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Mentally ill inmate locked in hot shower; death ruled an accident
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SSPssp
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Usually not. Even if they're supposed to be transferred there are never enough beds available for treatment.
Forerunner
Member
There are, but jails usually lack the required care for these types of individuals. Jails are only supposed to be temporarily, however people stay at them a lot longer than they should.
I feel like this the ultimate litmus for the system. Can they boil a man to death and get away with it? Yes, so long as he's mentally ill and (more importantly) black.
Utterly fucking horrifying.
Tangled Up in Blue
Banned
This country is beyond fucked. I truly give up.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
A mentally ill man was put in prison to be tortured and killed over a cocaine possession. The amount of injustice in the world is unfathomable.
I fucking hate the American prison system, and I'm not even American.
A Link to the Past
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Reading that bullshit justification for not charging people who willfully tortured and murdered someone made me physically ill.
Night.Ninja
Banned
That's fucked up
Baldwin_the_First
Member
What a fucking horrible cunt. Seriously. That Rundle woman, there's no way she should ever, ever forget about that sickening, hateful, loathsome decision of hers. She should have that autopsy picture printed in her mind everytime she goes to sleep.
FUCK! I'm legit shook.
SillyEskimo
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My hot tub is set at 104
Straight Edge
Member
Is this a joke?
Gentleman Jack
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The system is working as intended. Kill black men, cover it up, nobody is accountable.
The New Yorker did an in-depth article about this last year. I posted a topic about it. It's fucking disgusting, and it wasn't just limited to this incident or this location. There was also deliberately withholding of food (one example of a man dropping from 178 to 105 pounds), beating prisoners for fun, intimidating mental-health personnel into looking away or not reporting abuses for fears of correctional staff retaliation.
This is an endemic problem in American prisons and correctional culture more generally. Rainey's death is just one of 85 non-natural prison deaths being investigated by the FDLE. And the culture of correctional officer impunity runs deep Half of prison sexual assaults may be due to guards, with prosecutions being rare. This pattern of abuse also happens in prisons where youths are held, as in this DoJ report on Rikers. Even in juvenile detention, patterns of sexual abuse and exploitation of youth have been found, including guards who would exchange sexual favors for small privileges such as extra food, out of cell time when others are confined. Nearly a quarter of those who had been sexually assaulted before were also abused while in custody; 88 percent of those report having been abused repeatedly. And a full quarter of the known staff predators not only avoid prosecution but keep their jobs and access to victims. Even when they are -prosecuted convicted, 73 percent in one study were given probation, and only 8 percent were given more than a year in prison. Courts and juries have shown themselves willing to use stunningly tendentious reasoning to argue against holding guards accountable, even for instances of facilitating the rape of a prisoner as revenge. Tortureis excused and perpetrators have been reinstated even after being fired initially.
And whistleblowers pay a price; looking the other way does not lose you your job.
It's just a bottomless pit.
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
This is an endemic problem in American prisons and correctional culture more generally. Rainey's death is just one of 85 non-natural prison deaths being investigated by the FDLE. And the culture of correctional officer impunity runs deep Half of prison sexual assaults may be due to guards, with prosecutions being rare. This pattern of abuse also happens in prisons where youths are held, as in this DoJ report on Rikers. Even in juvenile detention, patterns of sexual abuse and exploitation of youth have been found, including guards who would exchange sexual favors for small privileges such as extra food, out of cell time when others are confined. Nearly a quarter of those who had been sexually assaulted before were also abused while in custody; 88 percent of those report having been abused repeatedly. And a full quarter of the known staff predators not only avoid prosecution but keep their jobs and access to victims. Even when they are -prosecuted convicted, 73 percent in one study were given probation, and only 8 percent were given more than a year in prison. Courts and juries have shown themselves willing to use stunningly tendentious reasoning to argue against holding guards accountable, even for instances of facilitating the rape of a prisoner as revenge. Tortureis excused and perpetrators have been reinstated even after being fired initially.
And whistleblowers pay a price; looking the other way does not lose you your job.
It's just a bottomless pit.
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
Exactly.
People love to scream about being on a moral high ground calling anyone else not in agreement barbaric that people like this shouldn't suffer for what they did.
But time and time again, humans do awful things and they simply need to be removed from our plane of existence.
It annoys me so much, I wish we could shift-delete the cruel.
It's not working.
SillyEskimo
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Nope. It is the max temp setting and I keep it maxxed out.
Neoleo2143
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Prisons are a breeding ground for Evil.
Why do Showers have locks on them? I can understand why control of the temperature isn't in the hands of the Guards but why do they go up to 180 Degrees? No one's going to use that setting except to kill another person so why give the option in the first place? Why wasn't there a monitor listening for the screams of agony so that they could potentially get this individual to a hospital?
Prisons are a clucksterfuck of incompetent design, moral bankruptcy and pure exploitation. And people want to privatize this shit. Screw those people, maybe they should actually spend some time in the hell that they've made.
Edit: Upon some research, the external controls for the Shower are apparently illegal if superiors aren't notified since it was apparently private. This was even worse than I thought.
Why do Showers have locks on them? I can understand why control of the temperature isn't in the hands of the Guards but why do they go up to 180 Degrees? No one's going to use that setting except to kill another person so why give the option in the first place? Why wasn't there a monitor listening for the screams of agony so that they could potentially get this individual to a hospital?
Prisons are a clucksterfuck of incompetent design, moral bankruptcy and pure exploitation. And people want to privatize this shit. Screw those people, maybe they should actually spend some time in the hell that they've made.
Edit: Upon some research, the external controls for the Shower are apparently illegal if superiors aren't notified since it was apparently private. This was even worse than I thought.
Gentleman Jack
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They would first have to acknowledge that the victim was a human being to get that charge.
Double Donut
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Straight Edge
Member
But what does it have to do with the story? The temperature in this shower would be considerably higher to cause his death.
pixelation
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Poor guy, sounds like a horrible way to go.
Monocle
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supermarioworldE
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As usual, no fucking justice for the mentally ill or black people.
I can only hope for the worst with the murderers.
I can only hope for the worst with the murderers.
Ziltoidia 9
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What the flying shit.
OG Shaka Zulu
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This is some Negan shit. Fuck these people.
Slackbladder
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It was murder. It was intentional.
What did he mean by this?
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Psychopaths, Klan members,and Nazis love working for police departments for a reason
I wouldn't even consider killing a vicious or rabid animal if under attack in this way let alone a human... probably the most painful possible way to exit this life period.
highrider
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Yeah, nobody cares about your hot tub settings, and it's really insensitive and shitty to post this.
Does your skin slather off from sitting in it for too long?
This story is disgusting, and this is the first time I've heard of it. Prison guards literally tortured and murdered a man and are getting away with it. Our prison system, among other things, is so systemically fucked up.
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