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Microsoft Q1: 2.4 M 360+XBO shipped
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Destiny, GTAV, Call of Duty, Far Cry, PS4 popularity, Holidays, Black Friday. Both PS4 and Xb1 will sell just fine.
Duxxy3
Member
Anything that pushes people to buy next gen consoles is good for gaming.
(secretly i'm tired of seeing friends still on their 360's)
You don't need to tell me, their efforts in Europe since the gaming divisions inception have dumbfounded me. 360 didn't do to bad there tho to be fair, 25m+ is about what PS3 did in the US.
This is hilarious. You know Sony are doing exactly the same thing right?
many places
Member
Oh come on...
Yep. The multiplats will help both systems do well.
I feel like there was good potential for a 360 successor in Europe but we all know what happened then.
ethomaz
Banned
Yeap... around 7.5m I guess it is a good estimate... can be lower or higher 5% but it is close enought
Well to be above Wii U Nintendo needs to ship less than 200-300k... I don't believe that... at least this quarter Wii U will be ahead yet.
PS. Or I'm guessing wrong... Wii U last quarter numbers was 7.3m, no?
Edit - Dammit... Wii U last number was 6.7m... so huge changes to Xbone be above.
neogaffer1
Banned
This only serves to remind me how big of a place Aqua's left on this forum.
What happened to Aquamarine?
It definitely will worldwide. I don't know about North America though (NPD). Think it will be close.
theprodigy
Member
uh let's see....
1. both Microsoft and Sony are now combining numbers like this, but more importantly:
2. these are always shipped numbers
also apparently Nintendo is doing the best by this logic since they're the only ones not combining stuff
Yeap... around 7.5m I guess it is a good estimate... can be lower or higher 5% but it is close enought
Well to be above Wii U Nintendo needs to ship less than 200-300k... I don't believe that... at least this quarter Wii U will be ahead yet.
PS. Or I'm guessing wrong... Wii U last quarter numbers was 7.3m, no?
no, shipments were 6.68m lol
Taking a break from GAF.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Considering that they nearly destroyed the entire brand last year. I'd say these numbers are pretty good.
Duxxy3
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Ohhhh dear god... fixed my post... unless Wii U shipped over 1 million the changes are huge.
The additional countries launching mean that any increase in Xb1 shipments doesn't really tell us anything about the relative success or otherwise. They could be stuffing channels in those countries or they could be selling well. We just don't know.
And whether they have shipped 7-7.5m, is that really useful at all? Surely what we want to know is how well they are selling through, and we haven't had any concrete data outside of the U.S. for a long time.
And whether they have shipped 7-7.5m, is that really useful at all? Surely what we want to know is how well they are selling through, and we haven't had any concrete data outside of the U.S. for a long time.
Right, and it started for them because of Vita.
SwiftDeath
Member
The only way I would draw that same conclusion would be to compare NPD sales of the 360 last year to this year. Comparing NPD sales by calendar quarter and trying to determine YOY shipment drops from that seems illogical, it would make far more sense to simply use past 360 shipment data and estimate the YOY decline from that like below.
Code:
Financial Year 2012/2013 -> 2013/2014 YOY changes for 360 shipments
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Quarter | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 |
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FY12/13 | 1.7 | 5.9 | 1.3 | 1.0 |
FY13/14 | 1.2 | 3.5 | 0.8 | ??? |
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YOY Change | -29.5% | -40.5% | -38.5% | ???
Average YOY change = -36.2%Also it is super confusing and unhelpful to start using calender year when talking about quarters when MS has such a offset financial year. IE Q1 Calendar = Q3 Financial
many places
Member
Senior in college here and xbox is still really popular. This is in dallas,tx.
dr_rus
Member
Ah but they don't. They release separate platforms sell-through as well as cumulative units shipments.
Is that why we have a PS3 LTD shipped? ;-)
They give milestones, they don't give cumulative lifetime anymore (unless they have changed very recently?) proof?
Captain Tuttle
Member
What happened?This only serves to remind me how big of a place Aqua's left on this forum.
Pretty good numbers for MS though, pleasantly surprised by Gaming and Devices, especially Surface.
what's sony doing to appeal to people outside of the greatest country in the world? be specific.
Requested to be banned.
Neuromancer
Member
I was wondering where she was, then I saw that thread.This only serves to remind me how big of a place Aqua's left on this forum.
I hope she comes back soon. Not because I care that much about numbers but because I always liked her.
Ambition
Member
Miles Quaritch
Member
How old are you, like 70 ?
HighResTomato
Member
Sony is releasing their numbers next week, see if that $23b you just claimed they did last quarter (can't find anything on $23b) reflects on the numbers.
Byron Bluth
Banned
The fact that they haven't announced Xbox One sales on their own for months and months is fact enough it isn't doing well.
Sony can't wait to announce their next milestone on a regular basis, while Microsoft fluffs their reports all the time.
Can't wait for Sunset Overdrive!
Sony can't wait to announce their next milestone on a regular basis, while Microsoft fluffs their reports all the time.
Can't wait for Sunset Overdrive!
FullMetaltech
Member
She got overwhelmed in that thread. I hope shes doing ok. She really was trying to do a good thing unfortunately she was getting heat by some. Cant have good things like alot aready said.
John Bender
Banned
Well, regarding Sony, at least we get "detailed" sales numbers (sold, not shipped) every 3 or 4 months. But last gen though....
Deadly Joker
Member
That's a great point. When was the last time Microsoft announced a new Xbox One sales milestone? I mean, it's been months.
DudeWithNoName
Member
Seriously. I know quite a few as well. After this holiday, any of them still lounging around in last gen can just go ahead and turn in their gaming card.
6m vs 7.5m~~ to XB1. Shipments of course.
Code:
Worldwide shipments
Oct-Dec Jan-Mar Apr-Jun [B]Jul-Sep[/B]
Xbox One+360 7.4 2.0 1.1 [B]2.4[/B]
PS4+PS3 7.8 3.7 3.5 [B]?[/B]Note that before PS4/Xbone arrived, Sony usually started shipments for holidays earlier than MS, which led to MS having better shipment results in Oct-Dec quarter. We shall see what will happen this year when both consoles can be found easily in stores. Jul-Sep for Sony can be much larger than this 2.4mil from MS if they have started those shipments earlier.
Well, what's the point of announcing a milestone if he competition already hit it?
Byron Bluth
Banned
yea, so get off my lawn.
TypuyBaran
Banned
It's completely bullshit, Sony's market cap is 20B, their TOTAL revenue if you don't even minus out the operating expenses etc. was 1.8B last quarter and not 23B. Net income was only a bit over 400mil, the prior quarter then lost almost 700mil.
A company with revenue of 23Bil would have a market cap SIGNIFICANTLY higher then 20Bil.
LOL, silly people talking about something they know nothing about.
airmangataosenai
Member
Sometimes reading Sales-Age stupidity can be headache inducing. It's unbelievable how out of touch some people here are and then go around to criticize Pachter when in actuality the general consensus here tends to be just as poorly informed.
To keep it simple: The XBO is indeed doing well. It is poised to most likely sell less than the 360 but not by the levels some are predicting here, more likely a marginal decline. It won't come close to the PS4 worldwide but it doesn't need to in order to justify it's existence, just do well enough to convince Microsoft to continue supporting the division which it is. The system on the extreme (Highly unlikely) low end will probably end up over 40 million, maybe as high as 70 million. Systems that sell like that aren't just discontinued the way people around here are claiming. It might not be ideal but to claim that they would drop a division over it is ridiculous.
Or that they just moved into 28 new markets.
TypuyBaran
Banned
Thank you!
You know the fanboys have gotten unbearable when the sane people start requesting forced exile.
Closer to 85m, should pass 90m next holiday.
Captain Tuttle
Member
That's a shame. Seriously, I learned a lot from her.
People can be real jerks
WOM must be game of the year or something.