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Metal Gear Solid V announced (PS360, open world)
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hydrophilic attack
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You may have a point.
But there is this:
Interesting. Haven't heard of this rumour. Do you have a link?
I would be very happy if he came to Sony's conference instead. With Xbone's shitty policies I wouldn't want such a great game as a next-gen exclusive for Xbox.
Rising is going pc so you never know but so far it is only confirmed for ps3 and 360
That makes sense. I really don't expect the game to look that good though, because the demos so far have looked absolutely phenomenal. If that turns out to be true though, hot damn. They really do magic with the lighting and effects in Fox Engine.
Can you really do that though? I mean, the PS3 seems to have very specific, calculated hardware in comparison to a PC. The Cell in particular.
A mistake. Fox Engine is not compatible on the Wii UYou may have a point.
But there is this:
Well they said that the hardware has roughly the same specs as a PS3. It is not 100% the same.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Couldn't they have a game not running on the Fox Engine for Wii U?
Twin Snakes style MGS2 remake or something like that?
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Because the world needs a scene of Raiden jumping off of a Harrier missile and firing a Stinger in mid-air.
Although I guess ever since Rising that type of thing is in the series canon now.
Gun Animal
Member
MGS1, MGS3 and MGS
W were basically the best looking games ever released on their respective hardware. If Kojima is releasing a PS360 MGS game right at the end of their life-cycle, I'd expect nothing less than the best looking game ever released on either system.Hell, as it is, MGS4 still looks amazing and that was in 2008. Now look at the jump between MGS2 and MGS3. Woah.
edit: also, it's possible they are just pre-rendering the cutscenes like Naughty Dog. If you ignore all the cutscene footage and look solely at the gameplay footage of MGSV, it's really not all that impressive.
Yes it is possible but they are too busy with V and i don't think they have enough resources and manpower to be working on 2 MGS games now
MGS1, MGS3 and MGS
Hell, as it is, MGS4 still looks amazing and that was in 2008. Now look at the jump between MGS2 and MGS3. Woah.
You're breaking my heart by not including MGS 2. That was practically heralded as the greatest looking thing in gaming at the time, and rightly so. It still looks fantastic today.
I do agree with you though.
Some recent Kojima tweets.
So is this going to be middle east commentary? He's walking a fine line here. A fine line that won't make him leave the industry because no one in the industry cares enough to run him off. I mean just look at Levine with Infinite. A game that attempts to say something about race and then fucks it all up. Who am I kidding. The message will be "Perpetual violence and hatred sucks" Offending no sensible person and adding nothing new or interesting to the conversation.
So is this going to be middle east commentary? He's walking a fine line here. A fine line that won't make him leave the industry because no one in the industry cares enough to run him off. I mean just look at Levine with Infinite. A game that attempts to say something about race and then fucks it all up. Who am I kidding. The message will be "Perpetual violence and hatred sucks" Offending no sensible person and adding nothing new or interesting to the conversation.
MGS cutscenes were never pre-rendered and it is not something Kojima would do anyway look at MGS1. Saying it is not impressive is outrageous. It is not next-gen but it is definitely the best looking console game from the 7th generation.MGS1, MGS3 and MGS
Hell, as it is, MGS4 still looks amazing and that was in 2008. Now look at the jump between MGS2 and MGS3. Woah.
edit: also, it's possible they are just pre-rendering the cutscenes like Naughty Dog. If you ignore all the cutscene footage and look solely at the gameplay footage of MGSV, it's really not all that impressive.
Chico slaughtered or hanged..
Says who? Kojima himself said the fox engine is easily scalable.
They didn't do anything on the Wii so why would they be interested in the U all of a sudden? Plus like i said KP is busy with V and that's what they're focusing on right now and KP LA is working on mgo3 i don't think they have enough resources and manpower to be working on 2 different MGS games.
Ricko Suave
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I think my butt just threw up.
It means I just crapped my pants
Gun Animal
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MGS2 was the best looking game on the PS2... When it came out. In 2001. Same goes for MGS4.
Wrong. There is a pre-rendered cutscene in MGS4, the one in the middle of act 3 where Snake's command vest is always brown regardless of what you have it set to, even though it's supposed to be black by default in that act. The justification for making that cutscene pre-rendered was that there was too much going on in that scene to do it in real time---whose to say the same couldn't be said for every cutscene in MGSV? Besides, I don't see the big deal with pre-rendered cutscenes, as long as they're rendered in-engine and keep the general feel and atmosphere of the gameplay. I don't really care one way or another, I'm just saying it would explain a lot.
I agree completely, I guess I meant to say that it isn't that impressive compared to a lot of PC and 8th gen games. It's still got a lot of dithering going on for example, which is something I haven't seen in any 8th gen games, and the amount of visible polygons on characters, even in cutscenes, is noticeably lower than in the Last of Us's gameplay, and that's very current-gen. That's the only game I can think of on current-gen platforms that even comes close to MGSV, though, and MGSV is open world so... I guess we'll see what happens in a few days!
edit: feel like that came out wrong. MGSV is already shaping up to be the most actually **photorealistic** game ever released, not simply because of technical horsepower, but because of pure artistic talent and finesse. I just meant that the stuff that's actually up to hardware (Aliasing, Polys, texture resolution etc etc) isn't all that impressive even compared to footage of cross-gen games like Watch_Dogs. It's still probably the most well-polished game ever made, and ever to be made for some years.
But what I was referencing was the fact that he said it was "easily scalable," i.e. scale it down for WiiU since it's so "underpowered," so it wouldn't really be "2 different MGS" games.
[Don't own a Wii U, so no dog in this fight. Just wouldn't rule out the possibility is all.]
I am not saying it is impossible but it is highly unlikely now. Kojima and Nintendo aren't really that close. He loves Mario and Miyamoto is like his mentor but that's it. Something Kojima said back in 2001, although he released TTS 2 years later but still he had this to say
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
You mean the jump where the textures were less smooth and the FPS was halved.
MGS3 had better models and fire....and that's about it.
MGS3 running on MGS2 engine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGNpU1tKlxI
Negligible difference. Add more shrubbery and other bells n' whistles and you have MGS3.
MGS2 remains the graphical high point of the series. When it came out there were only a handful of games that met or surpassed it. Peace Walker ranks pretty high too in consideration of the platform it was one, although it didn't scale up to HD THAT well.
Killing_Joke
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I miss the good old days waiting for Kojima's E3 trailer. Now i'm here sweating balls hoping MS didn't pay him off. =(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHixJKpn8GU
7 damn years ago. Love Akio's delivery at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHixJKpn8GU
7 damn years ago. Love Akio's delivery at the end.
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Åesop
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I made this for the people who don't like Kojimas decisions:
SkylineRKR
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I personally prefer the look and framerate of 2 as well, but 3 had great looking water (the part after the Pain, in combination with the lighting, has to be one of the most impressive scenes of the Ps2) and a lot of the foliage was moving and thus felt alive.
MGS2 is mostly industrial grey, like the original. Which demands less detail than a living jungle setting.
Wat? textures were less smooth? MGS3 had much more complex texture work due to the environment alone when compared to MGS2's overly simplistic texturing.
Also the video you just added looks much worse than what we had in the final version of MGS3 - lower quality textures and of course there's no freakin foliage. The poly count difference between the two games must be really big overall favoring MGS3 of course.
The only thing that MGS2 had over MGS3 was frame-rate, visually MGS3 was a much more advanced and demanding game which was actually the reason for the lower frame-rate.
Dick Justice
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Nice, posting a video that showed what was basically a demonstration of how the game should look overall instead of the actual final game. The visuals were a huge step forward from 2, though it did come with a shitty framerate.
That's what they said. But they also indirectly hinted that the current gen versions won't look a 100% exactly like what we've seen in the trailer/demos so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ljdpDkosg&t=7m50s
Well I'm still excited for a Metal Gear Solid without Hayter... I get why he sounded so grizzled in MGS4 given solids accelerated aging... but it was the same in Peace Walker. His performances were getting grating.
The whole open world nature of GZ is exciting to me. That could change a lot for MGS.
The whole open world nature of GZ is exciting to me. That could change a lot for MGS.
Since you guys were discussing MGS3, here's a nice MGS3 stream on Euro Extreme No Kills
http://www.twitch.tv/threedogg
http://www.twitch.tv/threedogg
This is some extreme hyperbole but I still sometimes find it hard to believe that MGS3 was running on PS2. Some seriously impressive stuff during some of the scenes in that game, it remains one of the most technically impressive games for me, personally.
‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN
Went to check on KOJIMA Productions LA studio in progress.
‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN
There were fellows share common passion and there's positive future. I'm expecting this E3 will get back such hype.
‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN
E3 used to be really big ten few years ago. The world biggest intense festival where all creators from the world gather once a year.
Went to check on KOJIMA Productions LA studio in progress.
‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN
There were fellows share common passion and there's positive future. I'm expecting this E3 will get back such hype.
‏@HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN
E3 used to be really big ten few years ago. The world biggest intense festival where all creators from the world gather once a year.
Graphics Horse
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Sounds more like Deus Ex. But where you can choose different flight destinations instead of just prescripted order.
Well "Hideraji" is "Hideradio" Kojima's official podcast. I guess they will discuss MSGV there. http://www.kjp.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog/2013/05/000475.html
Graphics Horse
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And the virus thing.
I can't believe I forgot about that. Also LA being an island that Kojima borrowed for Shadow Moses. Another is the knife towards Snake's blue eyes. It really has been a while since I watched this movie since I can't remember almost anything in this movie.
Really? I was pretty impressed with the GDC MGSV trailer recutting all the footage + new stuff from the Spike Videogame Awards trailer - admittedly mainly because the crappy "Phantom Pain" trailer had to hide so much, but still.
I really didn't like it, nor did I like any MGS 4 trailers. I don't know, something about the editing rubs me the wrong way, not sure what it is. Still love the series and Kojima though.
I was just spoiled by the long gameplay trailers of MGS 2 and 3, and this adrenaline packed MGS 3 trailer.
He says that the short and long E3 trailers for MGSV will go online together with the E3 Special Edition of the HideRadio podcast on June 12 at 3 AM Japan time. We already know that they're updating the MGSV site and putting up the trailers though. So it's not really news.