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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (Post-MGS4, Mr Dec 13) [Kamiya NOT Director, New Info]
- Thread starter Takao
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The game seems pretty rushed, so I would guess not.
Nora Kisaragi
Banned
Leaderboards, because this is an action game.
Action games can't have online?
Ninja Gaiden 3 is getting online, and that's very action-orientated.
Guyver
Member
The original guy that vamp was cloned from?? e.g Big boss = Solid Snake
Professor Beef
Banned
Brand recognition. Yoshi's first solo(ish) game on the SNES was called Super Mario World 2, after all. Same with Wario Land/Super Mario Land 3.
near
Gold Member
Name me some good action games that have an online component that isn't just leaderboards.
What do you feel are the good action games from this generation?
funkystudent
Member
cant wait for the official response to "so why isn't Kojima productions making this game anymore"
I could imagine Raiden appearing as character in Anarchy Reigns
Baller. PhD
Banned
What was Kojima's fuck up? I missed the stream.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Because it is their game/series and can name it what they want? Why does the name even matter so much?
cosmicblizzard
Banned
I'd be fine with that as long as the character is noticeably different from Vamp. Right now, that seems to be the case. He seems more like a troll that wants to party rather than an emo vampire that wants to die.
Because this Revengeance creation is a clear representation of trying to sell an orange as an apple. Platinum Games makes good fast-paced, stylish, action games. KojiPro makes good MGS games that are more about sustenance and story.
This game has Platinum Games' mark all over it. Of course, it will likely be an awesome action game with lots of flash and style. It will not, however, be a good MGS game. So why bother keeping up with the pretense?
Infinite Justice
Member
He never worked for PG to begin with, he was always just there as freelance while trying to build up Tango Gameworks.
Which he eventually sold to Zenimax. lol
So the next Super Mario could be an third person shooter and no one would care? SMH. You know there are expectations carried through brand names. Even as an action game they should retain at least something. People don't expect terrible stories from Metal Gear like they do for Platinum Games. They are at least competent.
Not that bad, the guy snickering in video makes me rage tho.
King of the Potato People
Member
Raiden must be able to put on his cyborg suit as easy as a pair of pants.
Or it's something else lame like a clone, son or sunny. A pre-patriots war could be interesting, but I'm not sure whether extending the drama beyond MGS4 is a good thing, even with a team as talented as PG.
Or it's something else lame like a clone, son or sunny. A pre-patriots war could be interesting, but I'm not sure whether extending the drama beyond MGS4 is a good thing, even with a team as talented as PG.
Just saw off his arms/legs and exchange his blood with artificial one and you're good to go.
It's probably just about cutting shit up though.
bigboss370
Member
don't care what anyone says, this shit ain't canon ;_;
So...they decided to scrap whatever engine Rising was running on. Now the original Rising guys are working on Fox Engine related stuff instead.
But Konami didn't want to just cancel Rising. Investors would not be happy if a Metal Gear game got canned. Platinum Games offered a solution: they make great action games in a relatively short time span. KJP conceded to let the game be post-MGS4 (and other design choices) to hurry up production as soon as possible. They had to appease Platinum, otherwise there may be no Rising and investors would be pissed.
I suppose that was the thought process behind this decision.
But Konami didn't want to just cancel Rising. Investors would not be happy if a Metal Gear game got canned. Platinum Games offered a solution: they make great action games in a relatively short time span. KJP conceded to let the game be post-MGS4 (and other design choices) to hurry up production as soon as possible. They had to appease Platinum, otherwise there may be no Rising and investors would be pissed.
I suppose that was the thought process behind this decision.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Can everything after 3 not be canon as well?
Multiplatform game
Looks like E3 2006 era MGS4. Obviously will look much better by the time its out.
SentientStone
Member
This. :'(
Cpt Conifer
Member
yo where is the source for there being no PC version? Don't see it in the OP, checked a few mainstream sites and wikipedia and they have not changed it. Right now I'm only seeing it in the OPs title.
astroturfing
Member
Multiplatform game
Looks like E3 2006 era MGS4. Obviously will look much better by the time its out.
yeah multiplat is the issue..... Platinum can't code for shit if they have both the 360 and PS3 to worry about, as we saw with Vanquish! oh wait...
Rahxephon91
Banned
Yeah Raiden has a geass now. So awesome.
Gouda Jouji
Member
I don't think that's what happened. On the new KP Report they said that development of actual game part of Rising had stalled, so Kojima stopped production. He then invited Platinum to see what the Rising team had done so far (maybe to offer advice?). Platinum had a bunch of ideas, and they must of been way better than what the original team had cause Kojima decided it would be better if they handled the game design part. They pretty much threw out most of what KP had done so far and created a new game. They even made the writers change the story because it being set between 2 & 4 restricted them too much. From the podcast it sounded like KP are letting Platinum do whatever they want.
Not so fast. Not as many people is interested in this game as in any of the main series titles.
I guess they will sell over 2m 360+PS3 but not by much. That's, of course, if the game isn't limited to Kinect and Move. If it is (I've not been following the news related to this game), then probably less than that.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Metal Gear Gaiden Sigma. I guess I'm okay with that.
Just watched the trailer!!! Holy shit!!! This game encompasses the best from Bayo and Vanquish. Such a step up from the trash that KP showed in the reveal trailer!
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It's MG, it's multiplatform. If Konami doesn't screw the release date it is a given it will sell at least 2 millions worldwide
Rahxephon91
Banned
I really don't think you can call any of this. I mean what are you basing an of this on?
keltickennedy
Member
Sucks that Kojima bombed the speech. Only thing I could make out was, "Oreo game" and "so sorry". Poor guy...
Trailer looked dope though and I'm super pumped for the game. Weird to hear the mixed reactions about Platinum developing it. But then again...This is GAF. Didn't they say that this game was going to be way more action based compared to the previous games? I mean.....what better developer could you have doing it? Platinum games are the best at the action genre.
Trailer looked dope though and I'm super pumped for the game. Weird to hear the mixed reactions about Platinum developing it. But then again...This is GAF. Didn't they say that this game was going to be way more action based compared to the previous games? I mean.....what better developer could you have doing it? Platinum games are the best at the action genre.
EmCeeGramr
Member
transfarevengeance
If its post MGS4 how could it be a retcon? Unless you're talking about Peacewalker being "MGS5".
SuperSonic1305
Member
The fact that they just changed the story for the hell of it means they make this shit up as they go.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Sounds like a Metal Gear Solid game to me.
And really the graphics look bad to you guys? Well whatever.
That's what worries me, Konami screwing something related to this game, and this kind of action games not being as popular. I think saying just 1m was too low, sorry. Guess I should have said 2m+
Oh, nothing. It's just my guess. Other titles like Vanquish or Bayonetta didn't sell exactly well, and while this game will definitely sell better because it's Metal Gear, I just wonder how many people will buy it because of that, even without being part of the main series (ie. Metal Gear Solid 5 (or 6 if you consider PW to be MGS5))
Well, it's being made, and you're going to enjoy it while they won't. Sounds like an overall win to me. I know I'll be enjoying the hell out of it.