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Calm Mind
Member
If I didn't know better I'd say their latest game was a direct sequel to Fantasy Life. It sure looks like it.
Well, they tried something "different" with Layton 7 twice and those clearly all got canned hard. Instead they are now releasing Lady Layton which has been renamed to Layton's Mystery Journey or whatever, and it is now extremely close to the original series and they are clearly trying to attract old fans back.
Mini Super Famicom is so cute! Wish it has Final Fight 3 instead of Super Street Fighter II though.
Modern Warfare remastered is releasing in Japan on July 27th.
People have been rightfully complaining about the $40 price in the US, well Japanese players have to pay 6000 yen.
Black Ops III GOTY is coming out on Thursday, with that and WWII there's a lot of Call of Duty for this year.
Also further filling up July's extremely busy schedule, what better time to get remastered Call of Duty than right before the new Dragon Quest.
People have been rightfully complaining about the $40 price in the US, well Japanese players have to pay 6000 yen.
Black Ops III GOTY is coming out on Thursday, with that and WWII there's a lot of Call of Duty for this year.
Also further filling up July's extremely busy schedule, what better time to get remastered Call of Duty than right before the new Dragon Quest.
James Scott
Banned
I remember they were like "this is the last one! Promise!" For Azran Legacy.Well, they tried something "different" with Layton 7 twice and those clearly all got canned hard. Instead they are now releasing Lady Layton which has been renamed to Layton's Mystery Journey or whatever, and it is now extremely close to the original series and they are clearly trying to attract old fans back.
It is pretty weird that Layton 7 was rebooted and then seemingly cancelled. Was basically two different mobile games that barely had anything to do with Layton.
But the merge is actually a thing, there's basically nothing (or, well, nothing I know of) coming to 3DS from their internal teams and most of the coming stuff is either outsourced, clearly low budget/effort or both.
We basically know nothing about unannounced third parties plans. I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.
I think that's arguable in the West and even more for Japan though. Japan basically never went full-casual with the Wii, or at least it was a far less pronounced trend compared to the West.
Comparison is a bit unfair IMHO due to a couple of extremely low budget stuff on the Wii.
But in the end I don't think we should worry if (and that's yet to be seen of course) Nintendo can manage a mix of first, second and third party like the one we have in 2017, which is shaping out as arguably one of the best launch year ever IMHO.
Right now (not taking into account current stock issues) I think the Swith lacks both a true mass market price and arguably the right apps to appeal to a certain demographics. But I believe the DNA is there and the start (see viral images of certain celebrities) seems promising... it's just not here yet.
C'mon that's revisionism.
PS4 demographics nevere ever saw the Wii as THE choice, heck I'd argue on this very forum there's still people salty about the Wii huge success and/or that believe motion sensing is waggle and nothing else (not to mention actively downplaying IR pointing, arguably and ironically a feature that made some core-oriented genres better)
Hmm... was goign to point out there's been years with two official Olympics games, but turns out they were both from SEGA.
Still, I doubt Ubisoft went and paid for exclusive licence for a game like Steep, especially since Mario & Sonic would hardly be competition.
As much as I'd love a new Captain Toad, it's probably too early for that. Most likely next year, using Odyssey engine.
Without the crafting...which is 80% of the game.
But the merge is actually a thing, there's basically nothing (or, well, nothing I know of) coming to 3DS from their internal teams and most of the coming stuff is either outsourced, clearly low budget/effort or both.
We basically know nothing about unannounced third parties plans. I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.
I think that's arguable in the West and even more for Japan though. Japan basically never went full-casual with the Wii, or at least it was a far less pronounced trend compared to the West.
Comparison is a bit unfair IMHO due to a couple of extremely low budget stuff on the Wii.
But in the end I don't think we should worry if (and that's yet to be seen of course) Nintendo can manage a mix of first, second and third party like the one we have in 2017, which is shaping out as arguably one of the best launch year ever IMHO.
Right now (not taking into account current stock issues) I think the Swith lacks both a true mass market price and arguably the right apps to appeal to a certain demographics. But I believe the DNA is there and the start (see viral images of certain celebrities) seems promising... it's just not here yet.
C'mon that's revisionism.
PS4 demographics nevere ever saw the Wii as THE choice, heck I'd argue on this very forum there's still people salty about the Wii huge success and/or that believe motion sensing is waggle and nothing else (not to mention actively downplaying IR pointing, arguably and ironically a feature that made some core-oriented genres better)
Well, I wasn't picturing the Wii as a paradise for / from third party, but as an example of how the lack of coordination between Nintendo positioning of the console with their first/second party output and third party perception/support and actual outcome was a mistake based on bad timing, due to lack of initial lack of confidence VS unexpected sales blowout
The risk is exactly that Switch, due to Nintendo not clearly picturing it as a 3DS successor (or, better: as a real hybrid merging both portable and home development streams) has already caused a worrying third party lack of actual and planned support that, if behind the curtains something is happening (and we don't know, because we have seen some announcements for Switch, that would delete the remote idea of misterious NDA blocking other announcements, and for other consoles for potential Switch games, from MH World to various anime licensed games, that clearly show how third party aren't neither planning Switch games for 2018), risk to arrive too late in the life cycle to determine an actual result
I do think it is important to remember that what Nintendo's PR might say when they want to sell 3DS to people could be different than what Nintendo says to developers hoping to get them to develop for their new platform. I don't imagine any publishers getting confused about if Switch is Nintendo's next platform of interest.
There's one thing that needs to be said.
Yes, many third parties were late to the party (!!!) with Wii.
But in my opinion many core games bombed because by the time they came to the market, the Wii audience had significantly changed compared to the early period and was basically a weird (?) mixture of casual and Nintendo enthusiasts.
Current Switch lineup seems *very* different to me right now (and I'm sure this affects the audience for obvious reasons) and unless a huge casual shift happens, I think even in the worse case scenario the outcome might diverge a lot from what we experienced in 2009-10 for this reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-vGvj8sFbg
Nagoshi said in stream that there will be Yakuza related news in two months.
Nagoshi said in stream that there will be Yakuza related news in two months.
Dead Souls 2 here we go.
Laplasakos
Member
So basically TGS, considering that Sony has it's conference always in early September.
TheLegendaryN
Member
What's Tsujimoto doing on that stream?
The new game is set in 2020, where Sega has bought Capcom, and people are playing Monster Hunter in the arcades of Tokyo, next to Puyo Puyo. Because in Sega's world, arcades aren't dead in 2020.
So around 8% attach rate as of May? Not bad for a digital only release I guess, and I doubt many of the markets targeted by Minecraft own a Switch yet.
TheLegendaryN
Member
I think it doesn't really matter. Minecraft Switch is the best portable version out there (except the PC version on a laptop, I guess) and it's a game that continues to sell. As more people get a Switch, more people will buy Minecraft.
The Minecraft audience is very broad. A lot of casual players and kids buy Minecraft too, but those are not the people who are the first to buy a new system. I expect that percentage to only rise as more Switch systems get sold.
Laplasakos
Member
Out of curiosity, what is the combined retail and digital number for Minecraft Vita? Also, anyone knows the second best selling game on Vita behind Minecraft?
That's 60k+ for 18 days, a little below from Wii U's 77k for the same period. Both are 50% more expensive than PS3, PS4, PSV Editions.
Retail release is a good guess for November/December.
Well, first party line up and price positioning aren't "misterious" and probably led third parties in being skeptical about it being able to be sold/seen as a 3DS successor in the short/mid term
This is a good reasoning, I agree.
Wow, seem very good! Curious to see its retail version performances
Laplasakos
Member
Kadokawa announced that God Wars shipped 100.000 copies worldwide.
http://www.dualshockers.com/god-wars-shipped-100000-copies-worldwide-following-western-release/
http://www.dualshockers.com/god-wars-shipped-100000-copies-worldwide-following-western-release/
Road to 1 million begins!
I though it would be over 100K for May but 60K in 16 days is still decent. Should have already passed Bomberman R and take the reign as the most successful 3rd party game on the system for the foreseeable future.
Once the Switch stock situation is resolved and they are shipping 50-100K Switches per week - Minecraft will be one of the 3rd party games that will greatly benefit.
James Scott
Banned
Likely not their final plans for it. Was pretty good at launch but it does need some tuning.
They've made minor changes so I hope they keep with that
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Do we have info on how other games did on the eshop?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Minecraft Vita sold 1.34M in Japan. God Eater 2 was the 2nd best selling title on Vita at ~420K. Just look on gamedatalibrary for that and a lot more.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Wtf?Ōkami;242012958 said:
thestopsign
Member
It probably had a steep sale in May, same thing that happened with Assassin's Creed and a few other games.
We knew, but Famitsu confirms, Switch at 1 million
Switch hardware: 1.016.473
Mario Kart 501,614
Zelda: 460,480
1 2 Switch 200,807
Arms: 154,845
Bomberman 92,112
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201706/28136488.html
Switch hardware: 1.016.473
Mario Kart 501,614
Zelda: 460,480
1 2 Switch 200,807
Arms: 154,845
Bomberman 92,112
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201706/28136488.html
whyamihere
Banned
Ōkami;242030643 said:
Hooray!
Western games do very well in Japan at $5-$10 digitally.
This was also part of why NPD opted to move from units to revenue. Once they added digital, the best sellers were games that went on steep digital discount, and publishers weren't really feeling that.
NPD didn't feel it was especially representation of what was actually driving the market either.
Grim Patron
Member
I think retail will happen with the summer update with the "better together" features. That will allow the price of the retail release to go up as well.
whyamihere
Banned
I'm okay with this.
AquaWateria
Member
32k for ARMS is a lot better than I expected.
Hopefully it keeps up.
Hopefully it keeps up.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I don't think Nintendo's going to get their stock sorted until 2018.