He's not exactly saying that either. "The best decision" may be putting those remakes on 3DS.
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2012 (Jul 23 - Jul 29)
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He's not exactly saying that either. "The best decision" may be putting those remakes on 3DS.
I agree with you that it's not encouraging but it was to be expected, especially from Tales- a franchise that skips from console to console all the time.
Yeah then they'd be in trouble. Basically he's saying, we did our part, now it's Sony's time. And honestly Sony does have to make an effort like Nintendo did this time last year to relaunch the Vita.
Also re the sales watch this year, it's gonna be great seeing whether PS3 Slimmer or Wii U will sell more. That's gonna be a tight race.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Another hour or so before the numbers come out, hype.
Eurogamer seems to have a reasonable policy, they revisit and rereview MMOs every so often. They've reviewed WoW four or five times now, IIRC.
Give it about another 2 hours and we should have the data then.
Not to derail this thread but really Sony has to bleed some money either in forms of moneyhats or price cut to revive it if they're serious about it. Though then again Sony stated that the plan is to appeal to a niche at the start and the do price-cuts to get into the more market friendly rage. But if they had to cut their own predictions for the amount of units sold in the fy then I guess it's not all going according to the plan.
electroplankton
Banned
Actually, Tales of series have always been present on Sony platforms regardless sales, and even on other platforms regardless sales. Vesperia on 360, all Tales of on early days of PSP (Eternia, Phantasia, Radiant Mythology, Destiny 2), Vesperia on PS3 when the console was not selling well at all... That's why I think that if also Tales producer or whatever is starting to question Vita support, it's really a bad situation.
Of course there are a few ones that d(id/o)n't release on PSN and some that aren't compatible with Vita but most PSP releases are also on PSN and they've been for years now. The missing ones are mostly older ones, and SE was a bit late to support PSN fully (Crisis Core and BbS are missing, Dissidia and Type-0 are featured).
There's a huge catalogue of compatible PSP games on Japanese Vita PSN. I don't think it's missing any important recent titles.
Thing is - those games are already playable on the 3DS. I think the point of these remakes was to present them to a different audience, dont know if it would make sense putting titles like a TotT R on 3DS.
Would love a ToS Remake on 3DS.
slaughterking
Member
I think it would be reasonably easy for Sony to convince (or money-hat) Namco to put a Tales game on the Vita in one way or another. Original mainline games are probably tied to the PS3 for the near future if Namco knows what's good for them, but I feel like there are other opportunities within the Tales franchise that would make sense to appear on the Vita.
Metallix87
Member
Maybe they should scrap the "remake DS games" strategy, and simply push forward making brand new games?
I would like remakes of ToS and ToH, though...
mugurumakensei
Member
If there was a ToS remake, I'd rather it be on WiiU.
electroplankton
Banned
I do think there's something planned on handhelf, something like Tales of the World or a crappy spin-off, because you know, Namco is Namco. Given Xillia's success, I think mainline titles will be PS3 or at least home console now.
electroplankton
Banned
It's not that Tales of fans have excellent tastes given what they've bought on PSP.
Smiles and Cries
Member
if 501K is the cutoff sure good chance
Sammy Samusu
Member
As a counter argument, here's an interview with Baba:
http://jpgames.de/2012/07/our-interview-with-tales-of-producer-hideo-baba/
It seems pretty clear where Tales fans want their games, though.
PS3 for the mothership titles, handhelds (specifically PSP) for the spin-offs. Personally I think that if they were going to bother remaking any Tales games they'd be better off selling them on PS3. For all the console Tales, anyway.
Doesn't seem much point in a remake of Tales of Hearts.
BishopLamont
Banned
How do they know most Tales fans are already on the Vita? The only Tales Vita game sold worse than the only Tales 3DS game.
Bruno MB
Member
Yep, it is a very interesting week. Dragon Quest X and the second week of New Super Mario Bros. 2, Oni Training and 3DS hardware.
Here's what I expect:
Dragon Quest X - 350k
New Super Mario Bros 2. - 250k
Oni Training - 35k
3DS - 100k
Doesn't change anything.
Lowest first entry in dq history.
Of course the real aim is monthly subs.
Understandable. Yet Se should give old fans their mainline offline chapter asap
I'd say we'll have them in about 10 minutes.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Famitsu DQX - 420,311
Do you think DQ 1 sold more than 500k in its first week?
Wow, better than I expected. SE has to be pleased, at least early on.
metalslimer
Member
About what I expected. People were going a little too crazy with some of those predictions. Let's see if it follows my other prediction of having terrible legs.
Bruno MB
Member
Really great sales, at one point we discussed that even 500k lifetime sales was not guaranteed.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Media Create DQX - 367,148
LOL!
LOL!
Not really :-
slaughterking
Member
How are Wii hardware sales?
metalslimer
Member
Just remember that Famitsu is the superior tracker
michaelius
Banned
Looks pretty good to me for game with subscription.
metalslimer
Member
NSMB2 sales are really disappointing. Is it bad to say I'm somewhat happy about that?
Oh and Vita sales are horrendous but that's nothing new.
Oh and Vita sales are horrendous but that's nothing new.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Wut
MasterSheen
Member
Wii is alive!
electroplankton
Banned
Nice sales, indeed.
Chris said expectations were in the range 300-400k, so a little more is good I think.
Oh come on. And don't worry, Obon is coming.
test_account
XP-39C²
Looks like that DQX hardware bundle did a good job for Wii hardware sales 
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
So already more than double the PS2 ltd of FFXI. Not bad, let's see if Wii can shatter records again by delivering the second subcrption based million seller in Japan ever.
It won't on Wii, but I bet it can do it between Wii and Wii U.
metalslimer
Member
People were talking as if the 2 days missed from NSMB2's opening week were a huge deal, but even with 2 weeks it hasn't reached either NSMB or NSMBW's opening week.
Why are people acting surprised every time when it's obvious that it's not going to magically rise in a week without new games?
I think it's in line if you compare install bases of each platform at the time of each respective title's release.
Foshy said:
Well there have been several people that have claimed it was stabilizing at 14k, then 12k, then 10k...