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LTTP: Flower thatgamecompany > Team ICO
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Dude Abides
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AAK said:
You put Dev 1 > Dev 2 in the thread title and expressed similar sentiment in the post. If you wanted to make a Flower appreciation thread you could have done so - I think people usually put "LTTP" in the thread title when they do that. If you make a dumb X > Y post you shouldn't complain when people who like Y express their disagreement.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Flower was a cool experience, I agree, but does anyone still think fl0w is remotely interesting? It was the first thing I bought on PSN a few months after the PS3 launched and I really don't think anyone would've cared about it if it wasn't one of like 3 games available for download at the time. It's one of the few software purchases I truly regret.
cosmicblizzard
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hey_it's_that_dog said:
Eh, it's okay. I got bored of it pretty quickly. It doesn't even hold a candle to Flower.
cosmicblizzard
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Gravijah said:
This is a gaming forum. One with particularly vocal anime haters no less.
Neuromancer
Member
I could not possibly disagree with the OP any more than I do.
John said:
It's cool man, I made my bed, gotta live w/ it. Flower is spectacular regardless.
Edit: As for the Miyazaki comment, it just spurred from the emotions I got while I played Flower.
In the last segment of Flower how the pollination and blowing of the petals brought back life and color to the urban life humans desired sort of reflected the themes I saw in the Miyazaki movies like Nausicaa/Mononoke how nature plays an integral part of humanity. But I'm sorry for saying "he would dream he could make Flower" comment I take it back. Sorry GAF
MvmntInGrn
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Loved flower. 
Won't bother making comparisons between Team ICO and thatgamecompany, all games buy either developer have been great experiences.
Won't bother making comparisons between Team ICO and thatgamecompany, all games buy either developer have been great experiences.
Even if you don't like them, garbage?Reilly said:
Parallax Scroll
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Hell no. I bought Flower based on GAF praise only to find out the game is fucking garbage.
abstract alien
Member
While I wouldn't call it garbage...I can't really disagree with someone who thinks it is. You don't really do anything in the game, at all. Hell, you might even say Heavy Rain has more game than Flower. Honestly, although I "get" what Flower attempted(and pulled off), it felt more like an extended tech demo than any sort of real gameplay demonstration so to speak.Parallax Scroll said:
Parallax Scroll
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The controls suck too.abstract alien said:
cosmicblizzard
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JesseZao said:
Do that many indie games even have demos (or at least good ones)? Sometimes developers can't justify the costs of putting one out, even moreso if it's a small company like TGC.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I love, love, love Flower; an emotionally breathtaking experience. I certainly understand your enthusiasm, OP.
A bad idea to pull in Team ICO and Miyazaki, though. Flower is unique.
A bad idea to pull in Team ICO and Miyazaki, though. Flower is unique.
akachan ningen
Member
Team ico games actually have substance. I felt ripped off by both flow and flower.
VillageNinja
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Flower is the gaming equivalent of a bag floating in the wind.
PkunkFury
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't get the love for this game. Sure it was fun and surreal to just circle around the field in the first level, but once I actually tried to play Flower as a game it was nothing short of frusterating. One of my least favorite PSN purchases
Also boggles my mind that so many people praise the motin controls in this, though i don't think my issues were with the motion itself, but more the game design
Also boggles my mind that so many people praise the motin controls in this, though i don't think my issues were with the motion itself, but more the game design
Scythesurge
Member
The way some of you guys talk about your experience with flower it sounds like we played different games.
A lot of the people that don't like it seem to think the entire game is the same as the first two levels or just didn't understand how the game works.
A lot of the people that don't like it seem to think the entire game is the same as the first two levels or just didn't understand how the game works.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
American Beauty is an amazing movie and you best realize.VillageNinja said:
Jex
Member
Maybe you'd have avoided scathing attacks if you didn't arbitrary compare Flower to Team Ico games and, ummm, Miyazaki?
Discussing a game, lttp, is one thing. Bringing up unwarranted and hard to justify comparisons is another.
It just distracts from the game you might want to talk about.
Discussing a game, lttp, is one thing. Bringing up unwarranted and hard to justify comparisons is another.
It just distracts from the game you might want to talk about.
TheThunder
Member
Never finished the game and probably never will since the controls were bad.
Call me back when they patch in the option to use the analog stick instead of the crappy sixaxis.
and I don't even want to humor you with your dumb thread title :lol
Call me back when they patch in the option to use the analog stick instead of the crappy sixaxis.
and I don't even want to humor you with your dumb thread title :lol
VillageNinja
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darkwing said:
Things with the emotional power of a screensaver also put me to tears, I'm with you.
MvmntInGrn
Member
I thought the controls worked really well. Only annoyance I had was the occasional flower that I had to go far out and turn around to get (because you could circle around it all you wanted, it would never catch it).
chuckywang
Neo Member
Why not bring Jonathan Blow into the conversation?
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Truth: Team ICO, thatgamecompany, and Hayao Miyazaki are awesome.
Well, the closest Miyazaki game is probably Ninokuni since it was animated by Ghibli, but not necessarily directed by Miyazaki.
Well, the closest Miyazaki game is probably Ninokuni since it was animated by Ghibli, but not necessarily directed by Miyazaki.
Alex Connolly
Member
I can't really say I'm too excited about Flower. I mean, it's nice and all, but it's a bit dull in the gameplay department. Much more enjoyed flOw because of those crazy little Cambrian-esque creatures.
Liabe Brave
Member
Flower has rudimentary gameplay, and relies for its impact almost wholly on emotion. This means reaction will inevitably be split between those for whom it works, and those who are unaffected (in the most literal sense). I have no beef with either the folks who've responded with praise, or those calling it a screensaver.
Both reactions seem possible.
But as a different mode of design, separated by a huge gulf in sensibility even from titles commonly invoked as "art" like Team ICO's, Flower is important and germane to any discussion of what video games are.
For me, the emotion worked--especially the contrast between the last two levels.
But as a different mode of design, separated by a huge gulf in sensibility even from titles commonly invoked as "art" like Team ICO's, Flower is important and germane to any discussion of what video games are.
TheShampion
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Wasn`t Flower just a small, cheap downloadable title? I am pretty sure even thatgamecompany would not go with that sort of hyperbole.
But I enjoyed it anyway. It was a fun game. That being said, Braid totally hops on its head, rewinds time, and bonks them again as far as actual game mechanics goes.
But I enjoyed it anyway. It was a fun game. That being said, Braid totally hops on its head, rewinds time, and bonks them again as far as actual game mechanics goes.
TheThunder
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They are as spot on as lindsay lohan behind a wheel.OnPoint said:
Way too floaty and loose and the sixaixs is as much of a motion controller as waving a stick in front of your wii.