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[Sojgat]

Edit: This game revolution review switched it to Easy. And then complained about how easy the game was.

Yeah, and there's no dodge move apparently.

 

[nullref]

The Penny Arcade Report review seems kind of pathetic.

It’s very easy to button mash your way through battles instead of actually paying attention to enemy attacks, so long as you make sure to look out for the occasional yellow gleam that indicates an unblockable attack.

In other words, while fun, Revengeance isn’t a terribly deep action game. It’s a simple, almost hypnotic rhythm of button mash, Blade Mode, rinse, repeat. You don’t juggle enemies or toss them into each other, you don’t have to deal with different enemies by using different strategies

There’s also no dodge by default, you have to purchase that as an upgraded skill using points earned by performing well in battle. I made it through the entire game without ever using it, simply because I didn’t care to purchase the ability. Maybe I should have, because later enemies have some very aggressive AI and seeking attacks which can’t be blocked, only evaded.

Another downer: Revengeance is short. Ridiculously short. You get a special mention at the end if you beat the game in under eight hours, but on Normal difficulty with several deaths and retries, I clocked in at just over three and a half.

Sounds like Platinum can be criticized for making Normal too easy, but still...

 

[Z3M0G]

Yeah, and there's no dodge move apparently.

Ok, I would like this cleared up...

Can you dodge?

If "Yes", how do you do it?

Could you do it in the demo?

 

[Midou]

Guess I will be playing on Very Hard.

I heard the contra/konami code unlocks the higher difficulties right?

 

[InfiniteNine]

Guess I will be playing on Very Hard.

I heard the contra/konami code unlocks the higher difficulties right?

Yeah, that will unlock all the difficulties.

 

[rvy]

Game is hard, bitch about it.
Easy mode is easy, bitch about.

lol, gaming journalism.

 

[papercamm]

Ok, I would like this cleared up...

Can you dodge?

If "Yes", how do you do it?

Could you do it in the demo?

You dodge by walking away from enemies when they attack. It's not a mechanic.
Edit: haha, whoops. I was completely wrong about that. Not sure how I missed it in the demo.

 

[Sojgat]

Ok, I would like this cleared up...

Can you dodge?

If "Yes", how do you do it?

Could you do it in the demo?

Yes there's a dodge (where Raiden slashes at the same time). Jump + Light Attack + a direction. Neutral gives you a backstep.

Game Rev reviewer is just terribad.

 

[jett]

Ok, I would like this cleared up...

Can you dodge?

If "Yes", how do you do it?

Could you do it in the demo?

Square and X at the same time, that's the dodge, it's in the demo too. In the final game it's a purchasable skill.

You dodge by walking away from enemies when they attack. It's not a mechanic.

what the fuck is this?

 

[rvy]

You dodge by walking away from enemies when they attack. It's not a mechanic.

No, you dodge by pressing X and Square. Or the 360 equivalent.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Yeah, dodge is in there but I have yet to use it. This really isn't a dodge-based game like DmC or God of War, it's more a block-based game. I never found myself needing to dodge much.

 

[Nemesis_]

You dodge by walking away from enemies when they attack. It's not a mechanic.

I can't believe people are missing the dodge thing. :/

 

[Bedlam]

You dodge by walking away from enemies when they attack. It's not a mechanic.

Wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99vyCca5RRQ

And yes, the dodge was in the demo as well.

 

[demidar]

I can't believe people are missing the dodge thing. :/

Seems misinformation is impossible to stamp out. What's worse is when it's carried with "righteous" indignation.

 

[zainetor]

Yeah, dodge is in there but I have yet to use it. This really isn't a dodge-based game like DmC or God of War, it's more a block-based game. I never found myself needing to dodge much.

yeah, try to block or run away from a mastif, when he is about to grab you XD

 

[jett]

Yeah, dodge is in there but I have yet to use it. This really isn't a dodge-based game like DmC or God of War, it's more a block-based game. I never found myself needing to dodge much.

The dodge is your savior for unblockable attacks. It also has an invincibility window. It's actually really quite useful.

 

[ultron87]

Is the tutorial in the full game the same one that was in the demo? That could explain not knowing about stuff like the dodge.

 

[TheSpoiler]

In other words, while fun, Revengeance isn’t a terribly deep action game. It’s a simple, almost hypnotic rhythm of button mash, Blade Mode, rinse, repeat. You don’t juggle enemies or toss them into each other, you don’t have to deal with different enemies by using different strategies, you just beat the crap out of everyone and everything until you can make use of Blade Mode and absorb their energy cells.

HAHAHAHHAHA

WHAT

NOT DEEP

AHAHAHAHAH

 

[Misterinenja]

I can't believe people are missing the dodge thing. :/

Where are those gifs from? The Bold and the Beautiful?

Horrible stuff mate.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

The dodge is your savior for unblockable attacks. It also has an invincibility window. It's actually really quite useful.

I may have to get more use out of it in playthrough 2. Maybe it will save me on harder difficulties.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Seriously these gifs are a disaster

 

[HitokiriNate85]

Ah, I got stuck as the last comment on the last page.

What's up with difficulty? Normal is a bit too easy? Start on hard?

 

[Midou]

Ah, I got stuck as the last comment on the last page.

What's up with difficulty? Normal is a bit too easy? Start on hard?

Yeah, or go for Very hard.

 

[Sojgat]

Ah, I got stuck as the last comment on the last page.

What's up with difficulty? Normal is a bit too easy? Start on hard?

Normal seems like it's designed so the game can be mashed through. It's a bit easy, so play on hard first if you're good at action games.

 

[HitokiriNate85]

Word. Thanks.

 

[zroid]

Seeing as the game's pretty short, I'll probably try to blitz it once on Normal and then replay it on Hard immediately after.

 

[Nemesis_]

I find it interesting that the game doesn't specifically teach dodge mechanics. So many people seem to have missed out on it.

 

[Fabrik]

Edit: This game revolution review switched it to Easy. And then complained about how easy the game was.

Seriously, some people shouldn't be allowed to write reviews. This is baffling.

 

[VeryGooster]

I find it interesting that the game doesn't specifically teach dodge mechanics. So many people seem to have missed out on it.

I didn't learn about it in the demo tutorial, but through a post in the MGR demo thread. heh

Looking forward to trying this out when I can.

 

[GuardianE]

Platinum continues to plug away in the shadow of greats like Bayonetta and DmC. I hope they can manage to match those efforts with one of their Wii U titles.

Does not compute.

 

[EatChildren]

Play on hard or go home, scrubs.

 

[Mupod]

Hard does feel just right so far. Only part I had serious trouble with were Raptors and I've got them figured out now.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

Play on hard or go home, scrubs.

So let's say I'm pretty good at these games, but don't like my first time through a game to be met with frustration or unexpected difficulty spikes.

Should I still start this on Hard? And if I start on Normal, will Hard then be too easy due to all the upgrades acquired in Normal?

 

[Ferr986]

I platinum'd Bayonetta (completed in Hard and NSC) yet I only could go though Ninja Gaiden 2 on Normal, everything up there was too hard .

I dont know where to start, hearing than this game is closer to NG2. I'll go up to Very Hard atleast...

 

[EatChildren]

So let's say I'm pretty good at these games, but don't like my first time through a game to be met with frustration or unexpected difficulty spikes.

Should I still start this on Hard? And if I start on Normal, will Hard then be too easy due to all the upgrades acquired in Normal?

Yes. I'm okay at games like this but hardly amazing. Hard is a good balanced challenge without resorting to frustration. It forces you to actually block/parry and focus on gobbling those delicious spinal fluids for a health refill.

Normal is ludicrously easy by comparison, in my opinion.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Yes. I'm okay at games like this but hardly amazing. Hard is a good balanced challenge without resorting to frustration. It forces you to actually block/parry and focus on gobbling those delicious spinal fluids for a health refill.

Normal is ludicrously easy by comparison, in my opinion.

I'd mirror this statement. I'm playing on normal and aside from a few difficulty spikes have had an easy time. It's much easier than the demo was even. If you're worried, play on normal your first time through to get the mechanics solidified in your head and learn how to beat each enemy type, then go hard.

 

[Mupod]

So let's say I'm pretty good at these games, but don't like my first time through a game to be met with frustration or unexpected difficulty spikes.

Should I still start this on Hard? And if I start on Normal, will Hard then be too easy due to all the upgrades acquired in Normal?

do you define frustration as 'I died three times so I threw my controller against the wall'?

I mean, I've fought enemies that felt impossible for the first few minutes but now I can literally dismantle them like any other schmuck. I'm not that far in though.

I also tend to make things hard on myself because I like riposting so much. Especially on the big sword guys who counter your counter etc.

 

[Nemesis_]

Yes. I'm okay at games like this but hardly amazing. Hard is a good balanced challenge without resorting to frustration. It forces you to actually block/parry and focus on gobbling those delicious spinal fluids for a health refill.

Normal is ludicrously easy by comparison, in my opinion.

Mmhmm. My review was based on Hard mode. I feel like it's the only way to appreciate the game and it's underlying mechanics properly.

 

[RS4-]

First play through should be at least on hard. Regardless, your second play through should be on Revengeance.

 

[demidar]

I really think reviews should be prefaced with the difficulty the reviewer played through to frame the rest of his/her points.

 

[Nemesis_]

First play through should be at least on hard. Regardless, your second play through should be on Revengeance.

Is there no point in Very Hard?

 

[EatChildren]

Very Hard remixes the encounters. I assume Revengeance does as well, or just uses Very Hard's with higher damage ratios.

 

[Pie and Beans]

I really think reviews should be prefaced with the difficulty the reviewer played through to frame the rest of his/her points.

And their proficiency in telling time. Next Platinum game review copy should come with this as the free swag:

 

[Nemesis_]

Very Hard remixes the encounters. I assume Revengeance does as well, or just uses Very Hard's with higher damage ratios.

Did you play on Hard, Eats? I'm trying to update the OP wherever possible.

 

[RS4-]

Is there no point in Very Hard?

No. Unless you care about titles (which don't have any achievements in terms of collecting them all). If you're a completionist though, I'm not 100% sure if you can meet the requirements by beating Revengeance mode and still unlock the lesser difficulty titles.

One title requires you to beat the game with S rank on all difficulties though.

Very Hard remixes the encounters. I assume Revengeance does as well, or just uses Very Hard's with higher damage ratios.

I only played Chapter 1 on Very Hard, then ended up finishing it on Revengeance; iirc, Rev. is just very hard with more health and damage. I can't say for certain if later levels have the same number of enemies.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

For me its gonna be:

Hard, default skin
Very hard, Grey Fox skin
Revengeance and other playthroughs, white prologue skin

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

do you define frustration as 'I died three times so I threw my controller against the wall'?

I mean, I've fought enemies that felt impossible for the first few minutes but now I can literally dismantle them like any other schmuck. I'm not that far in though.

I also tend to make things hard on myself because I like riposting so much. Especially on the big sword guys who counter your counter etc.

No, I'm okay with dying. I too love parry mechanics, so it sounds like Hard is the way to start.

 

[EatChildren]

Did you play on Hard, Eats? I'm trying to update the OP wherever possible.

Yep.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Yep.

Dem continues

 

[EatChildren]

Dem continues

Final boss fight touched me in ways I'd rather forget.