In the video towards the end the companions have assigned targets, but how you do that is not shown. As for issuing commands, unknown.
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MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA Gameplay Series #1: Combat
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In the video towards the end the companions have assigned targets, but how you do that is not shown. As for issuing commands, unknown.
The Lamonster
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I had not heard this before. In fact, I've never heard of any game doing this.
Pretty cool
Yeah, I did the same. It was a blast and my favorite way to play the game.
From what I understand, there will be some kind of tactics system a la Dragon Age, whereby you can set up Drack, say, to detonate a specific attack by Cora whenever she uses it, for example, but that's going to be an 'if/and/or/then' system (under the hood, at least) rather than it being you as commander telling them to do that in the heat of battle when reacting to the enemy.
The real-time squad commands seem to be limited to 'attack this target' or 'move to cover' or 'move to point' - all of which were handled by the d-pad (or keyboard) in previous games.
Someone noted that in the recent footage, at one point the enemy had icons over its head indicating the squad had been commanded to attack it, and the icons showed what they were going to be attacking with. These icons weren't present when the squad were attacking in other bits of the same video. So it may be that when you direct your squad to target x and you have previously set up perferred tactics, these icons will show up if those tactics are being used. Those icons are a good idea, giving you a chance to react to what comes next. But it seems if this is the case, rather than you being the commander issuing orders to your squad, you'll be the follower, reacting to what your squad do off their own back.
I'll try to find the tweet that confirmed no tactical pause (other than the weapon wheel) - and I'll post it when I do.
Edit: Here -
John Petrucci
Member
Indeed. If this is true (it does appear to be) it would kill a ton of my hype for this game.
Well there we go, that tweet above confirms it. Incredibly disappointing.
That seems to be the plan.
Cheers, firmly clenching the cheeks until the next video.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It seems like basically any and all time slow down has gone outside of a pause. You just do anything in real time, and they probably have some heavy assistance mechanics for targeting. Basically a lot like ME3 multi rather than mass effect 3 singleplayer. Which I guess could have partly been expected since these guys were in charge of the multi rather than the single player.
MadYarpen
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Personally I don't like to play with face editor, and usually I use default look, so I'd prefer it to be good
Vin_Mistborn
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. We'll be able to tell our squadmates to target a specific enemy, but it might just be in a different way from the original trilogy.
Vin_Mistborn
Member
Personally I don't like to play with face editor, and usually I use default look, so I'd prefer it to be good
Welp, there are other presets in the character creation, so even if you don't like the default Ryders, chances are one of them will look good to you.
John Petrucci
Member
Also according to the devs it seems like it's going to be really easy this time to share created Ryders with other people so they can use them as well.
The Artisan
Member
this game's release date is too close to persona 5's
Should be at least 1 video / week from now until release, afaik.
The Strokes
Banned
Literally check a few posts above you.
For me that's really not that big of a nitpick, I found it incredibly distracting at times, I get that it's in essence and the priority should be the RPG elements of it, but micromanaging in the middle of combat isn't my style, I'd rather be able to make decisions on the go with a more dynamic system that allows me to do that. .
It's gone. Hope you like 3rd person shooters!
FantasyFreak07
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I didn't realize how close they were until last night! It's gonna be difficult to juggle the two for sure.
Anyways, I love how fast the combat looks.
Yep, but at the moment it looks like it'll be along the lines of how you could in previous games tell your squad to focus on target x in real time via the d-pad (or key on kb), rather than stopping and issuing a specific power-based command.
I think some people are upset by its removal because it was entirely optional anyway. The system was designed originally to accommodate both play styles - those who wanted to pause and command their squad tactically, and those who wanted to just run and gun and do it all in real time ignoring the squad to a large degree.
The presence of the tactical pause-squad commands system didn't stop anyone from not using it if they didn't want to, so it's a strange argument to make.
The Strokes
Banned
But I didn't make any argument against it? I simply said that if they're taking that out for players that do use it, there might be implementing a more practical way to manage the squad but maintaining that degree of control over the AIs.
John Petrucci
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This makes it seem like control over biotic detonations, etc. might be being taken out of the player's hands to an extent and are more about chance depending on what the AI of your squadmate decides to do at any given time. For instance, I liked it in ME2 where I could lift someone, pause the game, and tell Samara to Throw them into a wall.
Of course I don't know exactly how it works in MEA. Just wondering how it might work, we'll find out Friday. Hopefully I'm misunderstanding and we somehow have control over what power a squadmate uses at certain moments. Anyone have any idea how things could work in real time with having control over team executed detonations?
I will find a way to manage... somehow... but I can't let either of those two slip by at launch.
My apologies. I didn't read your original reply in that way.
This is my understanding of the implications as well. But like you, I'm eager to see what they have done with squad commands because there might be a really good system to compensate for its loss that still makes you feel like the commander of a squad who has control over her team.
Next Friday most likely.
LookAtMeGo
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Ummmmm. Yup. Looks fannfriggintastic. I need this game in my life.
The Artisan
Member
same here.
i'm definitely getting more and more excited for the game as we get closer to it which is annoying me because i told myself i'll just buy mass effect andromeda later and not at launch xD
i definitely won't p5 slip passed me at launch, i got the collector's edition preordered
and i would've preordered the collector's edition or some special edition of mass effect 4 if it didn't do that stupid bullshit with its collector's edition, i'll be fine with the regular
prag16
Banned
Presumably noon eastern time this Friday. Additionally, there was a preview event last week in which press had a few hours with the game. Embargo on coverage from that is Thursday at some point.
Yeah, I'm still super hyped, and in day one. But this does put a bit of a damper on things for me. Surveying the area, picking targets, assigning powers, etc. Loved that aspect. Yeah, the "pre-aiming" could be sorta cheap sometimes but meh.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
This game has never looked better. Will be playing on Scorpio day one.
John Petrucci
Member
Yea same here. Not saying I'm not getting it day one or not willing to give it a chance. Hype is still high
Just really disappointed for the first time with confirmed news about MEA.Hopeful that the next combat vid will make me feel like I'll still really enjoy the combat without pausing/surveying area/issuing out commands. It's always been the combat that had me playing dozens of different ME2 and ME3 playthroughs.
What if it doesn't get a Scorpio patch?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It doesn't necessarily need one. There's going to be a PC version, They can just use some of those assets/settings.
Either way, it will still run the game better than base XB1.
I guess if there is one aspect that is a bit of a bummer that I've learned is you only have 3 active skills at a time.
I believe I read that the combat was handled by the team that did the ME 3 multiplayer. This makes sense given the use of the "blink" evasion and jet packs we saw in the trailer...and they were really nice additions in multiplayer that didn't exist in story mode.
I believe I read that the combat was handled by the team that did the ME 3 multiplayer. This makes sense given the use of the "blink" evasion and jet packs we saw in the trailer...and they were really nice additions in multiplayer that didn't exist in story mode.
Apparently, there's a way around this. Likely has something to do with the profiles you can swap between with the radial menu.
More about CC, answer to first question was "Yes".
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833749930888015872
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833718430666805249
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833749930888015872
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833718430666805249
More about CC, answer to first question was "Yes".
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833749930888015872
https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/833718430666805249
Huh. So... there will be a LOT fewer unique player characters? No mixing and matching parts.
Vin_Mistborn
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Basically, the way it seems to work is, you can make 4 "Favorite" loadouts. Each of these loadouts will have 3 skills of your choosing. You can change between these 4 favorites during combat, essentially giving you 12 skills to use in combat.
I think profiles are different. I vaguely remember seeing that those can only be changed on the ship or at those "drop ship" locations (I forget what they're called
)Yabberwocky
Member
Awesome. DA:I had a lot of weird facial proportions with its presets, so starting from a scan sounds great.
John Petrucci
Member
Has a dev confirmed whether or not we have to pause to change favorites? Being able to cycle through them without pausing obviously would be ideal. Would be pretty surprised if we have to pause to change favorite loadout especially considering they're taking away tactical pause. Would seem counter intuitive to the pace they seem to be trying to make the player play with.
I think it was Jayde Rossi who was used from FemRyder, not sure about BroRyder.
Edit: Jillian was Liara
Barrow Roll
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Jillian Murray is the face of Liara.
Vin_Mistborn
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That I'm not sure about. I don't remember seeing any devs talking about whether or not pausing is required to change between favorite loadouts. We'll probably see in one of the upcoming gameplay videos.
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