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Microsoft Windows 10 event - October 26th
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Intel causing everyone headaches.
BoosterDuck
Banned
That's what I've been saying
But I hope Wacom's been getting worried so they can start pricing competitively and updating their Intuos/Cintiq lines
There's nothing directly comparable, but basically, a lot of money https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113580-REG/wacom_dth_2700_cintiq_27qhd_27_creative.html
I see it but I refuse to believe it. 16 hours of video is insane. Batteries aren't that good.
I can't imagine they tinkered with their software to get this performance because Intel doesn't allow tinkering with their hardware.
Not sure if it has been posted already but the Surface Studio video is up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/BzMLA8YIgG0
https://youtu.be/BzMLA8YIgG0
Barkley's Justice
Member
This shithead introducing the Surface Studio is unbearable.
Ergo Keyboard is really tempting me.
Ok, so someone in the market for something like this is used to these prices.
Panos isn't for everyone, but he's easily the best presenter in tech today and it's not even close. Dude, just ooozes charisma.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Had to go out and just caught up. The Surface Studio is gorgeous but I'll be waiting for future iterations.
The price is really high but I paid almost as much for my Cintiq so it's not totally out of line with what artists and designers are used to paying.
The price is really high but I paid almost as much for my Cintiq so it's not totally out of line with what artists and designers are used to paying.
tiredheadcrab
Member
What?
Also I had a keyboard like the ergonomic from MS a few years ago. I didnt like it that much and got a logitech soon after. I am interested to see what people will think of the new Macbooks tomorrow. MS blew it out of the park today.
What do you mean?
oh yeah, it's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary for an expense report.
People's initial comparison to the iMac is a mistake - totally different markets.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
That pricing is utterly insane, and in many ways, worse than Apple's.
$3K and ...
...no SSD, (I'd much rather have a 512GB SSD than hybrid - I'm done with spinning disks outside consoles).
... 8GB RAM
... a 965M (last-gen and already medium-end laptop chip)
... core i5 skylake
I just can't for the life of me imagine dropping three grand in basically 2017 and utilizing a spinning disk to load images into photoshop from c:/
Is this targeting every day users? Absolutely not. This is abbusiness device through and through; and the price isn't quite as hard to swallow.
But I work with multiple ad agencies all the time - a target I'd suspect is right in line with Microsoft'a sights - and I truly can't see them moving away from their large intuos pads to this.
$3K and ...
...no SSD, (I'd much rather have a 512GB SSD than hybrid - I'm done with spinning disks outside consoles).
... 8GB RAM
... a 965M (last-gen and already medium-end laptop chip)
... core i5 skylake
I just can't for the life of me imagine dropping three grand in basically 2017 and utilizing a spinning disk to load images into photoshop from c:/
Is this targeting every day users? Absolutely not. This is abbusiness device through and through; and the price isn't quite as hard to swallow.
But I work with multiple ad agencies all the time - a target I'd suspect is right in line with Microsoft'a sights - and I truly can't see them moving away from their large intuos pads to this.
I don't see any configuration options for just an SSD. There's only 1 and 2 TB hybrids.
Last Prime
Member
That guy really can sell a product.
peaceiscloser
Member
Microsoft announces VR headsets, yet their "best-in-class" laptop only has a 965m GPU making it unable to run VR . . . and then has the gall to price it at $2400. That's 800 dollars more than last year's equivalent model without 800 dollars of real benefit.
I understand Microsoft didn't want to repeat the mistake of using bleeding edge processors this year after what happened with Skylake bugs, but I can't imagine why they couldn't get Nvidia to give the Surface Book something VR capable.
I hope the hinge at least is a little sturdier this year. The thing was so wobbly that you could barely use the pen on the screen upright.
I understand Microsoft didn't want to repeat the mistake of using bleeding edge processors this year after what happened with Skylake bugs, but I can't imagine why they couldn't get Nvidia to give the Surface Book something VR capable.
I hope the hinge at least is a little sturdier this year. The thing was so wobbly that you could barely use the pen on the screen upright.
Not seeing a huge difference between that and my Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard that cost like $60. If you're looking for something with the same form, but a ton cheaper.
saving it for next year? Surface Book 2 and Surface Pro 5?
Frustrated_me
Member
The thing is that this isn't an iMac device, this is something completely different.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Ugh Surface 3 (non pro) is old as fuck, and we still don't have an update.
sure, I really just didn't feel like typing out the full name
Sony
Nintendo
When Apple announced their products and people say that it's overprised, the counterargument is always "yeah but you pay for the experience not for the specs". Why are people failing to take into account that the Surface Studio has a touchscreen and pen input? That is an actual tangible addition to the desktop experience. Not the grapics of the UI. It doesn't make sense.
Frustrated_me
Member
This is SO GOOD.
The price is a killer but if I had that kind of disposable income I would snatch one up in a heartbeat.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Yes but the current device is old as fuck this year aka right now.
Really wish they had a refresh out for the Holidays.
All the refreshes are coming in spring with redstone 2
Frustrated_me
Member
True, can't debate that. Probably a case of the hardware team resources being focused on the Studio this FY.
tiredheadcrab
Member
I think MS is waiting. Skylake was a glitchy release and made the SP4 and SB look kind of bad. Those have been fixed, but Intel left a bad impression and it was considering MS was the lead taker on those chips.
Intel dropped the ball on skylake. MS is just waiting to make sure these chips are stable for their devices.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Indeed.
I'm on mine right now, but how would they update it right now?
Its display is still good. The power is enough for what you'd expect an Atom CPU to do.
If they upgraded it, what improvement would warrant me spending another 500 on a non pro?
I'd be allllll over this hardware if it didn't run fucking Windows.
Once they truly reinvent the OS part of the deal, i'm jumping in. Windows 10 is just as terrible and top-heavy as every windows version before it.
It's time to finally ditch all that legacy garbage and create a fast, lean and modern OS.
Once they truly reinvent the OS part of the deal, i'm jumping in. Windows 10 is just as terrible and top-heavy as every windows version before it.
It's time to finally ditch all that legacy garbage and create a fast, lean and modern OS.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Reflecting on what I just saw:
Wanted a Courier, got something almost as appealing, but not for home use.
Looking forward to a new iMac announcement at this point (since Microsoft's philosophies with their Windows development path doesn't mesh with me).
- I didn't think there was anymore more insufferable than Jony Ives, but then Panos came along.
- Surface Studio is the only notable part of the show. Good stuff, except for the old GPU. :/
Wanted a Courier, got something almost as appealing, but not for home use.
Looking forward to a new iMac announcement at this point (since Microsoft's philosophies with their Windows development path doesn't mesh with me).
killertofu
Member
Microsoft is making the products I wish Apple were. If only I weren't so comfortable with Apple then this might have grabbed me
Could be like Apple's "Fusion Drive" tech. Combining an SSD and HDD as one logical drive, and intelligently figuring out what belongs on what.
The Jackdog
Member
its called studio for a reason, this isnt supposed to be your pro gaming pc.
im in marketing and myself and the people i worked with lost their minds seeing this.
im in marketing and myself and the people i worked with lost their minds seeing this.
Man, I wish I had the money to buy something like that. Looks so nice.
What's worse is that while you can download the latest display drivers that fix the issues mostly, MS's update system automatically downgrades it back to the manufacturers ancient glitchy drivers.
I'm still surprised what a mess Skylake is. MS at least releases updated drivers, but literally every other manufacturer has old glitch drivers. My i7 Skylake laptop will constantly have display driver issues and force close everything. I tried 3 different models (two i5's and an i7, all from different manufacturers) and the crappy integrated graphics card would glitch out on all of them. Working in photoshop or even Web browsing on Firefox is a mess (both force close randomly during use).
What's worse is that while you can download the latest display drivers that fix the issues mostly, MS's update system automatically downgrades it back to the manufacturers ancient glitchy drivers.
lastflowers
Banned
it's gonna be good.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
40% of The Verge reads like a facebook stream of consciousness diatribe.
djplaeskool
Member
Just got Surface Pro 4 about a month or so ago and it's been an awesome machine for me so far.
Seems like they're waiting until next year for a Pro 5?
Seems like they're waiting until next year for a Pro 5?
killertofu
Member
I'm guessing you can't upgrade this yourself right
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