thestopsign
Member
The Persona domain registrations remind me that a Persona 5 port and multi platform spinoffs could be likely for the Switch.
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They wouldn't because reasons. PS. Persona Q is actually an Etrian Odyssey game so it doesn't count.
Herb Alpert
Banned
I would like this to happen just for the meltdowns here.
I wouldn't really care because I'm all for consoles in general doing well. Besides, FF7:R was never announced as an exclusive anyway.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I expect it to be multiplatform I mean that's literally what square said. I'm more surprised when people say firs means all parts must be out before releasing on another platform. I mean where is that said because it could very well take 10 years before all parts are released and it doesn't mean much sense to wait if SE have any multiplatform plans for it.
If it can run legitimately on the Switch then I don't see why not. It'd end up being a late port since Sony seem to have paid for some timed exclusivity with their first on PS4 thing, but after that it's fair game.
It'd be a thread for the archives for sure ;D
You say that as if NX/Switch begging for FFVII Remake had not happened a million times in this forum already
KillerMan91
Member
Difference is that porting Switch version of MH for PS4 will be easy job but porting graphics heavy AAA game from PS4 to Switch will have to have a lot of compromises. I still really don't see any graphics heavy AAA games making it to the Switch. Japanese or Western.
DQ XI Japan will massively outsell FF XV in Japan.
DQ XI worldwide probably won't outsell FF XV worldwide.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Depends really I mean most of the engines are scale these days and while it's large I isn't that vast if there's a will. The question has always been has there been a will.
Breath of the Wild has Blood Moons.
MC threads have you
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By the way, another Switch retail (and PS4, I guess) game announced for July 20th. Cars 3. Yup, Splatoon 2 is screwed, better delay it to this Fall, I guess.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/378/G037804/20170420050/
No Dengeki charts yet? I thought they would'be already up right now, but nothing in sight on dengekionline.com
Yeah, indeed.
Yeah, indeed.
Where did I hear the "for the archives" already...
First of all the begging for FF VII Remake is not comparable to the several years we are seeing the Monster Hunter Vita/PS4 posts and you know it
Second I was not comparing the begging for both games. I'm all for multiplatform releases (it makes sense seeing how much the development costs has risen these past years) but I'm in for all third party games, not just Monster Hunter. And I'm pretty sure some of the usual suspects are only fine when the multiplatform releases suit their platform of choice
KillerMan91
Member
Engine scaling only takes you so far. I mean for example something like FF XV is already running 720p on Xbox One with some framerate drops. You would have to change a lot to get it running on Switch (especially as everything has to run in handheld mode too).
Dark Cloud
Member
Hey. You said you heard about a game that Nintendo might show (at E3?) and it would be one for the archives on Neogaf. Now you're talking about "what if FFVIIR get announced for Switch?"
You making me wonder 🤔
Lol! I didn't even see you posted this. I just remember in the Epic Japan (20+ UE4 games for Switch) topic you said you heard about a game coming to Switch I believe.
I've always thought FFVIIR was coming to Switch (Square never said it was exclusive to PS4). Square would be dumb. But man how crazy would it be that Square left to Sony because the Nintendo 64 had cartridges and now Square brings back that same game to Nintendo 20 years later to the Switch which uses cartridges!
Gotdatmoney
Member
I dunno I would be fine with it. Multiplats are good. I think multiplat MH makes sense, it really has nothing to do with preferred platform. FF7:Re isnt even a real game anyway
thestopsign
Member
I think a more likely scenario in the near term is for Kingdom Hearts 3 to get announced. I don't know if there would be meltdowns over that though.
Also, I think Capcom's smart choice is to go multiplat for Monster Hunter. Losing Nintendo's western support could hurt though.
It's already on the bone. A meltdown would be nigh impossible at this point.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Pretty sure that sorta power range scaling is largely alright. As long their alright with sub HD and likely dynamic resolution and further downgrade in graphics it's fine. This isn't some insurmountable gap. You see those sorts of gaps within the same game on pc reasonably often. Of course the weaker version can often look like dogshit but it's hardly unplayable.
Japanese devs were constrained by the Vita, games were still made.
FF 15 doesn't run with the same engine as 7 does it ?
And when I see how messy it is I wonder if they had the time to properly adjust everything.
In the end it all matters on the companies choice and if they think there's money to make.
The Switch is still easily stronger than the Wii U which could run some very nice looking game already
but didn't have the user base to do much
Well, we already know it was announced as being "first" on PS4 so I am sure everybody knows it is coming to other platforms. Switch would obviously be a surprise but after cloud amiibo I think it will probably happen. I would only be pissed if they did a dq kind of thing and made the combat and the look different for the switch version aka turn based or something. I love turn based and kinda sad they are going the action route for the remake.
Dark Cloud
Member
I'm sad Square felt the need to go the action route instead of leaving it turnbased, but I guess it makes it more "appealing".
Minecraft, arms or mario odyssey?
Here's what he said:
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233943659#post233943659
Sure sounds like he's talking about FFVIIR.
thestopsign
Member
You can give me whatever ban you see fit if Arms beats a million in Japan.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Clearly ARMS is the new Splatoon!
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Because making a compromise will inevitably affect both versions. Look at DQ and how they've effectively made two versions of the game. Yes thats on 3DS, but the gap with Switch and PS4 is substantial enough to cause significant compromises.
You do know FF7R was announced first on PS4 since its very first reveal lol
Though I'm curious on how bad the downgrade would be to make it run on SW. The gap is probably too big to have it on SW but we'll see what SE comes up with.
If ARMS shows LEGS, we'll need an image, just like the one we had for Splatoon.
Wait, we already have something
Sort of
Minecraft - eventually it will sell 1m, but by end of the year?
ARMs - not sure it'll do 1m in Japan
Mario Odyssey - could do
Apart from Wii, biggest loser from all these is GBA that despite starting so strong didn't have the software to support it. Lack of big sellers except Pokemon and early 3DS launch shortened its LTD a lot.Finally a comparison with good selling systems for Switch
Dark Cloud
Member
If FFVIIR is announced for Switch at E3 would Square be at Nintendos Digital Event/Conference with new footage? It would be weird considering it's coming to PS4 first unless Square goes to both events.
Bravely Archive confirmed for Nintendo Switch.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
What he's saying is theoretically it could be the same group who bought Wii U in its first month, just necessarily more spread out because of supply constraints. Put another way, Switch has proven its sales don't go to shit after 5 weeks, but it hasn't yet proven they don't go to shit after hitting 700K.
Looking back at some past cases...sphinx said:
Xbox: End of 2006, when it was usually getting single digits or 0.
GBA: End of 2007, when it was getting down to not much over 100.
GCN: End of 2007, when it was usually under 100.
PS2: End of 2012, when it was still getting about 1000 a week. Checking now, Sony announced the end of production in January 2013, so it couldn't have gone much longer anyway.
I kind of had the idea that Unity games were very easy to move across platforms, and it was built around PSV limitations Switch would have no problems matching or beating, so beyond changing the names of buttons and that Temporal Battle Arena it doesn't seem like something that would've taken much effort?Herb Alpert said:
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Even with being UE4, the power needed to run FF7R desirably is not going to disappear.
Sure, the question is a more general one: can Switch run AAA games running on UE4? FFXV tells us nothing about that.
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Saint Titanfall
No but there's far more wiggle room in terms of optimization. Since there's so little shown if SE is serious about porting there's little reason to believe they won't be able to. That's if they're serious about it.
Have you seen Dragon Quest Heroes 2 for the Switch?
jeremy1456
Junior Member
There's no reason for multiplat either. It simply wouldn't sell that nearly as well on a home console, and would give them more servers to manage and they would lose their advertising partnership with Nintendo.
It makes more sense for them to keep it exclusive.
As the last viable platform for Monster Hunter to sell multi-millions on Capcom needs the Switch.
Nintendo however doesn't need Capcom for the Switch to be a success.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You'd have a point if Capcom were some small ass company. The thing is, they aren't.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Too bad they very much act like it.
frankie_baby
Member
Why would they lose an advertisement partnership if it's not exclusive? Do Microsoft and Sony not advertise 3rd party games even when they appear on another platform? Heck both Sony and Microsoft dedicated Conference stage time to FFXV and MGSV at separate events.
Nintendo can still advertise for a game on Switch even if it releases elsewhere
And yes it will sell more on Switch than PS4, that's a given. Doesn't mean the additional sales on PS4 are useless. With that mentality we wouldn't get multiplatform games, everything would go lead platform. That's like saying FFXV and MGSV shouldn't release on Xbox One and PC since the majority of sales will be on PS4, which is silly