have a connection to Psychic typing. (Deoxy's, Jirachi, and so on.)
Sun is Fire, hot, white so that's a no brainier.
Fairy types in Pokemon are associated with the Moon (hence why Moonblast and Moonlight are Fairy Type moves) and fairy typically have wings. (Mega Altaria loses it's Flying typing in exchange for Fairy, but Altaria could still be considered having her flying typing countered by being dragon type.)
So Solgaleo is Fire/Psychic
Lunaala is Fairy/Psychic
ALTHOUGH! Lunaala could very well be Fairy/Dark. But the 3rd name registered alongside the two is Marshadow who could be the third legendary and would obviously be Dark type and potentially being the Eclipse Pokemon to go alongside the other two.
Sun is Fire, hot, white so that's a no brainier.
Fairy types in Pokemon are associated with the Moon (hence why Moonblast and Moonlight are Fairy Type moves) and fairy typically have wings. (Mega Altaria loses it's Flying typing in exchange for Fairy, but Altaria could still be considered having her flying typing countered by being dragon type.)
So Solgaleo is Fire/Psychic
Lunaala is Fairy/Psychic
ALTHOUGH! Lunaala could very well be Fairy/Dark. But the 3rd name registered alongside the two is Marshadow who could be the third legendary and would obviously be Dark type and potentially being the Eclipse Pokemon to go alongside the other two.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
All I know, is if the 'third' legendary doesn't represent a Lunar/Solar Eclipse I will be disappointed.
This is the 7th generation.
Olympia is the 7th gym leader and her town is located near the Sundial that is said to allow Pokemon to Mega Evolve. Not to mention her resemblance to Lunaala in terms of her cape, stars, and colors of her outfit.
Blaine is also the 7th gym leader and his town is a island much like the Alola region, located near a devastating volcano which ultimately exploded and destroyed the island. As well having a strong resemblance to Solgaleo in terms of colors of his outfit and the big white mustache.
Now what if the 7th gym leader in the Alola region is potentially a Dark type Gym Leader to go alongside Marshadow?
God Dayumm
Banned
The vampire will be Fairy/Psychic/Dark
Yes, triple types will be the new mechanic this gen!!
Yes, triple types will be the new mechanic this gen!!
Not really feeling either of the legendaries this time around tbh. Big step down from Xerneas and Yveltal and even Reshiram and Zekrom. I think they probably beat out Groudon/Kyogre and Dialga/Palkia, though.
Haven't really decided on which I like better. Solgaleo's design is cool, but (I hate to say it) it looks like a Digimon or Mega Man Battle Network boss, and something about its color scheme bugs me. Lunaala's design is unique and interesting, but I can't get over its lack of legs, the fact that its lower body is just a wedge looks goofy. Plus it looks like Count Bleck from Super Paper Mario...
Haven't really decided on which I like better. Solgaleo's design is cool, but (I hate to say it) it looks like a Digimon or Mega Man Battle Network boss, and something about its color scheme bugs me. Lunaala's design is unique and interesting, but I can't get over its lack of legs, the fact that its lower body is just a wedge looks goofy. Plus it looks like Count Bleck from Super Paper Mario...
Triple types seem a possibility this gen. I mean look at Litten, she has the potential to be a Fire/Dark or Fire/Poison type, but Litten could very well be Fire/Dark/Poison.
Solgaleo color scheme bugs me as well. I don't anything behind his head though, it's too many details.
Lunaala's is unique and interesting which I like and I agree the lack of legs and her lower body being a wedgie bugs me as well.
I'm in the same exact boat. It's also weird because I relate more to the moon then the sun, but I'm moving towards Sun version more. But I wouldn't be surprised to make the last minute decision and choose Moon.
kaisersephirot
Member
Team Moon
Just think about dark/fairy combination defensive:
2x
Poison
Steel
1/2x
Ghost
1/4x
Dark
Immune
Psychic
Dragon
So good, I need this combination
Just think about dark/fairy combination defensive:
2x
Poison
Steel
1/2x
Ghost
1/4x
Dark
Immune
Psychic
Dragon
So good, I need this combination
User 73706
Banned
SHOCKING NEWS: certain concepts have attributes ingrained into their cultural identity (such as purple, gold and white being associated with the moon, which - depending on embellishment - happens to typically appear as purple, gold, and white)
Matt Attack
Member
The Moon bat might be my favorite legendary from the past few generations. It looks really elegant. The Sun lion is kind of ugly to me, unfortunately. Don't care for his color scheme, or the plates on his legs.
My very first impression was "Oh it's just like Pokemon X/Y where you have one good looking legendary (lion) and one bad looking one (moon bat)"
But now I actually like the moon one a bit better. I think the lion one looks too generic. I'm starting to be really put off by his design. Sure he has a flair to the design which vowed me initially, but now that the dust is settled, I see there's not much to him. I think my main problem is that he looks too much like a lion, the maine and the body shape and the posture. Maybe if there was some otherworldly quality to him. Like if he was a skinny lion or had some huge alinen tail. Just something so he doesn't invoke so much generic lion-ness.
But now I actually like the moon one a bit better. I think the lion one looks too generic. I'm starting to be really put off by his design. Sure he has a flair to the design which vowed me initially, but now that the dust is settled, I see there's not much to him. I think my main problem is that he looks too much like a lion, the maine and the body shape and the posture. Maybe if there was some otherworldly quality to him. Like if he was a skinny lion or had some huge alinen tail. Just something so he doesn't invoke so much generic lion-ness.
They're from different regions. Why would people in New York care about legends from Japan that most people have never seen?
The lion just looks amazing to me:
- The regal color scheme and statuesque pose that makes him look like he's carved out of ivory, marble, obsidian and gold.
- The white-and-black contrast with gold and orange accents; the use of white space also conveys his enormity and conveys a sense of purity, like the sun itself.
- The way the clean line-work in his legs conveys musculature without adding extra bells and whistles to his design.
- The power conveyed by his billowing mane — I picture it spreading out like the rays of the sun when he fires a blast of scorching fire from his fanged maw!
The only thing I'm iffy on are the slipper-like feet, although I'm warming to them since they remind me of something a feudal lord would wear.
- The regal color scheme and statuesque pose that makes him look like he's carved out of ivory, marble, obsidian and gold.
- The white-and-black contrast with gold and orange accents; the use of white space also conveys his enormity and conveys a sense of purity, like the sun itself.
- The way the clean line-work in his legs conveys musculature without adding extra bells and whistles to his design.
- The power conveyed by his billowing mane — I picture it spreading out like the rays of the sun when he fires a blast of scorching fire from his fanged maw!
The only thing I'm iffy on are the slipper-like feet, although I'm warming to them since they remind me of something a feudal lord would wear.
Lord_Byron28
Member
ranking of cover legendary by generation:
Xerneas/Yveltal> Ho-oh/Lugia > Solgaleo/Lunaala > Groudon/Kyogre > Dialga/Palkai > Zekrom/Reshiram.
Lunaala being Dark/Fairy is what I'm betting on for typing.
Solgaleo is a bit trickier to guess for its typing. I could see them going against expectations and doing something like Steel/Psychic for it. Its mane and body looks like it could be part steel. I'm guessing for its signature attack it's mane will charge like a solar panel and then let out an energy based attack. I think Psychic could also fit it's theme with space as well. Fire is an obvious guess but I'm not 100% sure it's that since we already have one fire feline as the starter this gen but a Fire/Fairy would be an interesting typing.
Xerneas/Yveltal> Ho-oh/Lugia > Solgaleo/Lunaala > Groudon/Kyogre > Dialga/Palkai > Zekrom/Reshiram.
Lunaala being Dark/Fairy is what I'm betting on for typing.
Solgaleo is a bit trickier to guess for its typing. I could see them going against expectations and doing something like Steel/Psychic for it. Its mane and body looks like it could be part steel. I'm guessing for its signature attack it's mane will charge like a solar panel and then let out an energy based attack. I think Psychic could also fit it's theme with space as well. Fire is an obvious guess but I'm not 100% sure it's that since we already have one fire feline as the starter this gen but a Fire/Fairy would be an interesting typing.
We have thousands of mythological creatures from cultures all over the world. The series has been bouncing from regions in Japan (Gen 1-4) to different countries (Gen 5-7), with each place having different cultures and mythos. Why is it surprising that each pokemon region has their own mythological creatures (legendary pokemon)?
Anyway, my favorite of the two is easily the Pokemon Sun lion. The sun is a majestic, powerful force. Lions have, since antiquity, been associated with both majesty and power. Neiteio broke it down pretty damn well. Nearly all of Solgaleo (assuming that's its official name) design details just reinforce and refine its theme.
The bat looks cool, but some elements are just a bitch awkward (like the ornaments on the wings, and how the cosmic space is attached to them).
All in all, I like these better than most cover legendaries.
FunkyDealer
Banned
The Sun Lion looks like a knock-off Transformers Beast Wars toy, and the bat looks like a dreamcatcher come to life.
I'm not really sold on either. But then I've not liked a legendary since Platinum and its nightmare centipede.
I guess the lion looks a bit cooler, but I'm still leaning towards Moon. I'll have to wait and see which Pokémon are exclusive before deciding though.
I'm not really sold on either. But then I've not liked a legendary since Platinum and its nightmare centipede.
I guess the lion looks a bit cooler, but I'm still leaning towards Moon. I'll have to wait and see which Pokémon are exclusive before deciding though.
User 73706
Banned
You're playing these games from the perspectives of tweens / teenagers. Filling out the Dex and going on your adventures more or less keeps you confined to your own region's mythos, outside of instances like later games having older legendary trios to find post-E4 and whatnot.
The anime is basically just playing catch-up in perpetuity, so in a flimsier state as far as that goes.
Japanmanx3
Member
They both are dope to me. Can't decide yet on which version to get yet because of that.
There's a reason why Ash-Greninja is a prominent thing in the anime. It's happening!
Lord Azrael
Member
Psssh...nothin personnel...kid...
Already Torn
Banned
No way the moon legendary is dark. It gives off light!
Anyway, I'm also wondering where they come from. Some sort of aboriginee myth?
I was always planning on getting both because Sun and Moon are the best title names in the series, but after seeing both yesterday I thought the bat was embarrassingly bad. It's growing on me!
My guesses are Fire and Psychic. Maybe Psychic/Dragon.
The Maverick
Member
Both of them look awful. Particularly the moon one. I don't even like the names.
Already Torn
Banned
Ooh, good call. Fairy type it is then. Maybe Fairy/Flying?
Matt Attack
Member
I'm really hoping so. It would be funny if this thing couldn't at least use Moonblast.
Killer Queen
Banned
I feel entirely the opposite but bat is growing on me.
Killer Queen
Banned
Like others have said. If we get gen 4 remakes this gen I could see them being arceus related due to celestial and gold themes.
Ok, that made me laugh hard.
Anyway, I think both are interesting designs and I'm kinda glad they're different body shapes too. The whole moon wolf thing someone floated would've been cool too, I'm sure, but I'm happy they're quite different.
I'm definitely going Moon since I think Lunaala looks quite elegant and cool.
As for what they're based on, at the least, I know there's alchemical symbology with the Lion and the Sun (sun being a symbol for gold). Apparently a green lion eating the sun can also represent when a person's "consciousness [is] overwhelmed by violent, frustrated desires."
In regards to Lunaala, the moon is associated with silver, and from what I'm reading, bats apparently represent ambiguities. Also darkness (that seems to be obvious) and obscurity.
Anyway, I think both are interesting designs and I'm kinda glad they're different body shapes too. The whole moon wolf thing someone floated would've been cool too, I'm sure, but I'm happy they're quite different.
I'm definitely going Moon since I think Lunaala looks quite elegant and cool.
As for what they're based on, at the least, I know there's alchemical symbology with the Lion and the Sun (sun being a symbol for gold). Apparently a green lion eating the sun can also represent when a person's "consciousness [is] overwhelmed by violent, frustrated desires."
In regards to Lunaala, the moon is associated with silver, and from what I'm reading, bats apparently represent ambiguities. Also darkness (that seems to be obvious) and obscurity.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I love we're going full mecha
I'm team sun because you can never go wrong with lion mechas
said it before and will say it again, bat kinda reminds me of Darkwing from Kamen Rider Ryuki
I'm team sun because you can never go wrong with lion mechas
said it before and will say it again, bat kinda reminds me of Darkwing from Kamen Rider Ryuki