From what someone who I know is under Polaris.... from what he said on twitter, he is fine and he is smaller then other channels. So all their people are automatically managed state it seems aka.... good to go.
No, but it is using content that you have no rights to be making money from.
Flagged seems like it's such an horrible big word these days it just means that YouTubers are not getting revenue anymore from these videos. Nothing is blocked, accounts are not penalized. It's just whining for money really.
Im all for it.
Exactly. I have a claim on a video that used a bit of a DmC trailer.And it's not only Let's Plays being affected by this. It's potentially any type of gaming-related video that uses any kind of footage
Appreciate the responseDepends on how good the monetization options are on other sites; youtube seems to be the king on this.
Then again, other sites still have to obey the DMCA in america; it's just that youtube took the dmca and added their own systems to make publishers control of their work easier.
so you think Vinny from giantbomb playing through dark souls shouldn't get any money for doing it?
or that a tournament streamer shouldn't be able to earn something out of his stream?
That's good to hear. A lot of quality youtubers are partnered with Polaris and it would be sad to see their videos get screwed up.
Depends on how good the monetization options are on other sites; youtube seems to be the king on this.
Then again, other sites still have to obey the DMCA in america; it's just that youtube took the dmca and added their own systems to make publishers control of their work easier.
No, they shouldn't. Was that a trick question? I feel like it was too easy.
Im all for it.
They dont own the content and some have made a LOT of money from doing it.
Suprised that its gone on for this long to be honest.
lol. Livelihoods. Okay.
It was a bubble. Anyone who thinks you could make a profit off of playing a developers game forever was daft. Take those goofy voices and ridiculous personas and head to Hollywood if you're that obsessed with being on camera.
You don't need/aren't entitled to the game footage to talk about or have a monetized video about gaming. If you want to monetize then there should be an option to license the content for a percentage from the developer.
Exactly. I have a claim on a video that used a bit of a DmC trailer.
No, they shouldn't. Was that a trick question? I feel like it was too easy.
That's how it was from 2006 to 2010 and there was already quality video game content. No YouTuber was complaining about not getting paid for work.
so you think Vinny from giantbomb playing through dark souls shouldn't get any money for doing it?
or that a tournament streamer shouldn't be able to earn something out of his stream?
So you don't think informative gaming videos should exist? You want everything to be PR-approved?
It is good but at the same time, why does that partnership program get a free pass when countless others do not?
This seems like a complex issue and so far threads about it are just each side trying their hardest to troll the other.
I think the bottom line is that this is something that can't continue to exist unchecked/uncorrected. I respect the hustle though.
So are the Rifftrack guys not allowed to make money because they're talking about movies? How about Mystery Science theater?
More over, this doesn't only effect just Let's Players. People who make reviews on Youtube are also getting claims.
You don't have to like Let's but they're very good as informing the consumer.
So are the Rifftrack guys not allowed to make money because they're talking about movies? How about Mystery Science theater?
More over, this doesn't only effect just Let's Players. People who make reviews on Youtube are also getting claims.
You don't have to like Let's but they're very good as informing the consumer.
No, they shouldn't. Was that a trick question? I feel like it was too easy.
There are plenty of sites out there to get such info.
Lets punish all the "lets play" youtubers. Including those with genuine content and a serious amount of work put into production qualities. They're scum for making all that undeserved money.
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This is fucking bullshit. A mod I worked on last year got some really decent exposure because of Let's Play channels, and something we were hoping to capitalize on with our debut indie game as it's essentially free advertising. I get that bigger companies might have their jimmies rustled, but it really screws over the tiny teams who were able to get a platform and a voice through these channels when they couldn't rely on getting attention off the backs of traditional games journalism.
Every single person I know in indie development considered streamers/LP's a godsend and encourages it because otherwise, you may just get buried underneath the volume of games that exist out there.
Really bad news.
So why shouldn't that apply to YouTube?
This is fucking bullshit. A mod I worked on last year got some really decent exposure because of Let's Play channels, and something we were hoping to capitalize on with our debut indie game as it's essentially free advertising. I get that bigger companies might have their jimmies rustled, but it really screws over the tiny teams who were able to get a platform and a voice through these channels when they couldn't rely on getting attention off the backs of traditional games journalism.
Every single person I know in indie development considered streamers/LP's a godsend and encourages it because otherwise, you may just get buried underneath the volume of games that exist out there.
Really bad news.
OK, but it was their choice that this is their livelihood. No one forced them to quit their day jobs and try to make a living out of video game walkthroughs. We don't have to guarantee it will be a profitable endeavor.
I think it's really hurting games with a single-player focus that you can just go to YouTube and find a complete video of someone playing through the whole game. I mean, even if you accept that those videos exist, it's absurd for someone to be making a career out of talking over someone else's game.
This is long overdue.
Serious amounts of work?
Like sitting behind a mic and putting it over gameplay?
Thats not hard work.
Serious amounts of work?
Like sitting behind a mic and putting it over gameplay?
Thats not hard work.
the reason they are doing this is because of people like in telltale threads saying they'll just youtube the game.
the reason they are doing this is because of people like in telltale threads saying they'll just youtube the game.
This seems like a complex issue and so far threads about it are just each side trying their hardest to troll the other.
I think the bottom line is that this is something that can't continue to exist unchecked/uncorrected. I respect the hustle though.
Serious amounts of work?
Like sitting behind a mic and putting it over gameplay?
Thats not hard work.
So are the Rifftrack guys not allowed to make money because they're talking about movies? How about Mystery Science theater?
More over, this doesn't only effect just Let's Players. People who make reviews on Youtube are also getting claims.
You don't have to like Let's but they're very good as informing the consumer.
Serious amounts of work?
Like sitting behind a mic and putting it over gameplay?
Thats not hard work.
How are most of these fair use? While fair use is a reasonable defense to copyright violation in some circumstances, and ultimately has to be arbitrated, many of these videos don't really fit into any of the accepted definitions of fair use. A Let's Play isn't a limited use for commentary/criticism purposes, it's a complete play through of the game. The same goes for the one doing cut-scenes rearranged into little movies.
And if they're making money off the videos, that's a pretty good indication that no reasonable court is going to find these videos a fair use of copyrighted work.
OK, but it was their choice that this is their livelihood. No one forced them to quit their day jobs and try to make a living out of video game walkthroughs. We don't have to guarantee it will be a profitable endeavor.
I think it's really hurting games with a single-player focus that you can just go to YouTube and find a complete video of someone playing through the whole game. I mean, even if you accept that those videos exist, it's absurd for someone to be making a career out of talking over someone else's game.
This is long overdue.
OK, but it was their choice that this is their livelihood. No one forced them to quit their day jobs and try to make a living out of video game walkthroughs. We don't have to guarantee it will be a profitable endeavor.
I think it's really hurting games with a single-player focus that you can just go to YouTube and find a complete video of someone playing through the whole game. I mean, even if you accept that those videos exist, it's absurd for someone to be making a career out of talking over someone else's game.
This is long overdue.
How are most of these fair use? While fair use is a reasonable defense to copyright violation in some circumstances, and ultimately has to be arbitrated, many of these videos don't really fit into any of the accepted definitions of fair use. A Let's Play isn't a limited use for commentary/criticism purposes, it's a complete play through of the game. The same goes for the one doing cut-scenes rearranged into little movies.
And if they're making money off the videos, that's a pretty good indication that no reasonable court is going to find these videos a fair use of copyrighted work.
It is kind of strange that someone can benefit monetarily from playing someone else's work. Not saying people shouldn't be allowed to make the videos, but profiting from ads on those videos? Seems strange.