A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
I an old.Watch the South Park episode with Pewdiepie......
We're all grandpas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYDFhOxB0ok
I like Giant Bomb fucking with shit, but this is odd
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My 15 years old cousin was destroyed by JonTron beliefs
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I like Giant Bomb fucking with shit, but this is odd
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I've gotten over it. I don't much care now.
I'm still wondering if dick pics are a real thing or if it's some sort of internet joke. I see the joke on Reddit all the time and I'm wondering if girls are getting unsolicited dick pics all the time like that would somehow woo them.
Mr_Antimatter
Member
Per my wife, yes, this actually happens. The stuff she would get back when she was online dating nearly drove her mad.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Yup i agree, they have to know the consequences of their actions
A Fish Aficionado
I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
This makes me depressed, even morea than I am.
Just leave people alone.
bigmit3737
Member
Does anyone have a link to the video ? Im curious as to what he said .
I am sorry to hear about your cousin mate, it sucks. But seriously it is hard to take the words of hate against inmigrants from a son of Iranians, and even more laughable hearing his argumebt of "immigrants damagin the gene pool" when he is an ugly fat neckbeard, like come on, he is the things that he hates.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Then he is a Self-loathing maniac.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Yo. My wife (and one male friend) would constantly have older men drive next to them while they walked or sat at a bus stop, and just whip it out and start tugging back when we were teens..Miami, Florida. I still can't wrap my head around it all these years later..like, who does that shit? It wasn't ever the same guy either!
This is why every time a gaffer posts "why should I care about what this YouTube says/does" I shake my head.
Many of these youtubers have a huge following of millions of people, mostly kids/teenagers who are easily impressed. They have a lot more influence than other forms of media for the older generations
Many of these youtubers have a huge following of millions of people, mostly kids/teenagers who are easily impressed. They have a lot more influence than other forms of media for the older generations
chromatic9
Member
Boogie might say Jon is just experimenting trying on a onesie, TB will say its a big bad world so its best to separate art from the artist and Colin will say grow a pair.
WaterAstro
Member
It's how it is now. Every day people becoming celebrities. Worshipped by the masses.
I think it's a good lesson for your cousin. Enjoy the entertainment, but don't fall for the acting.
I think it's a good lesson for your cousin. Enjoy the entertainment, but don't fall for the acting.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
This is someone that she liked who came out as an asshole.
How hard is that to understand?
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Seconding this.
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Deleted member 10571
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Agreed, please do so. Maybe it'll help him too.
Spuck-uk
Banned
totalbiscuit is a gamergater, which tells you all you need to know about what a POS he is as well
Hyperactivity
Banned
I've seen it happen with other youtube/gaming personalities, but it always seemed like you could see how it happened.
This JonTron thing has been crushing. He was so damn good in his videos. Almost every one was going to be a hit.
Thankfully I dropped out when some of his earlier twitter comments, his sargon stream, and his argument with PBG happened, because it somehow got worse.
Idk man, Jontron is decently old, I've both followed him for a long while and still feel utterly confused as to why certain youtubers are popular (although yeah, I recognize their influence, and why someone would want to spend hours watching LPs)
This is one of the few bright spots to this whole mess. I'm safe in knowing he's good.
I'm making the same assumption about ProJared, and I'm hoping to dear god it's a safe one to make.
This JonTron thing has been crushing. He was so damn good in his videos. Almost every one was going to be a hit.
Thankfully I dropped out when some of his earlier twitter comments, his sargon stream, and his argument with PBG happened, because it somehow got worse.
Idk man, Jontron is decently old, I've both followed him for a long while and still feel utterly confused as to why certain youtubers are popular (although yeah, I recognize their influence, and why someone would want to spend hours watching LPs)
This is one of the few bright spots to this whole mess. I'm safe in knowing he's good.
I'm making the same assumption about ProJared, and I'm hoping to dear god it's a safe one to make.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
Would just like to chime in by saying I'm very glad pieces of shit like this user here are banned on Neogaf. It's one of the few major outlets for videogames that is relatively free from these people.
This should be pointed out to older people too, in my experience.
Cult of personality is a thing even among adults.
rocketskates
Member
Most true SP episode ever.Watch the South Park episode with Pewdiepie......
We're all grandpas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYDFhOxB0ok
I blame technology and Gen Z for this.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
That's not a good lesson when there are numerous celebrities who are good honest people. She shouldn't have to grow up thinking there are no role models among famous people.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I think more and more, the danger alarms start going off in my head when someone starts to get too into something, that, in the grand scheme of things, is barely a major controversy. Jontron with Blizzard last year is maybe a key example of what I'm talking about, looking back. Blizzard made a shitty move, but the way THAT was what Jontron had to make a separate video to speak from the heart about is.... strange?
Whenever I see someone who starts talking about gaming controversies so heavily, I just sort of blank out. I used to care more about the console wars, and keeping in tune with gaming news, until I lost the free time I used to have to play games.
It's almost ridiculous, and even disturbing, when you see people care so much about resolution, or console sales, or any of that other crap. When a company fucks up, yeah, call them out on it, but shit like crowning EA worst company of the year just demonstrates a complete lack of perspective. When a shitty article gets published, criticize it, sure, but sometimes there are just shitty articles that are published, either because the author isn't a good writer, didn't do his due research, etc. Sometimes the shitty article is entirely on the author, but it's yet another step to assume malicious intent. Sometimes a shitty article is a shitty article, and if it's about gaming, don't care so much about it.
Whenever I see someone who starts talking about gaming controversies so heavily, I just sort of blank out. I used to care more about the console wars, and keeping in tune with gaming news, until I lost the free time I used to have to play games.
It's almost ridiculous, and even disturbing, when you see people care so much about resolution, or console sales, or any of that other crap. When a company fucks up, yeah, call them out on it, but shit like crowning EA worst company of the year just demonstrates a complete lack of perspective. When a shitty article gets published, criticize it, sure, but sometimes there are just shitty articles that are published, either because the author isn't a good writer, didn't do his due research, etc. Sometimes the shitty article is entirely on the author, but it's yet another step to assume malicious intent. Sometimes a shitty article is a shitty article, and if it's about gaming, don't care so much about it.
Not really. They all seem to be 4channer meme types that are angsty and seem to blame everyone but themselves for their problems. Just like red pill idiots and trumpettes
Hayama Akito
Member
Thanks again guys. Honestly I don't know if is a good idea to send this thread to him, it's pretty much clear he doesn't give a shit after his "statement" video. Right now I'm more interested about what her friends at school will say today about this (99% sure they will don't care but anyway I'm glad she spread the message by herself).
I really enjoyed JonTron's older video (especially the Banjo Kazooie one), and am very disappointed on the direction he has gone. I hope he looks at this negative press and reflects on it, rather than see himself as a victim and dig himself even deeper.
Regarding the whole "I do not understand Youtube' thing, I once saw a video that was called "I am upset" and had 2 million views in 18 hours. Fucking ridiculous.
Regarding the whole "I do not understand Youtube' thing, I once saw a video that was called "I am upset" and had 2 million views in 18 hours. Fucking ridiculous.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
This is just getting older. Kids are stupid and focus on trivial shit. Adults are stupid and focus on trivial shit, too, but paying attention to the gaming fan universe definitely goes first when real life starts happening.
Thanks for sharing your story. Some good perspective there.
This and the OP have some really good points on the information kids/youth's get from YT. It is unfiltered "innocent" videos that without a doubt can affect them in a big way. I have a few cousins that lives on YT. Most, if not all of their info comes from that platform.
Recently I have been thinking a lot on how bad it can be. It is easy to share political and personals views with really no validation from sources etc. This is not the news media. Anyone can establish an audience and blatantly sway their personal and political views. It is a scary thought to have, to what this can lead to in the near future.
That comment in the article, man that's just so bloody sad.
This and the OP have some really good points on the information kids/youth's get from YT. It is unfiltered "innocent" videos that without a doubt can affect them in a big way. I have a few cousins that lives on YT. Most, if not all of their info comes from that platform.
Recently I have been thinking a lot on how bad it can be. It is easy to share political and personals views with really no validation from sources etc. This is not the news media. Anyone can establish an audience and blatantly sway their personal and political views. It is a scary thought to have, to what this can lead to in the near future.
shawnbuddy
Member
Kids shouldn't watch YouTube unmonitored, full stop. Parents expect it to be like commercial television, just another box to put them in front of, but it doesn't play by any of the expected rules. Your Minecraft streamer might think Anti-Semitism is hilarious, your Spider-Man and Elsa videos might have weird sex stuff in them, your toy videos might be sponsored ads.
demosthenes
Member
My friend who is online dating tried to show them to me as a joke, knowing I don't want to lol. It's 100% real.
Much edge.
Man, growing up I always thought I'd give my kids free reign mostly because I didn't think it could be that harmful but as I've grown up I start to understand that it might be okay for them to see a nipple or hear a "fuck, but I don't think I want them to be exposed to arguments in favor of racism until they're at least 18. I'll probably heavily restrict the internet for my kids until they're at least 13 when the day comes
It's rough being a parent these days, with access to information as it is you know. You can carefully monitor and control content access at home but your kid has friends who have mobile devices and they're going to eventually be exposed to something that you would absolutely not let them see if it were up to you.
So you gotta just prepare them for it, so that when they do see that stuff they make the right decisions afterwards. Still though... it's difficult.
Yeah, when we were growing up, our parents would try to hide sex and violence (mostly sex) from us, not ideological content.
It's a very weird situation, I never thought I would be victim of "won't someone think of the children?", but I also never thought I woudld have to protect my 8 year old niece from nazi propaganda inserted into let's play videos of minecraft. Like, I'm pretty good at predicting internet trends, but it really never crossed my mind, say, 5 or 6 years ago, that today I would see my niece with her phone watching a minecraft video and be thinking "is she going to be exposed to a racist propagandist?"
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I think it's a situation that will kind of correct itself, tho, as youtubers begin to realize and agree with Jim that, if they want a shot at that youtuber fame and fortune, they have to be clean, because the shit they say matter.
There's the occasional super edgelord cool guy freedom of speech nazi fighter who feels like a victim because he can't be racist without people talking back, but I think most youtubers who dream of fame are looking at the Pewhatever guy losing contracts and thinking "welp, I better have a modicum of common sense and self control"
vincenth69
Member
OP, you seem like a great cousin ! Maybe try to introduce new youtubers to her ? Or help her discover more stuff that she might not know about the hobby ?
Also, your english is great for someone who never had an english class.
Also, your english is great for someone who never had an english class.
Problem is that this isn't happening in the sterilized environment of NeoGAF. Future YouTubers are likely being more influenced by current YouTubers who mostly seem to rally around assholes. They see lots of thumbs ups and posts defending the assholes (on YouTube) and think "okay so apparently if you want an audience you need to be extra racist".
Of course, that's not how the world works, but they aren't going to college to get an MBA before launching their primordial YouTube career. They're likely just going to try to emulate who they were influenced by. The only way you could effective use pressure to change this course would be for ad-buyers to pull ads from YouTube so much that Google has to respond with better moderation... but I don't see that happening in the near future.
the most mountain of dews
Member
Even though I'm not a fan of his art/channel. More youtube personalities need to be like Dan from game grumps. Super chill, and understanding dude. I also bet Arin is happy that they have dan more than ever atm.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
Agreed.
And to echo others, OP is both a good person and good with English. Good on you, OP.
FortuneFaded
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He hasn't broken any rules of Youtube.
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