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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster Discussion Thread
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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Trust me, I'd be championing Scarlet Witch as hard as I do for Star-Lord if she wasn't impacted by the ban.
Nobody wants a Black Widow movie. That would be a massive waste of resources for Marvel. Out of all the Avengers she is the most boring and least interesting. Also Scarlet Johansson has been in movies like what we would see like Lucy. Nobody wants that.
Yeah I don't understand that. Same can be said for Daredevil and/or Iron Fist. The MCU is tied to the Netflix series which have been incredible successful and the Defenders is coming out a month before the game drops. That's a missed opportunity.
While I'd be fine with most, I'd be ecstatic if Songbird made it in. Maybe by some miracle we'll get a female Runaways rep considering their show will start airing next year.
Molly Hayes would be legit.
Doctrine Dark
Member
This is another one I assumed would be a given. Between Loki, BP, and BW, I was willing to bet that all of them would've been on the base roster.
Damn, we were way off about a lot.
People keep saying this but that's super false? If you're going movies only characters you still have Sif, Black Widow, Hela, Frigga, Rescue, Scarlett Witch, Peggy Carter, Agent 13, Wasp (two wasps, in fact), Red She-Hulk, Maria Hill, Ellen Brandt, Nebula, Irani Rael, Bereet, Cassie Lang (Stature/Sting), F!Thor, Ayo, Ancient One, Tina Minoru, Ayesha, Mainframe, Aleta, Silk, Spinnerete, Valkyre, Malice, Okoye, Shuri/Black Panther, Nightshade and Proxima Midnight.
If you went to tv shows you'd have Quake, Mockingbird, Elektra, Jessica Jones, Slinghsot, Madame Hydra, Nico Minoru, Madame Masque and so many others
That's not even counting characters that aren't in the MCU but not affiliated with the Fox "ban" like She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman, Songbird, Moon Girl + Devil Dinosaur, Spider-Woman (Gwenn), America, Hawkeye (the cool one) and a bunch more I could think of.
Even if the excuse is "MCU!" that's just not true.
what even is viable if it's not moveset potential
Yeah I still think my list is a bit more plausible. I doubt Meio is playable or base or they would have revealed him in the last batch like Thanos. And Gamora got a render, Meio or Dahren didn't. Nothing really going for him being playable.
Also those reveals don't really match up with the pattern of reveals we've seen thus far, but I can see them spreading them out because the second batch was after months of nothing. Also waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too light for D23/EVO, especially to show an old build they had at E3. IMO:
Early or Pre-D23: Story trailer featuring Spider-Man/RE convergence and characters as you described. It's the most appropriate venue (vs. EVO) for Story trailer and a Story (or cinematic one) has always preceded the gameplay. New characters playable at show. They reveal half of the remaining new characters (I'm iffy on this because I think the number of characters left to reveal is like 1.5 reveals worth, going off of how many they have revealed in the past, but there's so many events we know they'll have a presence at).
EVO: Same playable build from D23 at EVO. Sunday night features either new gameplay trailer (or this comes out during E3) or a modes trailer with tease of one or two of the last few characters left to reveal, probably FGC-relevant ones like Jedah, and beta announcement if we're super lucky (but IMO unlikely, would have likely been a pre-order incentive long ago). Would be neat if they showed more of the characters that didn't match up with the original 28 leak at EVO finals to get the crowd back but these things and trailers are made far in advance of this stuff. We also don't know yet if there's a Marvel panel at EVO or not.
SDCC: Only a week later so I don't expect much, and we don't know if it will be part of a Marvel Games panel or not, but I doubt it. Likely same build as D23/EVO with a trailer. They might save either the gameplay trailer or a modes trailer (likely modes) for SDCC, but I don't expect anything big.
Gamescom: As you described. They've been pretty proactive when it comes to DLC announcements, I wonder if they'll announce the rest by this time or keep the remaining 4 to be revealed after launch, but I'd rather know sooner.
I am somewhat disheartened by the idea that the majority of the DLC characters already being in the game in some form, though. If DLC is supposed to extend a game, and you label it as all-new, it should feel a bit more like that.
SDCC is the biggest comic book related event between the game's reveal last December and its release this September. I don't think the event will pass without character reveals -- it's a really, really big deal. Six MvC3 characters were revealed at SDCC in 2010, and Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 itself was revealed at SDCC 2011.
christiankid7
Member
Every gameplay trailer but 1 has teased a DLC character at the end of the trailer, so should we expect that pattern to continue?
Gameplay trailer 1: tease at Ultron Sigma
Gameplay trailer 2: Sigma DLC
Gameplay trailer 3: Black Panther DLC
Gameplay trailer 1: tease at Ultron Sigma
Gameplay trailer 2: Sigma DLC
Gameplay trailer 3: Black Panther DLC
Additionally SFxT was actually revealed at SDCC (Not at E3, not at EVO) as well, so it's big for Capcom too. I'm with you on this.
christiankid7
Member
Could D23 show the Marvel half of a single gameplay trailer, then Evo show the Capcom half of a gameplay trailer?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I thought She-Hulk would have a good shot getting in MVCI because she's only Marvel character from UMVC3 that aren't under Fox Ban. I was so wrong on that matters despite that I already expected her being gone from the beginning.
I'm pretty sure she would be in the game regardless.
Same here. Loki and Black Panther are two characters I actually thought would be in base roster and I was surprised that it's not in case. I guess they are quite popular so they figure that they would be better off as DLC since people would buy them.
Evo is never really a big reveal event for these things, I'm not sure why people expect it to be. If you think they'll show something at EVO and nothing at SDCC, you're bugging.
christiankid7
Member
SDCC would make sense for another story trailer of some kind.
BronsonLee
Member
Considering they put Panther in the DLC crew I'm thinking Loki's in there too
Trying to avoid trade-ins n boost sales by putting the popular peeps in there, unlike SFV which keeps putting in wack nerds
Trying to avoid trade-ins n boost sales by putting the popular peeps in there, unlike SFV which keeps putting in wack nerds
They been dumping characters and story stuff together.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Oddly enough Defenders is getting the MVCI cover so I suspect we might get DareDevil or Iron Fist eventually.
Not just wack nerds, complete unknown wack nerds haha.
christiankid7
Member
I suppose there's nothing stopping them from releasing tons of stuff in July for these events.
Well Ryce put it well.
BronsonLee
Member
And I'm cool with peeps like Ed and all
But the game launched bad and didn't do great since, you gotta shore it up with the crew, they should've learned from SF3 but nah they hosed it
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I wonder how do y'all feel if we are going to get 36-40 characters, rather than 32-34? I know I would be escalated if we did.
They still have to review other contents in Marvel Vs. Capcoom: Infinite even I think it might be better off being reveals in August tho.
They still have to review other contents in Marvel Vs. Capcoom: Infinite even I think it might be better off being reveals in August tho.
BassForever
Member
Just going off of ryce's leaked list + zero
Drop nova and red arremer for she hulk and c viper
How much happier are yall with the roster?
Drop nova and red arremer for she hulk and c viper
How much happier are yall with the roster?
Less?
BassForever
Member
Do you not have an issue with the amount of female characters? Or would you rather have more new females over veterans?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's obvious at the point.
D23 - MVCI information
EVO - SFV information
SDCC - 2nd batch of MVCI information
I wouldn't drop anyone, but I would add Nina and She-Hulk top of the roster then someone should be slightly happier.
Yeah, this is my stance. Why even bring up the idea of replacing, when you could just add. It would make me less happy to replace Nova and Red Arremer as well at this point, regardless of who takes their place.
Getting Nina at all will win me over.
christiankid7
Member
^
I could see it going like this
D23: MvCI reveals/new story trailer
Evo: SFV news, MVCI new build with d23 characters showcased on stream
SDCC: More reveals/next story trailer.
C. Viper is like an excitement vaccuum to me so in this exact situation I would actually be less happy.
Now, if you were to replace Viper with Tron Bonne, Ammy or Trish (or a newcomer, heaven forbid!)? Then we'd be in business.
Nova is also one of the few interesting fringe picks on the Marvel side, so I'm not even sure if I want him gone. ��
EDIT: Hey wait a minute, Red Arremer is Firebrand! I don't want him gone either! ��
BronsonLee
Member
Dick Rider is popular so he's not going anywhere
I would probably take any other character on earth instead of Firebrand, he's goddamn useless
I would probably take any other character on earth instead of Firebrand, he's goddamn useless
Well I think SDCC is going to the next big info drop. Firebrand is one of my favorite characters and Nova looks great
DR2K
Banned
That ban is arbitrary. Marvel has complete control of their properties in media besides movie. Even though there's a special exception with the Maximoff twins.
lucebuce12
Member
I would also take any other character on earth instead of Firebrand, he's goddamn useless
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
How can he be that useless since he have unblockable tech and I think he made to top 16 few times?
BronsonLee
Member
Main someone else~!
o/
Doesn't matter I don't like em and it seems like roster space for this game is inexplicably tight, he goes, Arthur goes
tbh the Marvel side while super light on females is OK. The Capcom side is basura
Yeah, Marvel just chooses not to allow them. That's the main problem here.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Wait so Venom is not DLC?
christiankid7
Member
Not that I don't think this could be the case (especially because of MvCI's casual focus), but Marvel/Disney as of recent has shifted a lot of it's attention to D23 for new reveals. I agree there might not be a pre-GF trailer necessarily at EVO (doesn't happen every time), but something substantial has to hit at or around that time and it wouldn't make much sense to drag the E3 build to two simultaneous events.
Also, different times. MvC3 had it's own goddamn panel at SDCC, now what few Capcom panels we do get are relegated to reveals of new costumes and stages for SFV. The company is a fraction of it's former size and we see that all in the marketing too. Plus, MvC3 was much further out from launch and had that many more characters left to reveal so they could focus more at SDCC. Not really the case now.
I imagine a new Story trailer would go over real sweet at the SDCC booths though. If anything, I think we might get the full cast at least announced in July and there be nothing but a character-complete VS build at Gamescom.
EDIT: I don't think we'll see a SFV Season 3 at EVO because they're not even done Season 2, right?
DR2K
Banned
I'd replace Viper with Trish as there's only onc DMC rep and 2 SF reps. I also think Viper is going to get added into SFV so they're keeping SF reps at a minimum.
She Hulk called MVC4 in MVC3, she deserves to be in. Game is sorely lacking grapplers from what I can see thus far as well.
BronsonLee
Member
If someone has a VO in SFV I think they're coming
So:
Abel
Sakura
C. Viper
So:
Abel
Sakura
C. Viper
lucebuce12
Member
I'd forgotten all about it but I'm still salty about Rashid also not making it in.
He's a Middle-Eastern character (helps with the diversity), is a SFV rep, is a generally cool character and has a moveset that seems like it could be modified to fit Mahvel very easily.
He's a Middle-Eastern character (helps with the diversity), is a SFV rep, is a generally cool character and has a moveset that seems like it could be modified to fit Mahvel very easily.
Scarlet Witch has a legit excuse for not being there at launch. The others, not so much.
It's not legit.