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ND Got GAF Feedback Re: UC3 Aiming Issues, Cutscene Viewer, Animation Changes Coming
- Thread starter RedRedSuit
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Get out of my head dude!!!
I'm sorry, but the "issues" in Uncharted, while not ideal, are far from game breaking. How about you go buy Skyrim instead, and then see what it's REALLY like to waste your money on a developer who truly doesn't give a shit about the product you receive? At least Naughty Dog promptly got on the issue, and is taking care of it. Bethesda has yet to even acknowledge its community with regards to the problems Skyrim has on PS3. It's disgusting.
I can understand your frustration, but Uncharted 3 is still playable, not broken, etc. You didn't waste your money, and I think ND has gone through admirable lengths to make sure you are satisfied in the end.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
It really isn't playable. The fact I stopped playing it so early on proves that, since it was one of my most anticipated games of the year.
Some people might deal with it and work around it, but for those of us who don't want to do that it just feels like shit.
The fact that the shooting mechanics have been ruined, such a core focus of the game, is just as bad, if not worse, than all of the glitches in a huge open world game. It's something that NEVER should have happened.
ND are usually flawless, and the fact they're addressing it is good, but they need to take a lot of blame here and can't be surprised people are angry.
Some people might deal with it and work around it, but for those of us who don't want to do that it just feels like shit.
The fact that the shooting mechanics have been ruined, such a core focus of the game, is just as bad, if not worse, than all of the glitches in a huge open world game. It's something that NEVER should have happened.
ND are usually flawless, and the fact they're addressing it is good, but they need to take a lot of blame here and can't be surprised people are angry.
I think the biggest problem was that many small changes that they got used to over a long period of time added up to a huge change for us, the people who didn't play all those small changes.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
So what about, ya know, all those other people who anticipated just as much, finished it, and found it quite playable?
Uh, Bethesda has acknowledged the PS3 issues and completed the patch. They have handed the PS3 and 360 patches over to the respective QA departments as Sony and Microsoft for testing. The patch should be available within a week or so.
It's a hell of a lot more difficult to work with a game as large as Skyrim, though, and Bethesda isn't exactly known for the technical prowess either.
Haha, yea okay. I'll bow out of this thread before I start saying things I'll regret.
So they've acknowledged that they failed to fix a bug that has persisted over the last 5 years? As far as I know, they've simply said "we're releasing a patch to address technical issues" and "we're working on a new patch, we'll announce details when we have them". Their communication to the community has been disgusting at best, and their reputation hardly excuses them from any kind of poor community management.
Hell, Resistance 3 was a steamy turd, technically, when it release, and Insomniac communicated each and every bug fix and problem they were working on days after release, and always kept their community informed. So did Naughty Dog. And a multitude of other development studios. Inexcusable.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
People have different definitions of the word. Lots of people try to argue Shadow of the Colossus on PS2 was playable, whereas it blatantly wasn't to me with a framerate of about 10 half the time.
I judge what's playable by my own standards. Just because some people enjoy it and can finish the game with the controls doesn't mean it's not unplayable for me. Considering the shooting in the previous games felt great, that's broken.
Lord!!! Nothing has been ruined.
There were some changes with the aiming that not everybody felt comfortable with. While I found the aiming different, I completed the game with no issues. Nothing broken, nothing ruined.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Considering that I too DETEST PS2 SOTC with a burning passion as overrated artsy horseshit, we are on the same team. I too hate the UC3 controls, although I can't go out and say unplayable, since it clearly was. It'd be far better with good controls though, especially on replays now that the intial wow factor is gone and the puzzles are all solved, you're just left with bad shooting sections.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I haven't played SOTC on PS3 yet, so I can't say if the game itself is bad. I really liked Ico when I played it last month!
But yeah, I could not play SOTC on PS2 due to framerate and I can't play UC3 because of these controls. Simple as that, really. Nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise because I've played it and I know how it felt.
But yeah, I could not play SOTC on PS2 due to framerate and I can't play UC3 because of these controls. Simple as that, really. Nothing anyone can say will convince me otherwise because I've played it and I know how it felt.
Yes
.la1n
Member
Obviously your brother is not wearing the proper GAF glasses.
Unplayable / Broken are terms that are not that of "opinion" 90% of the time.
If people can complete the game without major difficulty or inconvenience, then it is not broken. Broken is a game that crashes constantly, doesn't let you complete certain objectives, or suffers from considerable performance issues a majority of the time.
Unplayable, I can give you, as perhaps you are that sensitive to these things and needed better controls to play. However, the torches and pitch forks are less than necessary at this point. These things don't happen over night, and you really should be more patient. Patches can break other things in games, and rushing them is NEVER a good idea. It's best they take their time and get it right the first time.
While there are issues, I'm getting headshots galore and enjoying the hell out of the shooting... hardly unplayable.
Pretty much. I'm in the desert right now, and the part during the
sand storm
That's the thing. Nobody is trying to convince you of anything. I (as well as many others) understand your issue and if the game is unplayable for you then we have no right to say otherwise.
Our argument is that the game is not unplayable for everybody and it's definitely not broken.
I really hope you can feel satisfied when the patch releases though, because the game is pretty good.
Unplayable means you can't beat the game. I can probably beat it if I played. It is probably better to say, unenjoyable. Because I am not having any fun with the controls which is why I stopped playing.
Wow, the whining has been taken to another level. Never change GAF. There's a difference between unplayable and frustrating. The aiming is frustrating and you have to fight it sometimes but by no means is this game unplayable. I beat the game on crushing and hard if that's any consolation.
Er... I think the complaining is still happening because the patch hasn't come out yet. I guess we complainers are hoping that voicing complaints may fast track a patch through Sony QA.
Marty Chinn
Member
Why would you want to fast track something that could cause other issues? Just be happy they listened and it's being fixed. Let the proper course happen. Last thing we want is something rushed that breaks something.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
more like it should not have been there in the first fucking place. Fast tracking is how we got the game as it is today.
aparisi2274
Member
I kind of hope the patch brings back the cinema option. I would very much like to watch all the cinemas in the game again.
Finished the game while waiting for the patch. Oh well
I platinumed the game while waiting for it. I have no interest in the game any longer since I don't play multiplayer.
Your not alone.
I however thought I had a bug or a broken copy when I first had a gun put in my hands. I actually restarted it cause I couldn't aim worth a shit.
It's crazy how polarizing this is, because for me at least, it's easy to reproduce and show the aiming is broken, yes broken not just different.
When I try and move the reticule in a diagonal direction, it doesn't go in that direction, it moves on the X & Y axis.
perineumlick
Member
I don't know how developers like ND grin and bear comments like this, knowing how much hard work they put into their games. You make it sound like they just half-assed U3.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Exactly. I can't feel good ND are rushing a patch because shooting was fine in 1 and 2 and there's no excuse for a patch to be needed.
Some people simply aren't sensitive to this kind of thing. Me? I can feel a frame of lag when playing PC games no problem, and this was even easier to detect by comparison. I'm extremely sensitive to control issues, so this made the game pretty unplayable for me.
I'm also one of the only persons I know that can't play Warhawk because of the aiming controls. The acceleration, deadzone, and input lag are so brutal that the game is uncontrolable for me.
I'm also one of the only persons I know that can't play Warhawk because of the aiming controls. The acceleration, deadzone, and input lag are so brutal that the game is uncontrolable for me.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Who cares about Joe Public? I care about me and me alone.
Every consumer should.
Every consumer should.
Do you have a point?
Me too. Batman, Infamous 2, Resistance, BF3 and Skyrim are keeping me pretty busy.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
If they don't know or don't care, then maybe they won't know or care about the changes, either.
I think that applies for any other game that has bugs or glitches. Guess who reports them and gets shit fixed?
Alex
Member
Game is playable, of course but with the aiming how it is I'd really just rather not put up with it when I have other, non-aggravating games to play. Small glitches are one thing but when your core gameplay mechanic is tripped out in a game like this it's rough, I really just wonder how you miss something like that, especially in such a big, expensive release.
RedRedSuit
Member
Probably. See OP.
Cool I might just restart my playthrough when this patch hits!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I look forward to playing again after the patch, but the only thing left for me to achieve really is finding all the treasures, which is just a reminder of how they are now worthless because they don't count towards unlocking anything.
Doesn't work like that.
The point is they got their money, and they are still fixing things for a small select user base. Have some god damn gratitude. They could very well be acting like Bethesda, but they aren't.
I really am impressed by ND speed with this issue. I remember Arne responding a few days after release (which I'm sure is a hectic period at the office) and then to follow up by asking for people to come in and give persona feedback really is showing appreciation to you fanbase. Given how notorious Sony's approval process is (the same process that took Castle Crasher some couple of months to make it through), it damn impressive that it is already being approved a mere 3 weeks after release.
This is also for a non-gamebreaking issue (coming from a person who really hates the changes made in the U3 controls). Bioware has yet to patch ME2 with some well documented, gamebreaking glitches that have been around since launch (i.e. floating up on walls and literally having to quite out of the game to fix). There are a select few developers who care enough about their products to patch them at all and an even fewer number who strive to notably improve their games through patching (remember ND patched U2 a few months after release which GREATLY reduced load times across the board). To have a developer truly concerned about their product and trying to fix it immediately after release is something that really isn't seen regularly and ND definitely deserve some credit IMO.
I played through the game on normal and didn't notice the issue, but I'm not a huge shooter guy.
I wanted to come in here though to say how blown away I am at how ND responded. Way to go guys!
Lastly, I'd like to think that EVERY dev would be open to things like this, but rarely do they have the resources/leeway with publisher, that ND has. But still, many many kudos guys.
PS - The game was spectacular.
I wanted to come in here though to say how blown away I am at how ND responded. Way to go guys!
Lastly, I'd like to think that EVERY dev would be open to things like this, but rarely do they have the resources/leeway with publisher, that ND has. But still, many many kudos guys.
PS - The game was spectacular.