IIRC, Yomawari sold well on PSN. This is a game I would expect to perform well in digital sales. Sales are good for what the project is, and the trend over time is positive. Nevertheless, Nippon Ichi's prospect was much more positive a few years ago. They struggled in establishing new successful IPs at the same level of Disgaea, and Disgaea sales have plummeted.
Unless I missed something, the original tweet only stated that Yomawari series topped 100K, without indicating whether the number is for Japan only or worldwide. Seems like Nippon Ichi are happy with the sales regardless so it's all good.
https://twitter.com/ShinYomawari/status/912932477051691008
You guys blame Maxsoft but it's more like Nintendon't care about South East Asia IMO.
You would get better results just starting a company from scratch.
You guys blame Maxsoft but it's more like Nintendon't care about South East Asia IMO.
B doesn't absolve A though. That's not how logic works.
I'm not denying that Maxsoft sucks. What I'm saying is that if Nintendo don't care, why should Maxsoft care? Nintendo picked Maxsoft to be the sole regional distributor for SEA, and despite the latter doing a bad job for years, they still stuck with them.More like both of them sucks at SEA.
Idk but they should,I think Nintendo,more than anyone,know that their console really has potential in SEA right nowI'm not denying that Maxsoft sucks. What I'm saying is that if Nintendo don't care, why should Maxsoft care? Nintendo picked Maxsoft to be the sole regional distributor for SEA, and despite the latter doing a bad job for years, they still stuck with them.
why should Maxsoft care?
I'm not denying that Maxsoft sucks. What I'm saying is that if Nintendo don't care, why should Maxsoft care? Nintendo picked Maxsoft to be the sole regional distributor for SEA, and despite the latter doing a bad job for years, they still stuck with them.
Build a new Nintendo of SEA/Asia/China+other countries or something like that could be an option thoughIs there any other potential distibutor Nintendo could turn to if they ever decide to ditch Maxsoft (or least pressure them into doing a better job)?
Is there any other potential distibutor Nintendo could turn to if they ever decide to ditch Maxsoft (or least pressure them into doing a better job)?
Is there any other potential distibutor Nintendo could turn to if they ever decide to ditch Maxsoft (or least pressure them into doing a better job)?
I'm surprised that they haven't made a special edition console or a bundle for BOTW
Because doing a good job as a distributor will get you more goodwill, a more loyal customer base, and a better chance of people not seeking alternative means to buy your products from outside of the region? The same as... any other business?
I don't know how Maxsoft run their company, but I'm guessing that being a sole distributor (no competition) and probably little or no pressure from Nintendo mean that they're living in a comfort zone where they don't have any desire or incentive to improve.Because if Maxsoft is doing badly then their profit will drop and most fans in SEA will ask for their head as it is through them they get the product.
I mean even if Nintendo dont care, Maxsoft should at least care as that is their money coming from lol.
There should be a lot other choice. I just believe Ninty is just too lazy to give a crap there.
I mean, even in Indonesia there is tons of company which can help do better work there.
Ah ok, so it's not just a case of a company having a monopoly and Nintendo being stuck with them.
Definitely a shame to see so many potential markets being downright ignored/neglected, with the company contenting itself with mere scraps when they could actually get a proper slice of the cake. Hopefully with the Switch being successful, they'll at least >try< to not pretend those markets don't exist *shrugs*
I don't know how Maxsoft run their company, but I'm guessing that being a sole distributor (no competition) and probably little or no pressure from Nintendo mean that they're living in a comfort zone where they don't have any desire or incentive to improve.
I remember reading about NES doing badly in Europe because of Mattel until Nintendo ditched them. Clearly Nintendo don't see SEA as a profitable region for expansion.
I don't know how Maxsoft run their company, but I'm guessing that being a sole distributor (no competition) and probably little or no pressure from Nintendo mean that they're living in a comfort zone where they don't have any desire or incentive to improve.
I remember reading about NES doing badly in Europe because of Mattel until Nintendo ditched them. Clearly Nintendo don't see SEA as a profitable region for expansion.
I remember reading about NES doing badly in Europe because of Mattel until Nintendo ditched them. Clearly Nintendo don't see SEA as a profitable region for expansion.
I understand your point but the use of MS in this example seems questionable. How many Xbox units do you think they shift in the region? It's not like insignificant volumes are enough to deter their presence looking at their Japanese sales.Yes, CLEARLY it must be that the region in question is unattractive, as opposed to Nintendo being incompetent and unable to understand how to best establish a presence in the region. The SEA region is sooooooooooooo unprofitable that both Sony and MS have dedicated offices here overseeing actual publishing, distribution, customer service, public relations, etc.
And not to say that,according to them,the entire SEA is just consisted of 5 countriesYes, CLEARLY it must be that the region in question is unattractive, as opposed to Nintendo being incompetent and unable to understand how to best establish a presence in the region. The SEA region is sooooooooooooo unprofitable that both Sony and MS have dedicated offices here overseeing actual publishing, distribution, customer service, public relations, etc.
I understand your point but the use of MS in this example seems questionable. How many Xbox units do you think they shift in the region? It's not like insignificant volumes are enough to deter their presence looking at their Japanese sales.
I understand your point but the use of MS in this example seems questionable. How many Xbox units do you think they shift in the region? It's not like insignificant volumes are enough to deter their presence looking at their Japanese sales.
.Microsoft Xbox actually did much better vs its release in Japan though. I mean, the worst come to worst, at least Xbox 360 still sell as it is a pirateable platform. Just like the old DS and Wii era lol. So there should be no reasom for Nintendo to not enter the market there.
Hell, People in SEA is trained to learn English to actually play games there. There is even some community which is versed in Chinese or Japanese language so if Nintendo actually wanted to push for the countries i can see them chances of doing well but from what i see, Nintendo does not seems to have any urged to push to that direction at all.
Yeah but what are the volumes. If we're talking hundreds thousand max we're not talking about megabux here even if the total weekly sales are a magnitude larger than Japan's.Bad argument? MS most definitely shifts way more Xbox units in the SEA region compared to Japan. For starters, most people in the region are actually capable of playing English games.
The Gamedatalibrary lists only 34.962 copies sold for Yomawari: Night Alone, while Yomawari: Midnight Shadows' most recent Famitsu numbers were 15.035 (PS4) + 11.496 (Vita) = 26.531 copies. Combining the two games' numbers gives 61.493 copies. This means a lot of bargain bin sales and/or a huge digital share of ~40%. Looks like NIS isn't doing as bad as retail sales suggest.
I think you misunderstood. That's exactly what I was saying. Nintendo (being incompetent or whatever reason) don't see SEA as an attractive region therefore they aren't putting any effort to improve things here. People can blame Maxsoft, but if Nintendo themselves don't give a crap, I don't see how the situation will ever change.Yes, CLEARLY it must be that the region in question is unattractive, as opposed to Nintendo being incompetent and unable to understand how to best establish a presence in the region. The SEA region is sooooooooooooo unprofitable that both Sony and MS have dedicated offices here overseeing actual publishing, distribution, customer service, public relations, etc.
I think you misunderstood. That's exactly what I was saying. Nintendo (being incompetent or whatever reason) don't see SEA as an attractive region therefore they aren't putting any effort to improve things here. People can blame Maxsoft, but if Nintendo themselves don't give a crap, I don't see how the situation will ever change.
Including digital sales, but still nice! 48k vs 35k is a big difference, so there's definitely a big share of digital sales in there.
The distribution of Nintendo products in Scandinavia is managed by Bergsala since 1981 which means Bergsala is Nintendo's oldest business partner outside Japan.South America, Asian countries, Scandinavia... Almost ignored by Nintendo, meaning that gamers had really to put effort to find/buy/know Nintendo products.
I'd also suggest Gamedatalibrary is possibly out of date? (or is it Famitsu numbers?)
Media Create CY 2016 sales has the first game at 42k physical:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1427978
I'd say it was almost definitely over 50k in Japan alone, which given what we know about Midnight Shadows (at least > 30k in shipments alone) suggests that the figure is just Japan or sales were very low overseas.
P.S. I have no idea what's going on with Witch & Hundred Knight 2. Possibly Switch port I'm guessing?
As for TW&HK2, the game did a lot worse than the first one in Japan, which might be a reason not to localise it, depending on sales results of TW&HK and its remaster in the west.
I highly doubt NISA are going to skip a PS4 title for localization. They're probably just adding extra platforms for western release (i.e. Switch/PC).
The distribution of Nintendo products in Scandinavia is managed by Bergsala since 1981 which means Bergsala is Nintendo's oldest business partner outside Japan.
What are the rules/laws/pescriptions Nintendo must abide by to be able to properly have presence in China besides just incorporating there?
You're right. During my traveling, I always had the impression that Nintendo presence in Scandinavia is a bit scarce, so I thought it might have been due to the choice of the business partner.
Media Create:
Switch 43,426
PS4 18,396
New3DS LL 8,726
New2DS LL 8,508
PS4 Pro 5,418
Vita 3,707
2DS 1,659
New3DS 379
PS3 87
Xbox One 76
Wii U 56
Pokkén: 53k
And since people were interested, Marvel did 8k.