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Netflix pulls episode of kid's TV show after parent discovers NSFW content
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You're in disbelief that a doctor believes in guidelines established by consensus based on research, clinical cases, legal case, and experts in medicine, psychology, behaviorism, and social medicine?
Okay.
Impeccable
Member
Considering most forward thinking education systems have a much more aggressive and successful approach to sexual education based on science, yes.
Hook me up with some links, doc.
ClosingADoor
Member
Please show me the research where this is leading to abuse. That is a mighty large claim. You are taking this out of proportion and acting like there is full on hardcore porn in a kids show or something.
I don't know. Guess I just don't see how someone can be so apathetic to it. Never mind the unprofessional nature of it, just the idea of being passive to adults drawing penises for children to see, is gross to me too.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
See my post in this page. And im not even talking about cartoon dicks drawn in a wall that children wouldnt understand, im talking about real dicks and talking aboit sexuality openly in a cartoon.
As I see you are talking of 3-4 year olds shows, i cant give you examples because those type of shows only catered to that demo started appearing more widely in the 2000 (i dont know of the new maya the bee is only for infants, but the old one was ment for a bigger range of kids), but the shows I mentioned were aired at the same times any kid, from 3 to 15, could watch them.
Spiritual_Chaos
Banned
Well, it is a tradition.
A male body organ what a traumatic sight. Should've been a graphic carving of someone with their guts out.
Is this for real in America? Because wow.
Is this for real in America? Because wow.
petran79
Banned
I've marked both of these posts.
I'm off my shift in 4 hours, I'll be back to post some reading materials about where and why we get our guidelines.
Impeccable
Member
Throw in a little bit on your thoughts on things like Ontario, Canadas newer aggressive approach to sexual education. Also, where you are from would be helpful to parse.
PdotMichael
Banned
Well, Continental Europe has strong public broadcasting services, so when they picked/produced animation series (often in cooperation with Japanese animation studios) they looked for the better stuff.
The Japanese World Masterpiece Theater series which were adaptations of Western youth novels like A Dog Of Flanders, Heidi or Anne of Green Gables were the perfect animation shows for them.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Once upon a time... Life.
No need to say more
Man I loved that show, but my favourite one were the history of the world.
That opening still give me the chills.
And with your example, there it is, another example for Htown so he sees how open are european cartoons to the concept of sexuality.
Now that i remember, isnt there an old maya the bee episode using pollination to teach kids about similar matters?
Yeah but I wanted to separate things like Heidi and Marco, that were created in japan and then exported to europe to real collabs eropean broadcasting channels did with japanese animation studios.
The things is that europe has always been pretty welcoming to anime when america didnt touch it until the mid 90s (the butchering they did to mach gogogo/speed racee doesnt count), and thats why they have that huge stigma now that it isnt presnet for the majority of european public.
Dark Ninja
Member
Someone email Netflix a list of all the kids shows and movies with hidden sexual innuendos and penises to see if they take those down too.
I frankly find this a lot more disturbing, and SpongeBob is full of little things like this.
https://youtu.be/tGVJTBwA3TY
https://youtu.be/tGVJTBwA3TY
In a S02E14 Amalia's nipple can be seen for one frame. I dunno if it's on the Netflix version, but it's definitely there on the Kickstarter Blu-ray.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Oh, you seem to still not want to read my real european examples so your american point of view still stands.
Add to my examples the one that another petran79 added with Il était une fois... la Vie (Once upon a time... life) a cartoon show aimed for kids from 3 up to 15 (as explained before, during that era, infant cartoon shows were not prevalent, with broadcasting networks and studios in europe making cartoons for a wider range of kids), openly talking about sexuality showing a man a woman having sex.
Dont call people from other countries stupid just because your country has super puritanical point of views
Vicky the Viking, Asterix & Obelix and The Adventures of Tintin, have examples of actual honesttogod nudity being shown at some point
Once upon a time... Life.
No need to say more
Great series. My favorite was "Space".
Really? To me it seems bizarre that a penis drawing is seen as problematic. It's a penis, so what? As if children don't see real life flesh penises all the time, half of the children have one themselves.
Raylan Targaryen
Member
If only it was a gun, artist would have gotten a raise
Doctoglethorpe
Member
Thank you lady for being such a great dicktective. Now what was noticed by dozens will be seen by thousands.
Guys...not that youre wrong about the US sexual content hang ups vs violence, or the differences in euro programming, or that this persons method of doing a social media blast might not have been the best way to do it...but its not unreasonable for parents not to want to see dicks on their preschoolers shows.
Its just not.
Every parent has the right to want to have some control over what their 3 year old will consume. Its part of what being a parent is. And part of that right is the expectation that if that media is going to create a system where they mark and categorize this content a certain way with certain guidelines then they should follow them. Its perfectly understandable that Netflix pulls the episode. Your debates are fine, but lets not go ridiculously extreme one way to counter what you think is anothe extreme.
Its just not.
Every parent has the right to want to have some control over what their 3 year old will consume. Its part of what being a parent is. And part of that right is the expectation that if that media is going to create a system where they mark and categorize this content a certain way with certain guidelines then they should follow them. Its perfectly understandable that Netflix pulls the episode. Your debates are fine, but lets not go ridiculously extreme one way to counter what you think is anothe extreme.
Huw_Dawson
Member
Assuming half of this show's audience is male, then half of this show's audience has already seen a penis.
Granted there's no good reason to have this in the background of a kid's cartoon for the offense and psychological harm such things can cause to that most fragile of people, the parent.
Granted there's no good reason to have this in the background of a kid's cartoon for the offense and psychological harm such things can cause to that most fragile of people, the parent.
I'm actually from Toronto! Went to med school and residency at UofT, but currently practice in Michigan.
So my personal views on sexuality are more liberal and aggressive. Have to follow Michigan guidelines though.
Don't try to claim superiority for hand waiving an artist hiding a "dur hur dicks are funny" pic in a kid's show.
transience
Member
my kids used to watch maya the bee so this is killing me.
markofhavoc
Member
Holy shit did you forget the /s? You can't honestly believe this giant ass leap in judgment lol
I was just thinking about this. I remember penis drawings/carvings everywhere in my adolescence. Public restrooms, school restrooms, public and school playgrounds as well. Im not saying the picture is appropriate, but the reaction seems over the top (and yes I have kids). Take down the episode forget about it.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
It's a lot more than one frame, friend. It's only two when she jumps in the bath and then due to the higher clarity on the bluray the red mist doesn't obscure her at all for the entirety of the shot. But I wasn't about to go get screenshots of that for the post.
A. Re-read the studio's statement, that's pretty much what they say
B. You set that as the texture for that object, render a low quality screenshot with it, email it around, and then forget to change the texture back for when it goes to render the actual scene
C. Because it seems to be common in-industry to make rude, adult jokes with children's cartoons? As I said, look up some of the Rugrats stuff. It's likely just that, except it accidentally ended up in the cartoon itself. Acting like this is an outrage or anything other than an unfortunate situation is dumb.