KittenMaster
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The end game is all about getting the ultimate weapons, AFAIK with the level 140 Guild Quest stuff, though that might not be as interesting.
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Parmadillo Marshmallow
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Are you guys sure that ALL of the Guild Hall quests are scaled to 2.5 players? It seems like when I'm offline and attempt the Guild Hall solo, the monsters fall just as quickly as in the Caravan.
Then I created an online room that nobody joined, so I said fuck it and I ran a quest anyway. Then it seemed like the monster had more HP.
I think the increased HP is only when you're online...
Then I created an online room that nobody joined, so I said fuck it and I ran a quest anyway. Then it seemed like the monster had more HP.
I think the increased HP is only when you're online...
KittenMaster
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Are you guys sure that ALL of the Guild Hall quests are scaled to 2.5 players? It seems like when I'm offline and attempt the Guild Hall solo, the monsters fall just as quickly as in the Caravan.
Then I created an online room that nobody joined, so I said fuck it and I ran a quest anyway. Then it seemed like the monster had more HP.
I think the increased HP is only when you're online...
Monsters in Guild Hall quests are scaled to 1 player if you're playing alone, though I'm pretty sure the HP is still higher than in Caravan quests (at least I'm assuming that's the case, it was that way in Tri).
Are you guys sure that ALL of the Guild Hall quests are scaled to 2.5 players? It seems like when I'm offline and attempt the Guild Hall solo, the monsters fall just as quickly as in the Caravan.
Monsters in Guild Hall quests are scaled to 1 player if you're playing alone, though I'm pretty sure the HP is still higher than in Caravan quests (at least I'm assuming that's the case, it was that way in Tri).
I kinda didn't want to say anything to contradict people because I don't know for sure and it's completely anecdotal... But that's been my experience today. I've been doing the HR 6 key quests solo and stuff is dropping just as fast as it does in caravan. It's made me question the common wisdom that nothing scales at all ever.
In MHFU I never even tried to the multiplayer content, and in Tri/3U I only did the multiplayer content with my wife, never solo. I've always believed that the multiplayer content was scaled for more people, period. Today's experience has me questioning that.
bennywhatever
Member
In regards to Guild Quests. I have a level 11 Kirin quest, and I'm G1. Can I effectively level it all the way up to 125 straight from where I am now?
It has a Bow/Bowgun preference, which I like, and I don't know if I'll be able to find another one like it.
It has a Bow/Bowgun preference, which I like, and I don't know if I'll be able to find another one like it.
The end game is all about getting the ultimate weapons, AFAIK with the level 140 Guild Quest stuff, though that might not be as interesting.
I'm really hoping 140 GQs are bullshit hard, like G+ to warrant the additional "grind." The GQ limit is frustrating though, yet requires community, so kind of cool
I believe the idea is that monsters in the multiplayer Guild area don't scale whether one person takes the quest or multiple people take the quest. But those in the single-player Guild area do effectively have less health, though still more than in the Caravan area.I kinda didn't want to say anything to contradict people because I don't know for sure and it's completely anecdotal... But that's been my experience today. I've been doing the HR 6 key quests solo and stuff is dropping just as fast as it does in caravan. It's made me question the common wisdom that nothing scales at all ever.
I'm tempted to confirm this again later by comparing the number of shots it takes to bring down something simple, like low rank Rathian.
In regards to Guild Quests. I have a level 11 Kirin quest, and I'm G1. Can I effectively level it all the way up to 125 straight from where I am now?
It has a Bow/Bowgun preference, which I like, and I don't know if I'll be able to find another one like it.
at 86 it requires g3 permit.
Jeff Vader
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I'm wondering that too since my own is lance/gunlance and that's my main.In regards to Guild Quests. I have a level 11 Kirin quest, and I'm G1. Can I effectively level it all the way up to 125 straight from where I am now?
It has a Bow/Bowgun preference, which I like, and I don't know if I'll be able to find another one like it.
I have experienced the real hell of Monster Hunter. It is a lv140 dual Yian Garuga GQ.
You thought Rajang and Teostra were full of horseshit? Try an instant rushdown which takes off 120 out of 150 hp even with 750~ def. Then try a poison flip which does just enough to make you think you can survive and take an antidote. Then try to take the antidote while they both smell blood and proceed to target you, and you only, until you die in a hail of beaks and screams and wonder why you ever wanted to make any armor set with Garuga X in it.
You'd think that after 10 years they'd adjust the instant rushdown attacks to have some windup but nope. They're retardedly powerful and you can't see them coming ever, especially when melee'ing.
You thought Rajang and Teostra were full of horseshit? Try an instant rushdown which takes off 120 out of 150 hp even with 750~ def. Then try a poison flip which does just enough to make you think you can survive and take an antidote. Then try to take the antidote while they both smell blood and proceed to target you, and you only, until you die in a hail of beaks and screams and wonder why you ever wanted to make any armor set with Garuga X in it.
You'd think that after 10 years they'd adjust the instant rushdown attacks to have some windup but nope. They're retardedly powerful and you can't see them coming ever, especially when melee'ing.
In regards to Guild Quests. I have a level 11 Kirin quest, and I'm G1. Can I effectively level it all the way up to 125 straight from where I am now?
It has a Bow/Bowgun preference, which I like, and I don't know if I'll be able to find another one like it.
Yes you can. You'll need to get G3 along the way, but you can always level it high.
bennywhatever
Member
Thanks guys. Looks like I need to get to G3.
Speaking of Kirin, that guy is cool as hell but really squirmy and seems to take forever to die. Any strategies to speed up a Kirin run?
Speaking of Kirin, that guy is cool as hell but really squirmy and seems to take forever to die. Any strategies to speed up a Kirin run?
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
When do hunters for hire return to the hall? I had 3 in the hall, and I sent 2 of them out ages ago, like probably 20 quests ago, and they still haven't shown up in the hall.
When do hunters for hire return to the hall? I had 3 in the hall, and I sent 2 of them out ages ago, like probably 20 quests ago, and they still haven't shown up in the hall.
You can only send one at a time, they will be back in two quests. They do not appear if you are online.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
You can only send one at a time, they will be back in two quests. They do not appear if you are online.
Weird, I mostly play offline and they still haven't returned after ~20 quests. Luckily they don't seem to be a big part of the game, I was just curious.
KittenMaster
Member
I'm really hoping 140 GQs are bullshit hard, like G+ to warrant the additional "grind." The GQ limit is frustrating though, yet requires community, so kind of cool
They are, especially since the best rewards comes from monsters like Rajang which are exceptionally painful.
Also, the fact that the itemless Chamelios quest has a short time limit is incredibly lame. I thought I could knock it out as a solo but it takes too long.
cavefishes
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Are you guys sure that ALL of the Guild Hall quests are scaled to 2.5 players? It seems like when I'm offline and attempt the Guild Hall solo, the monsters fall just as quickly as in the Caravan.
Then I created an online room that nobody joined, so I said fuck it and I ran a quest anyway. Then it seemed like the monster had more HP.
I think the increased HP is only when you're online...
Monsters in Guild Hall quests are scaled to 1 player if you're playing alone, though I'm pretty sure the HP is still higher than in Caravan quests (at least I'm assuming that's the case, it was that way in Tri).
Monster health does not change based on the amount of players in an online or offline room. There is a static multiplier that gets added to the monster's HP if you're playing online content, even if you're playing that content offline. It was the same in 3U, and with level appropriate gear Gathering Hall monsters will take longer. If you're using G-rank gear on HR monsters or HR gear on LR monsters you won't notice as much of a difference.
Online content is definitely still solo-able if you're competent, but it's balanced for multiple players.
I believe the idea is that monsters in the multiplayer Guild area don't scale whether one person takes the quest or multiple people take the quest. But those in the single-player Guild area do effectively have less health, though still more than in the Caravan area.
I'm tempted to confirm this again later by comparing the number of shots it takes to bring down something simple, like low rank Rathian.
Awesome. This has really improved my outlook for g rank seeing as there's no good time for me to play online for the foreseeable future.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Monster health does not change based on the amount of players in an online or offline room. There is a static multiplier that gets added to the monster's HP if you're playing online content, even if you're playing that content offline. It was the same in 3U, and with level appropriate gear Gathering Hall monsters will take longer. If you're using G-rank gear on HR monsters or HR gear on LR monsters you won't notice as much of a difference.
Online content is definitely still solo-able if you're competent, but it's balanced for multiple players.
Weird. I'm using rarity 4 gear, upgraded fully with Advanced Armor Spheres (I don't seem to have easy access to Hard Armor Spheres yet), in HR4 offline and Caravan 8*, and the monsters seem to take about the same amount of time either way.
My friend sent his DS to Japan two weeks ago to get it modded with this recording device or something. Finds out he won't be getting it back till like mid April so he ups and decides to get the MM 3DS bundle. Then he's gonna have Nintendo send the info to the new DS so he can get his games and such.
What's silly is that he's all butthurt that I'm now G3 while he's still G1. Saying that he's gonna have to solo/PUG his way to G3 because he doesn't want to be carried. As if being G3 suddenly means one can easily carry people in G1-G2. And he's just so adamant about it, it's kind of ridiculous.
What's silly is that he's all butthurt that I'm now G3 while he's still G1. Saying that he's gonna have to solo/PUG his way to G3 because he doesn't want to be carried. As if being G3 suddenly means one can easily carry people in G1-G2. And he's just so adamant about it, it's kind of ridiculous.
Is Juju melding the best way to "farm" charms? Currently I set 2 requests (can only afford that at the moment), do Steak Your Ground twice without saving, check the results and if I don't see anything I like, restart the game. The whole cycle takes about 2 minutes and nets around 7-10 charms.
No. Just make a charm farm set and farm that G2 quest instead. Done properly you can possibly score up to 10 Enduring Charms a run which can take 5~8 minutes.
If you really want efficiency you could set Juju melding and claim your talismans after 3 charm runs.
I tried the Juju meld reset thing once and it was terrible. You get like 3~5 enduring at best for 4 minutes of not playing the game.
The end game is all about getting the ultimate weapons, AFAIK with the level 140 Guild Quest stuff, though that might not be as interesting.
Unless you really loved getting smashed by RNG I would not recommend this end game to anyone that enjoys fun. On top of only getting 2~4 Beshackled pieces a run, at best, you have to hope that it's rare10 and that the randomized stats are actually worthwhile (raw, sharpness, element/status, affinity, defense bonus are all randomized within a range or set numbers). You can upgrade relics a limited number of times though to get their non-cap values to their max range though so I guess that's nice, though what stat is upgraded is random too if multiple.
I'm really hoping 140 GQs are bullshit hard, like G+ to warrant the additional "grind." The GQ limit is frustrating though, yet requires community, so kind of cool
They're hard but not stupid unfair hard. The frustrating thing is, again, the actual relics themselves. It's a nice way to extend playtime but I would do 140 GQs more as a thing to do than for relics. It's a fun way to see which pug triple carts at least.
They are, especially since the best rewards comes from monsters like Rajang which are exceptionally painful.
Also, the fact that the itemless Chamelios quest has a short time limit is incredibly lame. I thought I could knock it out as a solo but it takes too long.
There are reward tiers tied to monsters as well as GQ level?
There are reward tiers tied to monsters as well as GQ level?
Monster determines the weapon skin you get. Supposedly harder/Elder Dragon types yield more Beshackled than your random 140 Velo but I haven't done enough 140 Velo to say for sure.
Jeff Vader
Member
Did the Caravan 10* Diablos quest, got a hardhorn in the rewards even though I didn't break his horns. Feels good man.
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
Monster determines the weapon skin you get. Supposedly harder/Elder Dragon types yield more Beshackled than your random 140 Velo but I haven't done enough 140 Velo to say for sure.
I usually got 2-4 Beshackled weapons IIRC from 140 Velo/Rajang Guild Quests. I've gotten some great weapons from them, but man you get some of the ugliest skins.
I usually got 2-4 Beshackled weapons IIRC from 140 Velo/Rajang Guild Quests. I've gotten some great weapons from them, but man you get some of the ugliest skins.
I get about that much from 140 Kushala. :/
Someone teach me the secret to ammo inventory upkeep.
Always do the cat's fishing mini-game every three quests, you'll need fish for a lot of the ammo. Buy the ammo available at the stores over making it. It'll save you resources and time. Buying it when it's on sale in huge bulk will help a ton.
I always carry bombs on me and a lot of my sets (running one with Speed Setup and Bomb Boost) I bring materials to make a lot of bombs, so that's even more fishing and upkeep.
Someone teach me the secret to ammo inventory upkeep.
If LBG, use Bonus Shot. You get 50% or 33% extra ammo out of each rapid fire.
commanderpepper
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I got a G1 lobby open, hunting for fun and to learn these new monster patterns. Anyone is welcomed.
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Always do the cat's fishing mini-game every three quests, you'll need fish for a lot of the ammo. Buy the ammo available at the stores over making it. It'll save you resources and time. Buying it when it's on sale in huge bulk will help a ton.
I always carry bombs on me and a lot of my sets (running one with Speed Setup and Bomb Boost) I bring materials to make a lot of bombs, so that's even more fishing and upkeep.
I do this for bow coatings already but I only use power and close coatings rather than 500 different types of bullets that every BG seems to load.
You guys keep a notebook of ammo to fill up on?
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
I find the Velo/Rajang 140 to be pretty fast. Only takes 3-6 minutes to complete with a competent group.I get about that much from 140 Kushala. :/
Not sure how long a 140 Kusha takes.
I find the Velo/Rajang 140 to be pretty fast. Only takes 3-6 minutes to complete with a competent group.
Not sure how long a 140 Kusha takes.
5~8 minutes because when Kushala goes down he gets staggered forever.
Enigmatic Rainbow
Member
Cool, may try to find rooms with him later.5~8 minutes because when Kushala goes down he gets staggered forever.
Owlowiscious
Member
can you mount while apex is up and drive is down? I IG jump and do hits, but hear the bounce noise.
can you mount while apex is up and drive is down? I IG jump and do hits, but hear the bounce noise.
You can since you can gain mount strikes on the un-hardened parts.
Bay Area Folk - Capcom has announced the latest Monster Hunter Community College - April 11th at their HQ in San Mateo.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindo...-for-the-monster-hunter-caravan-tour-revealed
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindo...-for-the-monster-hunter-caravan-tour-revealed
For the tl;dr crowd, or just a quick reference:
March 28 & 29 @ Six Flags Magic Mountain
April 3-5 @ WonderCon 2015
April 11 @ Capcom U.S.A. office
I do this for bow coatings already but I only use power and close coatings rather than 500 different types of bullets that every BG seems to load.
You guys keep a notebook of ammo to fill up on?
I just make separate item sets for each bowgun I use. When the shop is on sale just buy a bunch of everything.
Item sets to the rescue! HBGs are pretty easy. That's just normal 2/3, pierce 1/2/3, paint, tranq and wyvern fire (because why not). It's just enough to fill the gunner's pouch 8 spots and leaves some room for ammo combines in the main pouch.I do this for bow coatings already but I only use power and close coatings rather than 500 different types of bullets that every BG seems to load.
You guys keep a notebook of ammo to fill up on?
For LBGs I'd want to put together a specific set for each element with the right combines, and probably another item set for status gunning.
Bay Area Folk - Capcom has announced the latest Monster Hunter Community College - April 11th at their HQ in San Mateo.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindo...-for-the-monster-hunter-caravan-tour-revealed
For the tl;dr crowd, or just a quick reference:
March 28 & 29 @ Six Flags Magic Mountain
April 3-5 @ WonderCon 2015
April 11 @ Capcom U.S.A. office
Oh nice, I will be attending Wonder Con next weekend. Can't wait!
Bay Area Folk - Capcom has announced the latest Monster Hunter Community College - April 11th at their HQ in San Mateo.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindo...-for-the-monster-hunter-caravan-tour-revealed
I'll be at six flags this weekend. Pretty excited to check all this out. I hope it's awesome.
Owlowiscious
Member
Ok but you're saying if I heard the apex bounce noise when jump attacking it's not gaining mount strikes?You can since you can gain mount strikes on the un-hardened parts.
Ok but you're saying if I heard the apex bounce noise when jump attacking it's not gaining mount strikes?
I'm not super sure. I assume you only gain mount strike if you see the yellow flash. Anything else is a normal attack or deflected?
Owlowiscious
Member
It makes a tiny tiny white spark.I'm not super sure. I assume you only gain mount strike if you see the yellow flash. Anything else is a normal attack or deflected?
Oh well, either way this just cements that I reallllly need to get the professor quests done.
It makes a tiny tiny white spark.
Oh well, either way this just cements that I reallllly need to get the professor quests done.
That's just the bounce spark since aerial attacks don't have a bounce animation, I think.
Even if it counted as mount strike it'd probably be a negligible amount. I guess someone would have to test by trying to mount an apex by only hitting the armored spots lol.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Any tips for Pink Rathian solo? It seems like any time she even touches me it's a hit. The most frustrating is when she just nicks me with her toe and I fall over. There seems to be no tell for that running toe nick attack.
Bacon_Boss
Member
Any tips for Pink Rathian solo? It seems like any time she even touches me it's a hit. The most frustrating is when she just nicks me with her toe and I fall over. There seems to be no tell for that running toe nick attack.
Stay at her butt, usually safer.
Anyone doing g2 stuff?