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_dementia said:for some reason i loathe joey
I'm not a fan either... but I think that's how we're supposed to feel about him.
_dementia said:for some reason i loathe joey
Cornballer said:
I think it was something more like "I might be paid less, but I'm not a janitor."Wads said:"I may not make as much, but I'm still not a janitor."
_dementia said:I think it was something more like "I might be paid less, but I'm not a janitor."
Thanks, E. I keep on forgetting about The New Republic writeups.Eric WK said:Film critic Matt Zoller Seitz has been producing some of the best weekly Mad Men writing I've come across. I think they're worth adding to your weekly roundups, CB.
Here's this week's:
http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/77467/mad-men-review-the-suitcase
He misinterpreted Peggy's reason for squeezing Don's hand in the first episode. I didn't bother finishing the article. Could you suggest another one?Eric WK said:Film critic Matt Zoller Seitz has been producing some of the best weekly Mad Men writing I've come across. I think they're worth adding to your weekly roundups, CB.
Here's this week's:
http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/77467/mad-men-review-the-suitcase
Charred Greyface said:He misinterpreted Peggy's reason for squeezing Don's hand in the first episode. I didn't bother finishing the article.
Yeah, I thought the same.Charred Greyface said:He misinterpreted Peggy's reason for squeezing Don's hand in the first episode. I didn't bother finishing the article. Could you suggest another one?
I'm losing my shit over heresoul creator said:
they hated the Lane episode toodave is ok said:Didn't TNR give a horrible recap/review to 'The Chrysanthemum and the Sword' a few weeks ago?
Eh, I didn't care much for that episode either. It felt like a labored reminder for the audience to know how important Anna was to Don._dementia said:they hated the Lane episode too
beelzebozo said:wow, i think i really dislike don now?
Amir0x said:only now? Not after all the near endless disgusting things he has done throughout the other three seasons?
Don is a terrible human being.
beelzebozo said:well, to be honest, no, i never disliked him like i dislike him after watching him ream peggy this episode. i won't bother trying to explain why that is, beyond to say that i suppose a lot of the other things i can draw toward stupid lapses in judgment or human weakness or succumbing to temptation, like he had some major emotional problems or something. but him tearing down peggy seemed malicious and needlessly cruel, so yeah, i felt myself turn on him, finally.
beelzebozo said:well, to be honest, no, i never disliked him like i dislike him after watching him ream peggy this episode.
Nope. You should probably leave this thread if you haven't seen the episode.Salazar said:Haven't seen episode. Assuming this is figurative.
i_am_not_jon_ames said:Gotta disagree on the homophobe part. He kept Sal's secret until it intruded on business at which point I always felt like he treated Sal like he would any hetero employee who didn't just suck it up and do Lee Garner Jr. Plus, biggest client and all. No win situation for everyone.
beezlebozo said:your protracted, multiple-season hate for don makes me reconsider my position and feel a little less bad about him. thanks man!
Amir0x said:besides the other totally cruel and malicious times he's torn apart Peggy, he's also a homophobe, womanizer, horrible father and he frequently takes credit for the work others do.
I mean I'm glad you're finally joining the Don is an awful person bandwagon (since that's the way he has been written since day one), I was just a little surprised this was the magic episode to do that. He's done this exact same thing before, only at least this episode we can sort of understand where it's coming from since he's just lashing out (and drinking THIS hard) as a defense mechanism to avoid making that phone call.
Amir0x said:Hey, you can feel whatever you like about him, but largely ignoring the entire shows portrayal of Don suggests a misreading of the show that is not at all surprising coming from you.
giga said:Nope. You should probably leave this thread if you haven't seen the episode.
beelzebozo said:oh shit son, you got me pegged
hamchan said:See, I know Don is a really horrible person but why don't I dislike him?
I really really want him to succeed.
I took the "you people" to mean "ugh you fucking gays, fucking up my goddamn work life". Again, doesn't give a shit till it effects him.Amir0x said:Except he essentially implied to Sal he should have gone ahead and been raped for the job, and his muttering "you people..." was a whimpering shot at the idea that "how dare you reject gay sex, you're fucking gay!"
maharg said:In terms of homophobia, Don is a product of his time. I'd actually tend to think that he's pretty tolerant relative to his era. And I do agree that he'd be pissed at anyone for not sleeping with someone to further his (or the firm's) agenda. He thinks of sex as a transaction, and he has no concept of people treating it as anything else.
Doesn't excuse it, but it's worth remembering the show is set 45 years ago. Stonewall hadn't even happened yet.