George Oscar Bluth II
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BlackNMild2k1
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If this show has to crash and burn, I hope it's on a grand scale enough to get Disney to push Marvel TV under the Marvel Studios banner and oust Perlmutter so that Feige can just run the whole live action MCU offering.
And yet, it got better when he left.
The only thing I see happening is Loeb getting the boot and Buck not doing any Marvel again. This could also be bad for Marvel TV as ABC will just end it all and have Marvel be Digital and Freeform only.
Father_Brain
Banned
that will never happen, lol
torre_avenue
Banned
Loeb's not going to leave and neither is Perlmutter as a result of this.
It'll definitely weaken Perlmutter's rank in Disney considering everything behind "Inhumans" was because of him, but he's not getting fired unless he gets convicted of this:
And he's apparently not getting convicted for that, so he's going to be in charge of Marvel for a bit.
Loeb I feel might get the ax, Buck is mos def getting the Bye Felicia treatment.
Loeb isn't going anywhere. He oversees like a dozen shows, and most of them are pretty successful.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
They just need to convince Perlmutter now that his pet project has been brought to fruition, it's maybe time he take a step back and enjoy the benefits of simply being a shareholder with an "senior executive producer" credit, and allow someone else to take over direct day to day handling of the decision making for the direction of the TV side of things.
Loeb I think just needs more oversight and someone with an eye for talent and story to have the ability to step in when needed and keep things on track.
Buck gotta be bounced. blacklisted off the Disney lot.
Jest Chillin
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Lol @ the idea that Perlmutter can be convinced of anything. You don't get to his position and rep from being easily manipulated or easily coerced. They're gonna let dude rock until he retires or is found guilty of some truly heinous stuff within the company. Because it isn't worth the bs they would have to deal with otherwise.
I'd say I'm a casual fan of Inhumans, and yeah, this is bleak. It was obvious this wasn't going to be great when they announced it with so little time before it airs, but this sounds like a worst case scenario.
Hopefully this and Iron Fist has Disney aware they have a quality problem brewing in Marvel TV. At least the reviews for defenders have been generally positive.
clay_ghost
Member
Tbf, he is reaching retirement age soon, at most we get another bomb for the TV side ( Hopefully not runaways) before he hand over his role to another.
Are you joking? Certain businessmen never retire. He's only in his 70s. Stan Lee is 94 and he's still shilling bad ideas to Japan and companies are buying them.
clay_ghost
Member
I always figured Stan Lee have a hands-off approach to marvel and am doing his own stuff. I guess I am wrong for assuming that others will be like him and half retire to do whatever else.
Stan Lee has nothing to do with Marvel any more. He has his own production company Pow Entertainment and has actively been developing crappy shit targeting other markets for years now. In particular he seems to be able to sell ideas to Japan for anime and manga!
GuitarAtomik
Member
It's extremely depressing to me. Especially after getting my hopes inflated with the AoS and comics wide buildup of Inhumans and the original movie announcement. For it to end up like this is just... T__T
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Is it too much to hope that Ike decides to take a step back for whatever reason and let someone more "capable" take over and give us what we want?
I don't care if Disney is able to offer him something more valuable than a hands on position in the TV side... they were able to pull him off movies, so I don't see why they can't just sit him down in a penthouse office on Mt. Disney's Money Vault and tell him they are going in a different direction.
Or maybe he just feels that he accomplished what he wanted in Inhumans and wants to kick back in the board room on his yacht and drink scotch all day... I don't know....
I know i'm not the only one that would like Marvel Studio's to just handle the whole MCU and for Ike to just retire w/ an honorary "executive producer" credit on everything going forward. I'm sure it's not at all likely to happen, but that's the same thing that was said about Spider-man in the MCU.
Jest Chillin
Member
The thing is, Disney only pulled the movies away because Feige was doing extremely well and he requested it. Taking TV away from Perlmutter and Loeb would be harder because they'd be left with nothing and I seriously doubt Feige would want to add TV to his responsibilities. Joss could have possibly done it but he's bowed out and I don't think his Brother and Sister-in-law have done well enough on AoS to earn Disney's absolute trust (if they even want more than just the one show).
Honestly, it is too much to hope. At least at this moment.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
fuck me up Wasp
That odd moment where you realize Evangeline Lilly seems to have put on more muscle for playing Wasp than Gal Gadot did for playing Wonder Woman.
Nothing against Gadot, though. It's the performance that matters.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
They're crossing over at some point (IIRC?) so makes sense.
Just struck by the insinuation that AoS seems to have its own continuity which Inhumans is adapting to, as opposed to the larger MCU. It's akin to saying Ant-Man is set within "Thor Continuity". It's not a big deal, the wording just struck me as strange.
Glass Rebel
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I think it's a (mostly) unspoken fact by now that all the platforms have their own continuity but aren't completely separate from each other. They will refer to the movies to varying degrees but only have connections to each other. The Netflix shows are separate, the ABC shows are separate, Freeform shows are gonna be separate and if Hulu makes another TV show it's gonna be connected to Runaways. Obviously, some connections work better like how Agent Carter is probably the only show that can be placed into the movie continuity (afaik).
That said, it's still fuck Scott Buck and fuck Jeph Loeb.
That said, it's still fuck Scott Buck and fuck Jeph Loeb.
darkhunger
Member
The notion of Loeb getting fired is pretty silly. The key objective of a TV studio exec is to get networks to buy your shows and this guy is probably one of the most successful exec at that today.
I guess when your studio is pumping at least a half dozen shows out at once it becomes much harder to QC everything though.
She was already buffed up in Ant-Man and even in Lost, I guess it just says that in general she is in great shape.
That's a good point. Plus, The Hobbit, I guess!
Remember The Hobbit?
Evangeline played an elf called Tauriel.
Remember Tauriel?
She had a bow, I think.
All I remember was Ian acting against green screens.
Glass Rebel
Member
Not even strafer remembers Evangeline Lily in that movie.
That was also the only show produced by Kevin Feige.
It is pretty clear Marvel Studios as ran by Feige treats the TV MCU media just as much as canon as the DCEU treats the CW DC shows.
As in...not at all.
DrROBschiz
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GuitarAtomik
Member
I seriously doubt Feige wants to take on the TV burden. Someone else would get the reigns if Ike and Loeb were kicked off.
Glass Rebel
Member
Last time I checked, Marvel Studios was like 50 people that assemble production crews for each of their 6+ movies they have in development at all times.
They are not suddenly gonna take on TV duties.
They are not suddenly gonna take on TV duties.
Guys...Marvel Studios is a movie studio. They don't deal in television production work, and won't suddenly take it up within that particular banner.
Agent Carter.
Agent Carter.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
I'm just waiting for the day Feige says "fuck it" and makes the shows officially not canon by using the characters but with new actors, costumes and stories.
It's probably gonna happen.
It's probably gonna happen.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Three episodes left, and I gotta say I'm kinda enjoying Iron Fist here. This Scott Buck is Hitler narrative that's especially infected Inhumans discussions now is kinda being undermined the farther I go here. I bet I'd like most things if the Internet didn't try its best to remind me that they are awful.
No shame in fuckin fat chicks either. You like what you like.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
And ya know what, I'll be fine with it
I got my dope ass content with JJ, Luke Cage, Daredevil, and SHIELD
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Yes Agent Carter is the only show Marvel Studios/Feige had any involvement in. Which makes sense as it is the only show that actually seems to with the movies.
As for the Studios thing, I mean I get some thinking Marvel Studios COULD take over the shows (even though as stated that is likely never going to happen) if you use the Lucasfilm model.
Lucasfilm produces both the Star Wars live action movies and the animated tv shows, with the same group of producers and executives on both. And as such they actually flow into each-other a lot more seamlessly than any of the Marvel shows do with the films.
...the fuck?
GuitarAtomik
Member
It'd be nice if they somehow managed to bring these guys back now that they're spin off imploded.