I genuinely don't get why people are hyped for this.
MK Fans: (apparently there are some out there)
- wasted oportunity to add new characters that belong to the MK world
- won't do anything innovative as a fighter
must... resist... obvious... MK putdowns...
- will almost certainly be 'toned down' to accomodate the expected crowds of dc fans rushing to buy
- not even the game the developers wanted to make; this has 'publisher dictated cash cow' written all over it
- you're getting this instead of a real MK game. Why wait until it gets released to get bitter / pissed / disapointed about that?
DC Fans:
- The DC licence gets second stringer status in the title, how the fuck do you think they're going to treat the characters?
- DC continuity takes another pasting... Earth MK? lawls.
- There's lots of companies out there who would love to make a decent DC game, but Midway are going to squeeze this turd out on an annual basis for the duration of the licence
- Is going to go lowest common denominator on character recognition and pick super heroes who would never dream of killing someone as it goes against their core belief systems (Superman, Batman) in a game all about killing someone just because you beat them in a fight. Now, if this game had picked characters who have no qualms whatsoever about killing off the opposition (Manhunter, Black Adam) you might have something interesting, but...
Seriously MK is fun because of the over the top violence. It's great fun playing with friends and punching them into a wall of spikes or having some huge bloody fatality.
I'm not so sure about that. I can't find any links right now, but I'm pretty sure I've read old interviews from the developers claiming that they wanted to make some kind of crossover game.
I genuinely don't get why people are hyped for this.
MK Fans: (apparently there are some out there)
- wasted oportunity to add new characters that belong to the MK world
- won't do anything innovative as a fighter
must... resist... obvious... MK putdowns...
- will almost certainly be 'toned down' to accomodate the expected crowds of dc fans rushing to buy
- not even the game the developers wanted to make; this has 'publisher dictated cash cow' written all over it
- you're getting this instead of a real MK game. Why wait until it gets released to get bitter / pissed / disapointed about that?
-Guess you've seen the full roster, though in any case this is a cross over game..there's no need to include new characters.
-Depends on your definition of "innovative", because just looks around: none of the upcoming fighters (or already released ones) did anything "innovative".
-Toning it down was always expected, heck it was announced since day one that it's a T-rated game; but there's blood, Fatalities and Brutalities.
-They always wanted to make a cross-over game, apparently they talked with Capcom but it seems the Japanese division (the HQ) didn't wanted. They were working on MK8, but the idea was presented to them..and they liked the concept.
-Not a real MK game? ..hehehe... ...There's nothing to be pissed,bitter, etc. The same ones that are pissed and bitter are the same ones that complain about anything and everything. The same ones that like going around talking about "how MK only sells because of blood"; yet now they say that "they are not buying it ,because "there's no blood and gore".
MrNyarlathotep said:
DC Fans:
- The DC licence gets second stringer status in the title, how the fuck do you think they're going to treat the characters?
- DC continuity takes another pasting... Earth MK? lawls.
- There's lots of companies out there who would love to make a decent DC game, but Midway are going to squeeze this turd out on an annual basis for the duration of the licence
- Is going to go lowest common denominator on character recognition and pick super heroes who would never dream of killing someone as it goes against their core belief systems (Superman, Batman) in a game all about killing someone just because you beat them in a fight. Now, if this game had picked characters who have no qualms whatsoever about killing off the opposition (Manhunter, Black Adam) you might have something interesting, but...
-Title was chosen because it "sounded" better, than DC Universe vs Mortal Kombat..the same way Predators vs Alien sounded weird for many. DC is designing the characters and story along with Midway, Midway can't do anything without the approval of DC.
-Earth MK? lawls yeah..just wait a few months.. lawls..
-Squeeze one every year? The contract is for 2 games..Two..Dos..not to mention that Midways has done/released DC-related games in the past, so they may have done something "good" to get something that important.
-Characters that don't kill, are not going to kill (i.e. Batman, Superman, etc).. DC Villains, will have Fatalities (*cough*The Joker? Lex Luthor?*cough)..everything's introduced in the upcoming comic and during the intro and explained even better during the "adventure mode"..which lets you play on both sides, to see their perspectives on the "cataclysmic event"..
Oh well..
I guess I'm wasting a lot of time (it's the same thing in every MK thread..), when even the guys at MK and DC are having a great time..at all the assumptions many are making based on:
-Quick interviews
-1 teaser trailer
-Pictures
-Character pictures
Sadly, the E3 demo will be really limited (4 characters, 2 stages)..but at least the San Diego Comic-Con will reveal some new stuff.
You can definitely see the current costume in that render, but the artists at Midway made some terrible changes to it (the zipper, purple, the collar, the design of the mask).
EDIT: Fair enough. I guess it's those changes, plus something about the overall look of the model, that make it look bad.
Not really. You can definitely see the current costume in that render, but the artists at Midway made some terrible changes to it (the zipper, purple, the collar).
Capcom used their licence with care and reverence to the source material, even down to giving Marvel the top billing in the game (protip: there's no such game as Capcom Vs Marvel) by choosing characters who somewhat realistically could handle themselves in a fight with other characters, going so far as to pick somewhat obscure heroes and villains over the 'big names' (at least to start with) and had movesets and character strengths somewhat relevant to the source material (with most of the capcom crew getting significant power upgrades to keep the playing field level)
I hope this turns out good, but its really, really hard to do so.
MKII is really fun and 3 is... okay. Nothing after that point has been better than Bloody Roar in my opinion. Most games have the screens and trailers then the epic fail and fanboy defense force arrives. This is a horrible start to say the least.
old Mortal Kombat games featured scanned real life models with awful rigid animation and garish , gaudy aesthetics.
so subsequently ,Mortal Kombat serie was never good to begin with.
You can definitely see the current costume in that render, but the artists at Midway made some terrible changes to it (the zipper, purple, the collar, the design of the mask).
EDIT: Fair enough. I guess it's those changes, plus something about the overall look of the model, that make it look bad.
Pick a 'superhero' type game thats coming out. Any of them.
Or one thats been released that used generic 'looky likey' superheros (City Of Heroes, Freedom Force).
You don't think the devs wouldn't have happily used instant recognition 'real' superheros and villains from DC rather than their own equivalents?
Yes, I have. But two things: one, some things don't transfer as well to 3D, and two, I actually prefer when artists don't draw every striation on every muscle. Like, David Mazzucchelli's work on Daredevil and Batman is some of my favourite work ever ever ever.
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It's like someone made Jessica Biel in Poser...
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Based on their last five games, I'm guessing the designers just walk around with their fingers in their ears and just stay off the internet. I hope somebody at midway is reading this thread though. Not like it'll make a difference, but still.
Remember when Midway said they wanted to reinvent the Mortal Kombat series, remove almost all the original characters and do something more "Gears of war" like in tone? What happened to that? I don't know why but I don't think this is the new-gen Mortal Kombat they wanted to make at all.
I also remember old rumors of a DC Vs Capcom. Kind of which that happened now as Capcom can at least do it with style and good game play mechanics, and don't have to gimp the main selling point of their franchise just to please the other. Gore was pretty much the only reason Mortal Kombat was even fun as a kid, that and the fact that the characters were essentially live action characters in daft costumes, now it's just dull soulless looking 3D models. Shame.
has the first podcast up. It's underneath the 'Download Art.' Not much said right now except that Shang Tsung will be revealed on gametrailers as well as the official reveal of Catwoman.
It's kind of disheartening to hear them kind of brush off broken gameplay mechanics by saying that every game has it's glitches. Shaolin Monks(a game I thought was fun and wish they would revisit with maybe a little more God of War influence) had to be the most glitch filled game I have EVER played. The game is only 5 or 6 hours long, but I probably encountered a major glitch every 30 minutes on my first play through.
Remember when Midway said they wanted to reinvent the Mortal Kombat series, remove almost all the original characters and do something more "Gears of war" like in tone?
