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Migos Reportedly Refused To Perform With Drag Queens On SNL K Perry performance
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...but she is a champion and you are going to hear her roar...
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
Fight Song is by Rachel Platten and not Perry.
Roar by Katy Perry was used a few times iirc.
lmao yeah totally can't understand why a "real" band like tool isn't popular.
That's not Katy Perry brah. But regardless, she wasn't/isn't a Trump supporter lol
You just gotta understand the culture that most of these rappers come from. It's hyper masculine and not very LGBT friendly , but like the majority of all American subcultures, its progressing in the right direction.
EstoyBlackWaldo
Member
lmao, define real musician. This elitist phrasing is shit.
Red Liquorice
Member
Never heard of them.
I assume it's misguided machismo. Not sure what collaborating with Katy Perry says about their cred either, lol.
#ToolforSuperBowl lol
Angelus Errare
Banned
And the black community has people who call out shit too.
Puck Beaverton
Banned
I want other rappers to call out this dumb shit.
Guys this is sarcasm obviously....
Right?
I'm a big Tool fan and despise most pop and rap and this is too cringey to not be sarcasm.
TheLegendary
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Why do we gotta understand the culture? Sounds exactly like the defense for flying the Confederate flag. The "it's part of their culture" excuse is BS to the highest degree.
OG Shaka Zulu
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That's a ridiculous comparison. Rap's origin comes from the streets, Migos are street dudes. Do i need to point out why where they are from is impoverished, violent and hypermasculine? And Christianity, slavery, and colonialism did a # on black sexual expression and outside the box thinking.
There are plenty Black LGBTQ people and Black hetero allies doing the work and trying to school people. Blacks in general are slowly heading in that direction. I don't appreciate the tsk'ing from liberal outsiders whose ancestors are responsible for us being behind when it comes to sexuality in the first place.
Migos are homophobic idiots. I find bigger fault lies with Katy Perry. There's a chance she read their previous comments and she still did music with them and tossed her performers under the bus. Gay and Black people are stage props for her.
Interesting how the younger generation appears increasingly willing to ignore media based on the personality of the artist. I feel that my generation (born 1975) was brought up to ideally ignore all aspects of the artist outside their art, something akin to "pick music based on how it sounds rather than a cool music video."
This perhaps resembles a similar anthem of our time to be "colorblind", which is similarly unpopular today.
I think part of the "colorblind" movement was to allow people to be who they were, not necessarily supporting their opinion but not putting a large wall around them. Taking these rappers as an example, I would have a conversation with them to understand why they feel that way, and I might bring up some alternative ways to think about things based on my experience and upbringing, but I wouldn't push them to change. Seems kids today wouldn't have that conversation, preferring a more confrontational "join my opinion or suffer."
Fascinating times.
This perhaps resembles a similar anthem of our time to be "colorblind", which is similarly unpopular today.
I think part of the "colorblind" movement was to allow people to be who they were, not necessarily supporting their opinion but not putting a large wall around them. Taking these rappers as an example, I would have a conversation with them to understand why they feel that way, and I might bring up some alternative ways to think about things based on my experience and upbringing, but I wouldn't push them to change. Seems kids today wouldn't have that conversation, preferring a more confrontational "join my opinion or suffer."
Fascinating times.
Rentahamster
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Does it though? I'm struggling to come up with something from recent memory.
polyh3dron
Banned
Nail on the head, and it's transparent as all hell.
Also,
https://twitter.com/daysafterodeo/status/866276686739984386
This. So much.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
What a bunch of dickheads
Circle Jerk
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It's great how many people in here are trying to move the story over to Katy Perry appropriating black and gay culture over the people refusing to play with drag queens on stage. That's a conversation worth having, but it's pretty obvious that people are trying to ignore the shitty things the artists they like are doing.
If you are expecting Migos to be woke on any issue you're setting yourself up for disappointment. You can tell they're mad ignorant listening to any of their popular songs for more than 30 seconds.
It's like expecting Trump to make sense or something. Their music is catchy but they are no more woke than OJ da Juiceman.
IrishNinja
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trap was a mistake
perry too
perry too
The year is 2017 and LGBT rights are a prominent issue and these people are famous. There is no excuse for them to lack education and say gross fucking things. Where is their damn publicist???
Gotdatmoney
Member
Really a spineless move to cave to that shit.
Did you really miss the whole thing of her performing at the DNC and endorsing Hillary?
Puck Beaverton
Banned
It's amazing how cowardly it is. Perry can get away with telling Migos to deal with it or leave.
HammerOfThor
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Perry's new persona is such a fake corporate marketing ploy to make her stand out instead of have her rehash the same stuff for another 3 years(or however long an album cycle is).
Everything she publicly boasts she stands for is clearly fake and orchestrated as hell. Theres nothing about what she's been doing over the past couple months that seems remotely genuine. Its like the higher ups at the studio saw a lull with Gaga and Miley so they thought Perry could take that market. At least when Gaga was in the headlines it seemed(and still does) like she legit cared. Not saying Perry doesn't actually care, but to the extent she's publicizing it it's marketing.
tldr; Perry's new look extremely fake
Everything she publicly boasts she stands for is clearly fake and orchestrated as hell. Theres nothing about what she's been doing over the past couple months that seems remotely genuine. Its like the higher ups at the studio saw a lull with Gaga and Miley so they thought Perry could take that market. At least when Gaga was in the headlines it seemed(and still does) like she legit cared. Not saying Perry doesn't actually care, but to the extent she's publicizing it it's marketing.
tldr; Perry's new look extremely fake
polyh3dron
Banned
The fact that Juicy's trademark "yeah hoe" background vocal was dropped from that verse was a herculean display of restraint.
TheGameshark
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lol don't be that guy and I say that as someone who'd take tool over either of these people any day of the week
Lord Frieza
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You're giving far too much credit to "your generation" in this regard. I doubt anyone was really brought up being told to separate an artist from their personal life, it's more that you didn't know jack shit about their personal life and how shitty some of them are, especially as a young guy who wouldn't even look at a tabloid at the time
Your last paragraph is just trash. Can't even tell if it's serious or not
The facts are palpable.
Fact is, Migos are popular now and have entered the mainstream sphere. They are grown ass men responsible for their actions and they should be taken to task for this homophobic shit. It's not acceptable and it doesn't matter where the fuck they came from. You don't get to be on some hateful shit as damn near pop icons, and not get deserved blowback.
You're think of her family. Her parents are uber conservative Christians.
torre_avenue
Banned
B-b-but they're friends with Frank Ocean!
They can't be homophobic!
Dumb reasoning was once here and now it's gone.
They can't be homophobic!
Dumb reasoning was once here and now it's gone.
polyh3dron
Banned
Migos is not a cool guy. Eh hates drag queens and afraids of everything.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
Katy Perry is top 20 garbage just like Kanye or Lady Gaga.
They are fucking garbage, should never be posited as art in any conversation, and largely only care about money and fame.
Damn shame what happened, but what do you expect from people like that.
They are fucking garbage, should never be posited as art in any conversation, and largely only care about money and fame.
Damn shame what happened, but what do you expect from people like that.
Way to prove my point.
I've never heard of them, I'm not American though. And I wish I will never hear about them again if what I've read here is true. Katy Perry should had stood up on this, but I guess the orders how to act comes from the producers. Is there anything genuine in her public persona?
We made it!! Back with a new and improved, only mildly offensive Juicy J.!
polyh3dron
Banned
no lies detected
Lord Frieza
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Lol, sure. I'm sorry it's just a trash statement to degrade younger generations while trying hard to uplift yourself as some 'woke' individual above it all. I'm sure you've sat down with many bigots and hate-mongers and changed their mind easily
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