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Natal struggles to see Black people?
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Graphics Horse
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Vorador said:
it was
IGN > Gaf > Internet > Gaf
in this case
:lol Sounds like they just regurgitated it at Microsoft.Eurogamer said:
gamergirly
Member
Psychotext said:
I'm glad they responded or otherwise it was going to be a serious problem. The last thing MS wants is for the 360 to be labeled as racist
gamergirly said:
That's pretty much all they needed to do. It's early technology, and there's no reason to take any of this seriously. It's probably just a glitch that happens occasionally, but it's pure fodder for hilarious forums/comments sections across the net. Fun for all.
KZObsessed
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:lol :lol
tfur said:I like the fact that they point to the Sugar Ray video as proof that it is working. The Sugar Ray video has the actual FAKE footage edited into it... :lol
The spliced the content from the video on the left, into the video on the right...
Even still, the footage they showed had everyone running into a wall.
BLaZiN PRopHeT
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tfur said:
They have other videos up using different people. One of them is the rapper the game. You should check then out.
BLaZiN PRopHeT said:
Which IIRC doesn't show any Burnout footage.
The ball game is real. No doubt about it. It's been demoed live during the conference, and there are lots of demos with guest stars that actually show enough to be convincing, and looks to be quite fun.
Burnout demo tho? Calling huge BS. The videos are very carefully edited, you have the exact same footage repeated with different dudes, and when you do see (extremely rare) people's movements and the screen at the same time, it's very, very poorly responsive.
I can't believe no major website is commenting on this.
BLaZiN PRopHeT
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Alx
Member
Raist said:
All major websites said that they tried it and that it worked... so what's to believe, first hand impressions or youtube analysis ?
Not that it was perfect, some mentioned that they felt the cars were made heavier to fit the control, others mentioned occasional target loss, that needed 1 second reinitialization (which was fatal in-game, of course).
Anyway it's logical that this demo is rough compared to the in-house demos... but the level of scepticism here is sometimes difficult to understand. Especially for the driving demo, which is technically much easier to do than the ball game (yes, I know, "eyetoy had a similar game", except that it wasn't able to capture the whole body movement).
Yes it does. And a scene saturated with light could be annoying (actually it would be annoying for all systems).
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Don't tell me there is any truth to this? I'm at work and unable to see what you guys are seeing.
Raist said:
So, what about the journalists who tried the Burnout demo? I think some of the guys on Giantbomb mentioned using it, Eurogamer had impressions, as did IGN and at least a few other places (just google "natal burnout" if you want to read any of them). The general consensus was that it worked, though it was obviously a hacked together demo.
It seems to me that this might be the reason why websites aren't commenting on it. If (as they claim), they've tried the thing, the story becomes about the production of a promotional video rather than "they edited together the video to cover up the fact that the tech doesn't work", and the former is a much less interesting story.
gofreak said:OMGZ: the black lady on good morning america wasn't allowed play
Seriously though that PR response is kind of funny..that they had to respond at all. Though it does't outright deny the claimed issue, just says 'at launch' it'll work.
Come on gofreak why try to push such a ridiculous agenda? You're smarter than that.
p2535748 said:
Yes I know, hands-on etc. Although why should I trust a couple of lines from journalists more than what I do see in these vids, which are carefully edited and don't look very responsive and precise? When you see someone actually steer and the car isn't responding at all, it brings some questions.
I'm not saying it's a hoax, but I do question MS's marketing methods and the overall efficiency of Natal for games like Burnout, especially when they've originally not been developed to work with that peripheral.
Also, when you are directly involved in it, you are less likely to pick up the flaws, because there is the "wow factor" and also because you are focused on playing the thing first.
tfur said:I like the fact that they point to the Sugar Ray video as proof that it is working. The Sugar Ray video has the actual FAKE footage edited into it... :lol
The spliced the content from the video on the left, into the video on the right...
This is pretty damning, there is other identical footage in the videos to. I wonder if it was reading player input at all, or if it was just some kind of psychological
Graphics Horse
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Milabrega said:
The video spliced in is of a car driving in a straight line, falling off a ledge, hitting a wall, falling off another ledge, crashing and landing on its side. How are they trying to deceive you exactly?
Because the suggestion that every journalist is in on some grand conspiracy is ridiculous, especially considering that some of the journalists have no reason to lie and would basically have their website implode if they were found to be lying (Engadget and the other blog-sites come to mind). There's simply no meaningful benefit for them and would probably gain more from misreporting non-existent flaws rather than hiding real ones.Raist said:
The videos remind me of Amped and other bullshots where PR firms, for some reason, decide to fake stuff that doesn't need faking. It's really weird and I find their overreaching desire to control information to be mostly hilarious due to the incompetency they so frequently display at doing so.
Zachack said:
I didn't say that they are lying (hence the sentence that you have not quoted). When I say "trust" I just mean that their opinion on it has hardly more value than what we can see in the videos. I also did say I wasn't implying that it was a huge hoax.
It's not like these are stolen or leaked videos, they are made by MS themselves to promote their system.
Graphics Horse
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Xrenity said:
It's a camera, but also detects a reflected infrared pulse.
http://www.3dvsystems.com/technology/tech.html
Quest Love is going to try Natal soon... I wonder if it'll detect his fro? :lol
http://twitter.com/questlove
http://twitter.com/questlove