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[mr2xxx]

The Palm Beach resort, which Trump has dubbed the “winter White House,” submitted applications to hire 21 cooks and 17 housekeepers on H-2B visas, according to Labor Department data first reported by The Washington Post.

Mar-a-Lago requested permission to hire foreign 40 waiters and waitresses last week.

Can’t make this stuff up folks.

://thehill.com/homenews/administration/396346-mar-a-lago-requesting-permission-to-hire-78-foreign-workers

 

[Dr. Claus]

I am curious, why? Why not hire Americans first? Do the foreign workers just have far better credentials than the locals that need jobs?

 

[Nobody_Important]

But.....but......MAGA! America FIRST remember?


At some point I will stop finding the hypocrisy of Trump and the GOP funny, but I hope its not anytime soon.

 

[Gander]

LOL I don't even need to say anything.

 

[bucyou]

Must be a good week for trump when lefties are clutching pearls at something that happens every year lol

 

[mr2xxx]

I am curious, why? Why not hire Americans first? Do the foreign workers just have far better credentials than the locals that need jobs?

It’s low skill labor, not anything requiring any type of credentials. It’s something they can easily find locally but Instead they want to outsource for cheaper immigrant labor.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Must be a good week for trump when lefties are clutching pearls at something that happens every year lol

Its hilarious to me when people will attack any and all members of "The Left" for any perceived injustice or hypocrisy whether real or imagined, but yet when Trump or a member of the GOP displays VERY REAL hypocrisy then its just hand waved away like its no big deal.


The mental gymnastics required are medal worthy.

 

[Papa]

People on H-2B visas are in the country legally, right?

 

[Vicetrailia]

Lets be honest with ourselves, trump supporters are running blind right now. I'm not sure what will wake them up.

MAGA

 

[Forthefuture]

I approve. What is more American than having minorities do something for little to no compensation. It must be cheaper than local workers and since we know Trump approves of legal immigrants (so long as they are from right countries) I dont see a problem in trying to be competetive. It is not like they are getting handouts right?

 

[manfestival]

People on H-2B visas are in the country legally, right?

Yes

 

[RiccochetJ]

But.....but......MAGA! America FIRST remember?


At some point I will stop finding the hypocrisy of Trump and the GOP funny, but I hope its not anytime soon.

They're having difficulties finding people in this country willing to take a temp job for the extra traffic for the holidays. This is exactly what H-2B is supposed to fulfill. I'm pretty sure they would be more than happy to hire America FIRST but no one is taking them up on it.

I don't get it. This is exactly what H-2B is designed to do. LEGALLY.

 

[Papa]

Yes

Then I don’t see how this is inconsistent with Trump’s policies. Seems like yet another case of people jumping the gun to nail Trump without considering the facts.

 

[MamaRice]

Then I don’t see how this is inconsistent with Trump’s policies. Seems like yet another case of people jumping the gun to nail Trump without considering the facts.

Many of his supporters would be unequivocally against this, I would imagine. Or rather, I would assume they would be, considered how much they support his supposed dedication to "America First" and how often he talked about other countries stealing our jobs. Hypothetically, what would you say to a trump supporter that expressed a strong disapproval of this, and saw it as going back on one of his promises?

I know a lot of people here like to say "things he said during his campaign and on twitter don't count", but come on. I don't think a lot of his supporters would agree with that.

 

[mr2xxx]

They're having difficulties finding people in this country willing to take a temp job for the extra traffic for the holidays. This is exactly what H-2B is supposed to fulfill. I'm pretty sure they would be more than happy to hire America FIRST but no one is taking them up on it.

I don't get it. This is exactly what H-2B is designed to do. LEGALLY.

This is a place that charges 200k to join, I'm sure they can raise the low wages they offer these types of employees and get some American ones and still make ends meet. Also it's not like this place is in some remote location, southern Florida has millions upon millions of people to pick from.

 

[highrider]

I’m a working chef and I can say that the food service industry would essentially cease to exist without Latin American workers. It’s actually not just a question of cheap labor, being a line cook is a tough job under tough conditions, few American workers can do it or want to. But yeah, hypocritical, but I’m sure they were the only people that applied for the job.

 

[MamaRice]

I’m a working chef and I can say that the food service industry would essentially cease to exist without Latin American workers. It’s actually not just a question of cheap labor, being a line cook is a tough job under tough conditions, few American workers can do it or want to. But yeah, hypocritical, but I’m sure they were the only people that applied for the job.

Everyone knows Americans won’t do these jobs. Jobless Americans will sit on the couch and literally say I’m not doing that job and then shit on Mexicans for stealing their jobs.

 

[Liberty4all]

There is a big difference between illegal aliens versus workers entering the country LEGALLY.

 

[rokkerkory]

This is a place that charges 200k to join, I'm sure they can raise the low wages they offer these types of employees and get some American ones and still make ends meet. Also it's not like this place is in some remote location, southern Florida has millions upon millions of people to pick from.

Trump is too cheap to do that.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

A little more info into the hiring process:

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for immigration restrictions, said he was “displeased” when Trump temporarily expanded the H-2B program in 2017. He said Mar-a-Lago is just using the program how other employers use it: as a way to avoid paying higher wages or offering more benefits to attract American workers.
“It’s a bullshit law written to ensure that employers don’t have to hire Americans,” said Krikorian, who normally applauds the president’s immigration agenda.

The bulletproof requirements to make sure American workers get first dibs:

Based on the paperwork submitted, the hiring manager fulfilled the minimum effort required by law to try to find American workers first: place an ad in the local newspaper for two days, notify past employees of the openings via US mail, and post the job notice in a visible place at the club for current employees to see. Employers are required to pay the average local wage for the advertised position. Mar-a-Lago offered $10.33 per hour for housekeepers, $13.43 for cooks, and $11.88 for servers (no tips).

Documents show that hiring managers at the Trump establishments made the minimum efforts required by law to recruit US workers.
While many businesses may truly struggle to find local workers and rely on foreign workers to fill slots, the hiring practices at Trump’s properties certainly are out of step with his “America First” rhetoric and policies.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/9/17548776/trump-h-2b-guest-workers

 

[TheShadowLord]

I am curious, why? Why not hire Americans first? Do the foreign workers just have far better credentials than the locals that need jobs?

I wanna say cheap labor is the reason but I don't have the facts to back it up

 

[highrider]

I am curious, why? Why not hire Americans first? Do the foreign workers just have far better credentials than the locals that need jobs?

Americans don’t apply for these jobs. It’s not even a question of competence.

 

[Mohonky]

Trump: Im going to allow this

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Americans don’t apply for these jobs. It’s not even a question of competence.

It's not that people don't apply for these jobs. The requirements before you can pull job listings and move on to asking DHS for the visasa are laughable.

 

[Vicetrailia]

Trump prefers Chinese steel and cheap workers, bottom line is business is business, and catering to audiences for political reasons is what it is.

 

[Arkage]

There is a big difference between illegal aliens versus workers entering the country LEGALLY.

Trump also wants to restrict legal immigration by no longer letting gang violence/domestic violence be used as criteria for asylum seekers despite long standing policy and being a large percentage of what asylum seekers are fleeing from. Oh and also the Muslim ban, which also denies legal visas to students/workers/tourists seeking to enter the USA due to "concerns" about their country of origin, all of which are all unambiguously bullshit and/or hypocritical. (Fun fact: Saudi Arabia isn't included in the ban despite that being the origin of most of the 9/11 hijackers!)

So yes, there is a difference between illegal immigrants and legal workers entering the country. But Trump is fighting off both, because they're brown and his white voters don't like that color. But he'll hire them himself just the same if it saves some cash.