Yeah I'd say the US is definitely all about reenacting some history nowadays
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Nazi Airplane lands on Georgia Highway
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Yeah I'd say the US is definitely all about reenacting some history nowadays
Gordon Shumway
Banned
lol..Of course.
Here's an idea...then don't paint a swastika on your shit plane kit.
hobblygobbly
Member
Not completely on topic but there is a misunderstanding concerning the "iron cross" on the plane by posters mentioning it, it's not, that is the Balkenkreuz.
Balkenkreuz is not used in official capacity in Germany, the revised Iron Cross (officially called "Black Cross") is.
Iron Cross:
Balkenkreuz
Black Cross (Iron Cross Revised - combination of Balkenkreuz, used in official capacity today)
Balkenkreuz is not used in official capacity in Germany, the revised Iron Cross (officially called "Black Cross") is.
Iron Cross:
Balkenkreuz
Black Cross (Iron Cross Revised - combination of Balkenkreuz, used in official capacity today)
Not saying you're not wrong. Clearly this guy didn't intend to emergency land on a highway. But people really really really enjoy the aesthetics of WW2 military stuff. It borders on creepy (as far as it applied to the third reich) but I wouldn't say everybody fascinated with the military stuff is a nazi.
But at the same time, it is incredibly suspect to have your hobby in the public eye.
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
The Blood Drop Cross is not an Iron Cross and predates Nazi Germany.Yea, it's not a Nazi symbol...
KKK sure love it now though.
Not completely on topic but there is a misunderstanding concerning the "iron cross" on the plane by posters mentioning it, it's not, that is the Balkenkreuz.
Balkenkreuz is not used in official capacity in Germany, the revised Iron Cross is.
Iron Cross:
Balkenkreuz
Iron Cross (Revised combination of Balkenkreuz, used in official capacity today)
sure, but there's a Swastika on the tail
I wouldn't read too much into the markings.
http://www.sonexbuilders.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=90&start=10
Kit planes like the Sonex are fairly popular for people to make faux warbirds with full blown warbird paint schemes and they'll do meet ups and have faux airshows and mock dogfights with other owners and thunder mustangs for nothing more than the fun of it.
http://www.sonexbuilders.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=90&start=10
Kit planes like the Sonex are fairly popular for people to make faux warbirds with full blown warbird paint schemes and they'll do meet ups and have faux airshows and mock dogfights with other owners and thunder mustangs for nothing more than the fun of it.
Albino_Yeti
Member
What a badass! Involved in 825 aerial fights and never got shot down. Some of those Luftwaffe pilots were forces of nature. Gives even more of a testament to the grit and determination of the Allied Air Forces that they eventually won the battle of the skies.
Also, is everyone not noticing that this plane wasn't even the pilots? Maybe he is a Nazi sympathizer and maybe he isn't, but you can't tell that from a plane that's not even his.
Atlanta offsets a lot of the rest of Georgia for voting.
I've been to Georgia twice, both times I saw a lot of confederate flags.
But of course it's everywhere. I've seen that shit in upstate New York, and when I lived in PA, if you drove out west it was REALLY fucking bad. Basically an extension of West Virginia.
I said plural, places, there are a lot of really racist places in the country that don't get a pass on this stuff. Not just Georgia. Realistically, most of our country is fucked up when it comes to anything like this.
finowns
Member
If voting for Hillary is a measure of racist-ness, Orange County voted for her. Unless there's another Orange County besides the one in CA.
Naw. They felt pretty comfortable and unthreatened for some reason.
Or here is another idea: don't call people Nazis without viable proof. I had family that survived the Holocaust - this plane shit is trivial. Just some dude that tried to recreate something from history.
why is it okay to say white-trash? Why you play on race. Just say 'idiot or asshole' if you think he is. You have idiots in all color.
If Seinfeld can own hundreds and spend millions on air cooled VWs I think this guy can paint his plane. There is a difference between technology and politics.
hobblygobbly
Member
I know, but I'm talking about people calling the Balkenkreuz an Iron Cross when it isn't and saying it's used in Germany today, it's not.
The revised version is (and called Black Cross, forgot to mention that in earlier post), we don't use the Balkenkreuz either because even though it's not a Nazi symbol, the Nazis used it on all equipment, so nobody (government) in Germany uses the old Iron Cross or Balkenkreuz any more either.
Only revised versions.
I said we don't know if they are or not. Obviously we don't know.
I am saying that it's a bad fucking idea to put a swastika on your home kit plane.
QuantumZebra
Member
But then how would people vent their random rage?
Yep because the article states that he owns the pla... oh, wait, no it doesn't.
Oh.
Maintenance
Member
Not completely on topic but there is a misunderstanding concerning the "iron cross" on the plane by posters mentioning it, it's not, that is the Balkenkreuz.
Balkenkreuz is not used in official capacity in Germany, the revised Iron Cross is.
Iron Cross:
Balkenkreuz
Iron Cross (Revised combination of Balkenkreuz, used in official capacity today)
Revised Iron Cross looks like someone using Canvas Size for the first time.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Yeah, and? A lot of white-trash, racists in America don't consider themselves nor call themselves neonazis but sympathize with them.
You do realise aircooled VW are based on the aircraft technology of the period. Hitler was a major part of the history of VW and the Beetle. It does not make you a Nazi to like technology.
And a lot of people don't sympathize with them. What does it have to do with this thread? Also, please refrain from the racist remarks.
Thelonelykoopa
Member
It could have done without the swastika ; I doubt the pilot was actually a nazi though probably just a big war recreation fan though he should have choose one without a swastika. My history teacher in high-school loved collecting ww2 stuff but even he choose to use the WW1 German flag to hang on his classroom wall along with his less controversial WW2 Soviet Union Flag.
Stop repeating yourself. I got your point. As most other people do, I know that VW's were originally Nazi engineered. Jesus. It doesn't apply here. Are current VWs being painted with swastikas? It has nothing to do with this event.
This is some dude in Georgia who decided to paint a swastika on his home plane kit. It's has no historical significance other than trying to copy the Nazi paint design.
Zelda is an anti semite.
Velocity:Design:Comfort
Banned
ITT: I learn that because Seinfeld and one GAF poster (who is somehow the authority on racial symbols) have some interest in WW2 or German stuff, that it is ok to put swastikas and iron crosses on things in 2017 that are not even the original WW2 plane or a replica of it and that you shouldn't assume anything about that despite the goofy tone deaf as fuck decision to do so occurring in the first place.
And the Iron cross as seen in the US and among groups in Europe is 100% definitely a hate symbol. Things can transform in context over time and place. SPLC and ADL both have articles about it.
And the Iron cross as seen in the US and among groups in Europe is 100% definitely a hate symbol. Things can transform in context over time and place. SPLC and ADL both have articles about it.
TheCochese
Banned
Excuse you.
I shouldn't have singled out Georgia.
America has lost it's privilege for reasonable doubt.
They also don't read the OP. It wasn't his plane.
Squirrel Killer
Member
Exactly, the term "rivet counter" didn't come from nowhere.
Also this.
The owner exists somewhere in Georgia. I don't think most of us are talking about the mechanic that was flying it.
Psychoward
Banned
Yeah and they had dope uniforms too, that doesn't mean I'd wanna go walking around with a nazi armband on. There are plenty of different countries he could have chosen to paint the plane after, and he goes for the one with the swastika.
Albino_Yeti
Member
Which is funny, because the Soviets were responsible for millions upon millions of civilian deaths just like the Nazis. But they had the luxury of fighting on the Allied side, so most people look past it.
It's a very complex issue. The War was unquestionably tilted in the Allies favor because of the Eastern Front, as Germany couldn't throw their entire might at the West, so for that we owe the Soviets. The Allies would have eventually won without the Soviets most likely, especially once America got involved, but it would have been a faaaar more costly war if that was the case.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Tough call. We want to be accurate to history but Nazi stuff is gross. Unless we know more about the owner... I'll allow it.
Imperfected
Member
Maybe he just killed Heinrich Himmler and the only way he could escape the secret SS base was by hijacking an experimental Nazi shitbird and crash-landing it into modern Georgia. I don't know why everyone's leaping to conclusions about a guy just because he got caught flying around in a plane with a swastika on it, geez.