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[TheOddOne]

Sounds like they are going to just talk about the final dev kits. The smallish update to the GPU speed seems like one of the things they are going to talk about.

 

[I-hate-u]

Is the PS4 GPU @ 800 MHz?

 

[Coffee Dog]

God, I'll never understand arguing over tiny increases in console graphics when a 680 poops on both.

 

[The Omega Man]

This changes everything

 

[toddhunter]

Good news if true.

The driver thing seems a bit strange though.

"Is our driver as good as it can be?"
"Nah, nowhere close"
"Ok, lets do a good one then"
"Yeah fair enough"

 

[Marked_Bravado]

Announcing an upgrade when you haven't announced your specs in the first place? lol

Hahaha. Is this true? Wow. I thought the specs were out.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

well that's the quote from Marc Whitten.

If it's from Whitten,recommend you add this to the OP post

 

[chadskin]

But, but ... Microsoft wanted us to not care about specs but games!

 

[Salmonbottle]

Announcing an upgrade when you haven't announced your specs in the first place? lol

Except.... That's not what's happening at all???

They said explicitly that they went from 800 to 852 or whatever. Please explain what's logically off about the statement.

 

[backbreaker65]

I guess the leak specs are true in a round about way.

 

[Various Artists]

And 52 of those megahertz goes to syncing apps with the cloud!

 

[intheinbetween]

Its also good they're doing these things before they ship the console. For all the criticism they have been getting, at least they were proactive about it.

that's my point, I'd rather see them fixing these DRM, specs, indies, etc.. things than sticking to their initial idea and release a system that many people would discard by default due to these issues.

 

[nib95]

I'll take any speed or hardware bump I can get. But God at Game Informer for parroting DF's 7790 comparison. They keep regurgitating DF's crap, same with the ram split thing too. Completely illogical comparison.

Xbox One GPU. 1.23Tflops. (1.3 Tflops if this speed bump is true)

768 Shaders
48 Texture Units
16 Render Units
12 CU's

7790. 1.79Tflops.

896 Shaders
56 Texture Units
16 Render Units
14 CU's

A much closer comparison is to the 7770, which is 1.28Tflops.

 

[derFeef]

Sounds like they are going to just talk about the final dev kits. The smallish update to the GPU speed seems like one of the things they are going to talk about.

Will be interesting to hear/read.

 

[FDC1]

Surprised they're still tweaking the machine, we're already in August.

How much this change does impact heating?

 

[gofreak]

Good news if true.

The driver thing seems a bit strange though.

"Is our driver as good as it can be?"
"Nah, nowhere close"
"Ok, lets do a good one then"
"Yeah fair enough"

Not that strange. Drivers typically start out conservative and improve a lot as new dev kits arrive.

 

[SirIgbyCeaser]

Hopefully it doesnt overheat if someone wants to test this.

http://m.gamespot.com/news/xbox-one-designed-to-be-switched-on-for-10-year-period-report-6412343

You know that most electronics can be turned on for 10 years? Gameboy laughs. That article is so dumb.

 

[dr_rus]

Good for them! Now their GPU is like +3% faster than it was.

 

[thuway]

Awesome news!!! The gap is shrinking. Sony it's on you now. Where's our 850 mhz PS4? #800mhzps4

 

[Averon]

Leadbetter is going to have a field day with this new piece of news.

 

[ekim]

If it's from Whitten,recommend you add this to the OP post

I did

 

[amardilo]

Neat, being closer to PS4 is better for everyone, though there's still a hefty gap, right?

I was thinking roughly the sane thing. The more of that gap that MS can narrow down the better it will be for games in general (3rd party devs get that little extra) but the gap between the PS4 and the Xbox One is still pretty big and Sony has some really great 1st party studios who could really get the most out of it.

 

[Nightengale]

53Mhz is not worthy of an announcement.

Point and laugh at Microsoft.

I think this is good news overall, but this is pretty obviously part of their 'PR strategy.'

I mean, be it OXM's fluff pieces, or Major Nelson's sharing of information, they're basically sharing out bite-sized goodies of information day-after-day, as inconsequential or boring some of these are. They're trying to drown away all their bad image by being showcasing positive aspects of the Xbox One daily.

It's a 'good strategy', but it's also a very insular strategy. It's kind of 'self-reassuring', and doesn't have the impact 'oomph' needed to really sway away consumers. Also, too much of these kind of news gives an impression that there's very little 'meat' behind their pushes.

They really need to have a mind-blowing showing at Gamescom, otherwise this all will backfire on them.

 

[BigDug13]

Man..there will always be the lingering "what if" questions on the back of our minds. If team had focused on providing raw power what would we have gotten instead?

We would have yet again had the most powerful console. Sony has never had the most raw power, especially since MS entered the game. And now that MS specifically aimed lower, that's turned a lot of people off, especially at their higher price point. At the same time, Cerny's team seems to have pushed the raw power angle more than they ever have before.

 

[Thrakier]

Is 53mhz a lot?

It's almost nothing. For comparison, my 660TI is overclocked up to 1300mhz from I think standard 1050/1100mhz. The difference is tiny, like 5frames at best. 53mhz are barely noticable and if that's something they need to announce, they probably are very desperate.

 

[lynux3]

Is 53mhz a lot?

No. It's less than a little.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

What does this mean for games?

 

[toddhunter]

Not that strange. Drivers typically start out conservative and improve a lot as new dev kits arrive.

That is what I meant. You kind of figure they would be making it better.

 

[Chip N Chance]

Not to make this a VS thread, but how would that compare to the PS4 now?

 

[EightBitNate]

This should add 2 more graphics at least.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

You know that most electronics can be turned on for 10 years? Gameboy laughs. That article is so dumb.

After how many consoles got rrod ylod this generation..lol please.

 

[skyfinch]

I don't believe anything Microsoft has to say unless it's coming from Cerny's beautiful lips.

 

[NotUS]

5 billion and 53 transistors

 

[S¡mon]

While the PS4 GPU still seems to be more powerful, this is good news for everybody.

 

[bill0527]

Why does it feel like they're still trying to cobble this thing together?

Everything about Xbox One feels like its been thrown together at the last minute. Like they haven't been prepared for anything. Seems awful late in the game to be doing this stuff when they are supposed to launch now in less than 4 months.

 

[benny_a]

5 billion and 53 transistors

Nice.

Alternatively: What is 53MHz in AI percentage?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Unfortunately it's not going to do much to raise the baseline.

Well, it's something at least.

I'll take it.

 

[gofreak]

That is what I meant. You kind of figure they would be making it better.

Oh right. Well, making a big deal out of the usual has been par for the course in official and unofficial xbox one messaging

 

[derFeef]

Good news = bad news now?

 

[toff74]

I'm sure this was released as good news Gaf.. Yet reading this thread it seems like they've done a bad thing or at least nothing worthwhile.

An increase in GPU clock speed is an increase in GPU clock speed no matter how you spin it. Its something POSITIVE.

One more time.. Its an increase in clock speed and it IS good news.

Reckon if you asked Cerny if he'd like a GPU clock speed increase in the PS4 he's go 'Nah! whats the point?!'

 

[Slayven]

Anyone else feels like there will be a rrod repeat?

 

[Law Abiding Stranger]

Poor Vegeta, no matter how much he tries he will never surpass Goku.

 

[Mr.Ock]

53MHz as in 53 million Hertz more? Wow.

 

[Majanew]

I'll take any speed or hardware bump I can get. But God at Game Informer for parroting DF's 7790 comparison. Completely illogical comparison.


Xbox One GPU. 1.23Tflops. (1.3 Tflops if these speed bump is true)

768 Shaders
48 Texture Units
16 Render Units
12 CU's

7790. 1.79Tflops.

896 Shaders
56 Texture Units
16 Render Units
14 CU's

A much closer comparison is to the 7770, which is 1.28Tflops.

And 7770's specs
640 Shaders
40 Texture Units
16 Render Units
10 CU's

So, Xbox One's GPU is a little better than the 7770. The 7770 is clocked at 1GHz, that's why the TFLOPS is outperforming Xbox One's. Ah, you edited the last part out.

That's why Xbox One getting a bump of 53MHz will push it above a 1GHz 7770's 1.28 TFLOPS.

 

[user1337]

lol Nib

I swear that has been posted by you like 2-3 times now in other threads

Not arguing wiht it though, cause I agree lol.

 

[Dead Prince]

Nice.

Alternatively: What is 53MHz in AI percentage?

371mhz if you consider 600% cloud compute power.

 

[Replicant]

#mess. A change this late in the year? It's like they're cobbling up this console without clear direction.

 

[BigDug13]

Good news = bad news now?

More like: Good but really minor news = why is this news?

 

[DrChicken]

 

[Templar_Dante]

#secretsauce boost.
Sorry Kaz, games up.
If you multiply 53MHZ by the infinite power of the cloud+the hidden wizard jizz super ram@192 jiggawatts. Thats alot of #secretsauce.

Sorry, couldnt resist MS PR speech
Cant wait for Leadbetter to annouce on DF how this kicks the Titan in the balls this evening. or, how the PS4 will lose next gen now (lol)