The system will be fine in the long run but the first year is going to be a bit dicey I thinkIf Switch makes it that far.:/
I got my hopes up because the UK manager tweeted about the event.
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Mario Kart 8 on has the advantage of every big title that Nintendo will up-port to Switch.
Not many played it on Wii U
The major new addition is the fact that Japanese can play MK8 on a handheld.
MK Deluxe will have no problems outselling its Wii U counterpart - it won't be a system seller for sure but it's going to have those usual legs
Anyhow not too worried about Japan but that lauch lineup is weak - needs more DQ/Pokemons/MH in 2017
Jon Carter
Member
That's disappointing. Too expensive, the sole big game at launch is a Wii U port and, for a console seemingly built around local multiplayer, it lacks a big local multiplayer game at launch. At this price, no early adopter will be the type of gamer interested in 1, 2, Switch, the only video game in the world meant to be played with no graphics.
I know it'll be a good system eventually but, damn, this looked less 3DS and more Wii U. Actually, even Wii U had a pack-in for that price. Insane.
I know it'll be a good system eventually but, damn, this looked less 3DS and more Wii U. Actually, even Wii U had a pack-in for that price. Insane.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Handheld with poor battery life, sure.
It looks more like a tablet and the 'Tablet mode' for Mario Kart 8 does hint at what plans Nintendo have for it in the future.
The reported battery life is actually similar to the numbers we got for the original 3DS.
Jon Carter
Member
It's 2.5 hrs to 6.5 hrs depending on the game and Zelda, a much bigger game, will make it last 3 hrs. The 3DS is 3 hrs at full brightness with WiFi on and 5 hrs at low brightness with WiFi off.
This is OG 3DS battery (not far off from the N3DS either), more or less. We originally had it set a 2-3 hours, period, now it turns out its 2.5-6+ hours. That's 3DS w/ WiFi Full-Brightness vs. 3DS w/o WiFi and dimmed.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Switch launch is barren in every territory. Don't know what they are thinking.
DarkLordMalik
Member
This is supposed to make it better. How?
Don't know if you realise but 3DS did quite well in Japan with its battery life.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Monster Hunter's logo wasn't on that list of franchises coming to Switch..
1st Course
Member
Splatoon, Mario, Zelda in same year...
Switch should be fine.
Switch should be fine.
And_Gignac
Member
Nintendo executives must be delusional. Or they probably just gave up.
There's really no reason for casual gamers to acquire this machine without 1,2 switch or ARMS being pack in games. And that's giving them the benefit of the doubt as appealing to the masses experiences (they are absolutely not, not 1.2 switch at least).
There's really no reason for casual gamers to acquire this machine without 1,2 switch or ARMS being pack in games. And that's giving them the benefit of the doubt as appealing to the masses experiences (they are absolutely not, not 1.2 switch at least).
madstarr12
Member
Switch is gonna Wii U very fast, and it doesn't have the power of the Holidays to cushion its fall, it's launching in March. It'll sell 300K-ish on launch week, then probably drop down to less than 20K in a few weeks, then 4 digits until Splatoon 2 sells 1 million on its launch, and bumps Switch 1000%.
Ugh....the fact that the chances Switch could potentially Wii U are so high makes things....not good.
Ugh....the fact that the chances Switch could potentially Wii U are so high makes things....not good.
DarkLordMalik
Member
But isn't Nintendo supposed to work on improving their handheld battery life?
Anyways, the price is the bigger concern here along with Software but there are a lot of people in here assuming that being a handheld/console combo already improves the appeal for some of the announced software.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The switch is the Wii u 2: Wii 2 harder when it should have at least been the 3DS 2: 3DS harder
How? All of science has failed at increasing battery life.
We've made like zero progress in battery tech in two decades, batteries just get bigger.
Battery technology hasn't meaningfully advanced in the last few years. Switch Battery Life is low but any device with remotely similar performance has similar battery life too.
What I want to know about are the random 3DS games like:
Pikmin
Mario Sports Superstar
Ever Oasis
MHXX (kinda)
Wasn't there some random tanks game?
Mainly pikmin, mario sports, and ever oasis. Are those games really just going to release on 3DS by itself after Switch is out? Not that the 3DS can't support it, but stuff like Mario Sports seems like an obvious switch port to have near launch, no?
Pikmin
Mario Sports Superstar
Ever Oasis
MHXX (kinda)
Wasn't there some random tanks game?
Mainly pikmin, mario sports, and ever oasis. Are those games really just going to release on 3DS by itself after Switch is out? Not that the 3DS can't support it, but stuff like Mario Sports seems like an obvious switch port to have near launch, no?
And what will Pikmin do for real...
Looking over the list again, I think we're pretty much going full convergence on software between PS4 and Switch in Japan. Tales of, SMT, Nippon Ichi (as a whole, seemingly), ArcSys (as a whole?), a bunch of SE stuff, etc.
Well, as we've seen this year, 3DS still has life in it and Nintendo pretty clearly said they'd keep supporting it. And at the 2DS/3DS prices and Switch being a good bit more expensive, I don't see why those titles wouldn't be for the 3DS and 3DS only.
Heck, Atlus has another 3DS game apparently.
1st Course
Member
Do we have dimensions for the Switch?
Wonder how it compare the PS Vita size wise.
Wonder how it compare the PS Vita size wise.
Ehh so far Switch seems to have only picked up a handful of PS4 games and Disgaea 5 is the only one that wasn't Cross Gen. Not a great sign for it.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I seemed to miss it, but wasn't the Yakuza guy there? Did he announce or promise a Yakuza game?
Nope, he didn't promise anything. He was like "I want to make something for Switch". It was kind of embarassing to be honest.
Jawbreaker
Member
Nope, no Yakuza. Actually, I have no idea why he was even on stage.
Jawbreaker
Member
Can't really blame them given how terribly it sold on the Wii U.
Well, yes, but there's not much left outside of that that isn't probably even going to be part of a conference like this and will trickle out like Fast Racing trickled out. I was thinking purely on that metric hence equating Tales of and SMT, whereas smaller things/sets of things like ArcSys and NipponIchi exist as... brands.
Obviously, it and PS4 will retain their sets of exclusives as this showed with Octopus Highway being Switch exclusive and Nintendo furthering Xenoblade.
The 3DS will save it!
...
?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Mobile is going to save Japan.^^
DarkLordMalik
Member
AC: Egypt for Switch though!
I mean Ubisoft are going all casual again. EA also announced FIFA and that was just like Vita.
I look at the conference and I fail to see 'strong third party support'.
I mean Ubisoft are going all casual again. EA also announced FIFA and that was just like Vita.
I look at the conference and I fail to see 'strong third party support'.
That was my impression. Price too high and support too low.
It at least has better support than Wii U but that's not saying much.
He's not just "Yakuza guy", he is CCO and Corporate Director at SEGA Games
also, Sega announced Puyo Puyo Tetris for Switch, so mission accomplished it seems
He's not just "Yakuza guy", he is CCO and Corporate Director at SEGA Games
also, Sega announced Puyo Puyo Tetris for Switch, so mission accomplished it seems
and Sonic Mania and SMTV.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Nagoshi is Chief Creative Officer, so he oversees Sega Japan's internal games development. Yakuza is his main thing, but he covers other games, including Atlus.
We made it, duckroll. We made it.
and Sonic Mania and SMTV.
ah, yes – this also
edit: next Sonic too. So 4 games in total.
Jawbreaker
Member
I meant that he didn't name any games at all. I guess it was more of a show of confidence, though still weird that none of the SEGA games were specifically mentioned.
DarkLordMalik
Member
SMTV is multiplatform though. No exclusivity mentioned for it.and Sonic Mania and SMTV.
Even if that's the case it's totally irrelevant to what was just said?
Mr. Pointy
Member
They're saving F-Zero SWX for a later date.
I think they are just planning Splatoon launch around the Japanese summer vacation. With this line up the initial launch is not going to be very impressive . Things will be stabilized by the Mario Kart release but really Splatoon bundle is what they are banking on - so question is really on what type of launch we are expecting for Splatoon 2 and how the game will be received in Japan.
I have no idea about the launch need to be reminded of launches of prior systems but that first launch shipments of 2 million will probably lead to a smaller amount of stock for the initial release and Japan
Anyhow I'm going with 3.5 million Squids n switches for Japan in 2017, Splatoon 8 player LANs outside is going to be a real thing happening in parks like PokemonGO - especially in Japan.
That's regardless of what other games get announced from here on out - Splatoon going to rescue Nintendo in Japan in 2017
I have no idea about the launch need to be reminded of launches of prior systems but that first launch shipments of 2 million will probably lead to a smaller amount of stock for the initial release and Japan
Anyhow I'm going with 3.5 million Squids n switches for Japan in 2017, Splatoon 8 player LANs outside is going to be a real thing happening in parks like PokemonGO - especially in Japan.
That's regardless of what other games get announced from here on out - Splatoon going to rescue Nintendo in Japan in 2017
Jawbreaker
Member
I can dream.