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joelseph

Member
What are some good board games that I can play with mom/dad/grandma if they aren't really into the kind of board games people here generally discuss but are more unique then the usual suspects?

Codenames - party game that supports lots of players. Can be difficult for the clue giver
Wits and Wagers - trivia game for people that don't know trivia. All numbers which gets old
Sushi Go - drafting game with a cute theme
For $ale - auction game

Super-famicom has some really good suggestions too!
 

zulux21

Member
What are some good board games that I can play with mom/dad/grandma if they aren't really into the kind of board games people here generally discuss but are more unique then the usual suspects?

hanabi
codenames
dixit
and surprisingly the resistance have been pretty good with my family.
 
Ticket to Ride, Hanabi, World's Fair 1893, and Carcassonne are all easy to pick up.


Codenames - party game that supports lots of players. Can be difficult for the clue giver
Wits and Wagers - trivia game for people that don't know trivia. All numbers which gets old
Sushi Go - drafting game with a cute theme
For $ale - auction game

Super-famicom has some really good suggestions too!

Thanks for the suggestions

Wits and Wagers, Hanabi, Ticket to Ride, and Sushi Go seem like a good place to start. For Wits and Wagers between regular, deluxe, family, and party all of them seem like they have pros and cons which makes picking one hard. Ticket to Ride there seems to be tons of versions so I assume just stick with the original to start?
 
Thanks for the suggestions

Wits and Wagers, Hanabi, Ticket to Ride, and Sushi Go seem like a good place to start. For Wits and Wagers between regular, deluxe, family, and party all of them seem like they have pros and cons which makes picking one hard. Ticket to Ride there seems to be tons of versions so I assume just stick with the original to start?

Either go with the original (usa) or Europe depending where you live.
 
Thanks for the suggestions

Wits and Wagers, Hanabi, Ticket to Ride, and Sushi Go seem like a good place to start. For Wits and Wagers between regular, deluxe, family, and party all of them seem like they have pros and cons which makes picking one hard. Ticket to Ride there seems to be tons of versions so I assume just stick with the original to start?

If you get Hanabi, get the cardboard box version from Amazon. The tin box version is available at Target and is half the price, but I heard bad things about the quality of the cards themselves. I have the cardboard box version myself, and it's good.
 

zulux21

Member
If you get Hanabi, get the cardboard box version from Amazon. The tin box version is available at Target and is half the price, but I heard bad things about the quality of the cards themselves. I have the cardboard box version myself, and it's good.

also don't get the deluxe version.

it looks nice, but it's a lot more of a pain to play :/
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Tonight's board games and game night were Terraforming Mars (I took last place, first time playing) and Nexus Ops.
Both were fun. I may pick up Nexus Ops some time down the line.
 

panty

Member
Lot of abuse of the platform.
Follow the board game creators with good track records, don't let the 5% of bad result kickstarters ruin the 95% that are great.
This or what are you meaning with abuse?

I would love to talk about Myth but no one here has it or if they do they hate it lol. I did back Zcide though.
Why people hate it, is it this one? https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/140519/myth - it kinda looks like a game one of my group plays.

I'll be skipping it. I have more than enough modern Zombicide, and I'm happy enough with what I have. Sold off my KS for the first medieval one right as it arrived, it was just too much "stuff" that would never get played. CMON have a very successful marketing system on KS for their mini heavy stuff and it usually presents good value, but the costs are sneaking up there, first with Rising Sun & now this one.


Got to play more Scythe + Great Western Trail over the holiday weekend with good mates. Did much better at GWT. Really digging that one. "This War of Mine" should arrive today, excited to see how it turns out. From Kickstarter, snark.
For some reason I've skipped all earlier Zombicides so I don't have a problem backing this. I enjoy minis and co-op games so I'm pretty confident about enjoying this. CMON are really "good" when doing KSs, they just give you a ton of minis and pump up the prices and people will participate. I'm one to blame as well, backing this and RS.
I've spoken my mind on KS stuff, but it's been a while. My problem with most KS games is that it's just used as a pre-order system, rather than "this will never get produced if it's not crowd-funded." I don't think you should be seeing games from large established companies or top-tier designers on KS. It's just taking all risk out of the equation for the company. I feel that risk is what pushes a good product. Additionally, most games like these can be found at retail a few months after pledges are delivered (or sometimes even before) for quite a bit less than they were offered for on KS. That's a pretty big kick to the stomach for a lot of people.

All that being said, I'm not totally against KS when a new designer needs the platform to make something unique that hasn't been picked up by a big publisher. Gloomhaven is an excellent example of this. I also backed 7th Continent, which I'm really excited to try out when it finally gets to my doorstep in a couple of months. The KS ended in October, 2015, so it's been a long wait and there have been spans of several months where I completely forgot the game existed though.
Well when a big-name designer/publisher lists a game on KS it's basically done already and what comes to pre-ordering, I like stuff so I'm fine paying a little less and getting a ton of KS exclusives. I think you can expect a certain level of quality when dealing with a "big name game" such as Rising Sun and the comments on that have been really good.

I don't see what wrong with discussing Arkham or Destiny in here it is an analog gaming thread after all. We should look to grow our interests instead of segregated everything.

And I am weary about backing another CMON Kickstarter. I will pre-order it when they are close to production if I am interested. At this point I am pretty tired of their rehash and always late Kickstarter fulfillment. I am also backing only few Kickstarter games, the last few I found were under cook and need more play test.
It just seems that those people who play card games are doing exactly the opposite, they aren't playing anything else than card games. You can read a couple of pages and it's basically 80% Arkham/some other. I can't be the only one who feels like not posting here because of the constant flood of it.
 

Blizzard

Banned
This or what are you meaning with abuse?
I hope the other poster will forgive me answering for them, but I get the impression several people have this problem with Kickstarter:

1. Originally, it was a platform that allowed no-publisher, independent people to develop a game or product that would never be made otherwise. They received a kickstart of money that they could not otherwise afford.

2. Now, it has become a bit of a preorder platform for established developers, potentially even companies (CMON games gets flak for this I think?). They could presumably afford to make the game anyway, but instead they're asking for money up front.

3. Some might feel category 2 muddies the water for anyone left in category 1. Someone might expect company quality from a small developer, and/or someone might refuse to support a small developer because they've become cynical about companies using Kickstarter in general.
 

Big One

Banned
So I've bought the Star Wars Destiny Rey and Kylo starter sets from Funagain games and I have been enjoying them a lot!

I'm tempted to buy a second copy of each (I probably will eventually) due to them being incomplete decks, but I'm debating on whether I should do that, or buy a booster box (or a couple of boosters). The reason being for the later is that I'm still learning the ins and outs of the game, so I was thinking of buying a booster box so I can play sealed by combining the packs w/ the starter decks with the people I'm playing with. Is there any official rules on that? I know it would be difficult to play sealed with the booster packs alone due to the small amount of cards you get in them (plus there is no assured characters in them either).

Either way the game plays great. I like it even better than the Star Wars LCG which I also enjoyed a lot as well.
 

Experien

Member
I would love to talk about Myth but no one here has it or if they do they hate it lol. I did back Zcide though.

I do, I brought up the potential buyout that they can't talk about the other day. I love the game but have little kinks in it that I need to figure out before jumping fully in. Also can't wait for the next wave of Journeyman and Dark Frontier. I pledged way too much for Myth Journeyman but I will be getting a lot of good stuff.



So I've bought the Star Wars Destiny Rey and Kylo starter sets from Funagain games and I have been enjoying them a lot!

I'm tempted to buy a second copy of each (I probably will eventually) due to them being incomplete decks, but I'm debating on whether I should do that, or buy a booster box (or a couple of boosters). The reason being for the later is that I'm still learning the ins and outs of the game, so I was thinking of buying a booster box so I can play sealed by combining the packs w/ the starter decks with the people I'm playing with. Is there any official rules on that? I know it would be difficult to play sealed with the booster packs alone due to the small amount of cards you get in them (plus there is no assured characters in them either).

Either way the game plays great. I like it even better than the Star Wars LCG which I also enjoyed a lot as well.

I'd suggest not buying more starters unless you really want a 2nd Finn die. Get a booster box if you can, that way you get more of a variety of cards/die. And be sure to swing by the official Destiny thread!
 

Experien

Member
I could use a good space ship themed solo game. Still been eyeing Deep Space D-6.


Yes, that one does look interesting.

I have it and I like it. Haven't really played all the ships but it can be challenging. I've played maybe 12 games and won 3 or 4? Already backed the expansion on KS cause it is only $6 for a new challenge deck.

Also, XIA (if you have that) will be releasing its first expansion soon (KS backers are getting them soon) which comes with a bunch of stuff including SOLO play. Anxious to try that out since that is like the defacto space experience game.
 

Blizzard

Banned
I preordered The Wind Gambit today. I may never actually play Scythe, but I'm too invested now so I must collect all the things. :p
 

Karkador

Banned
I could use a good space ship themed solo game. Still been eyeing Deep Space D-6.

Have you ever looked at Space Alert? It's not a perfect solo game (it's meant to be multiplayer co-op), but definitely more of a fleshed out (and unique) experience than the rather Yahtzee-ish Deep Space D6.
 
I have it and I like it. Haven't really played all the ships but it can be challenging. I've played maybe 12 games and won 3 or 4? Already backed the expansion on KS cause it is only $6 for a new challenge deck.
Hmm. One reason I have held off is it looks too dependent on luck.
Also, XIA (if you have that) will be releasing its first expansion soon (KS backers are getting them soon) which comes with a bunch of stuff including SOLO play. Anxious to try that out since that is like the defacto space experience game.
That looks interesting.
Have you ever looked at Space Alert? It's not a perfect solo game (it's meant to be multiplayer co-op), but definitely more of a fleshed out (and unique) experience than the rather Yahtzee-ish Deep Space D6.
I have looked at it but I think it would be too hectic and stressful for solo play.
 
Might as well throw it out here

Does anyone who regulars this thread live in Connecitcut? I've been looking for a group to play with. The nearest adverised board game shop is 30 minutes away which I'm planning to check out next week.
 

zulux21

Member
Might as well throw it out here

Does anyone who regulars this thread live in Connecitcut? I've been looking for a group to play with. The nearest adverised board game shop is 30 minutes away which I'm planning to check out next week.
Wisconsin here, I really need to locate another gaming group or two in order to trade games with them lol.
 
What are some good board games that I can play with mom/dad/grandma if they aren't really into the kind of board games people here generally discuss but are more unique then the usual suspects?

Trying to come up with a few I didn't see anyone else mention that have worked out alright for me:

Tsuro (and it plays up to 8 players!)
Love Letter
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Just played a game of Ice Cool after the mail showed up with it in it. I won but was a bit underwhelmed. I think it was partly due to my inability to land any curve or jump shots; I wasn't hitting any of them right and I couldn't really get the penguin where I wanted it to go. Practice will remedy that I guess. I think another part of my level of whelm was that we were only playing with three: My wife, my daughter, and myself. A fourth person would have added a fourth round to the game, as well as another penguin to chase as the hall monitor and another potential obstacle to collide with or block doorways. Unfortunately, my weekly game group still hates dexterity games so I won't be bringing it out anywhere but home with the three of us. My son needs to hurry up and get older. Or at least develop some motor skills.

I set up my newly-arrived Zen Bins for Rebellion too. It makes me want to play the game right now but it'll probably be a few weeks before I can play again. I put it out there to my X-Wing group after posting pictures of my second game of it that I felt confident-enough after playing a second time and reading the rules to teach it, so if any of them wanted to try it (pretty much all of them are fans of Star Wars in general), that we could play it. No one took my up on the offer though. One guy did ask some questions about possibly incorporating it into an X-Wing or Armada campaign, which got me thinking about a cool mini-event or tourney utilizing the board for Rebellion. Assign numbers to each planet and different game or win conditions (use a ton of asteroids, only fly a swarm list with generic pilots, an escort game similar to the first mission in the original core set, a map with turbolasers on the board shooting the nearest ships, etc) to each planet, and then pair people up and assign battles over different planets to them at random. Maybe tie a loyalty system in where the winner takes control of that planet and that team (of Rebel/Imperial/Scum players) earns points throughout the day for each match round that a system is under their control.
But anyway, I wish I could play Rebellion right now.
 

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
So I've bought the Star Wars Destiny Rey and Kylo starter sets from Funagain games and I have been enjoying them a lot!

I'm tempted to buy a second copy of each (I probably will eventually) due to them being incomplete decks, but I'm debating on whether I should do that, or buy a booster box (or a couple of boosters). The reason being for the later is that I'm still learning the ins and outs of the game, so I was thinking of buying a booster box so I can play sealed by combining the packs w/ the starter decks with the people I'm playing with. Is there any official rules on that? I know it would be difficult to play sealed with the booster packs alone due to the small amount of cards you get in them (plus there is no assured characters in them either).

Either way the game plays great. I like it even better than the Star Wars LCG which I also enjoyed a lot as well.

I'd go booster box first, though getting the extra Force Throw + Mind Probe is good for blue decks,

I think a booster box will provide mucbh more initial variety for you though than more starters, though you'll eventually want them.,

Also come join us in the Destiny thread!
 
Thanks for all the suggestions for family friendly board games everyone I went with

Dixit (original)
Balderdash
Harabi (original)
Wits and Wagers (family)

All 4 seem like they'd be very easy to get any group into quickly and having a great time. Ticket to Ride is for sure on my to get list I just want to try it out first since it's hard to really grasp what makes it fun watching a video.
 

fenners

Member
Thanks for all the suggestions for family friendly board games everyone I went with

Dixit (original)
Balderdash
Harabi (original)
Wits and Wagers (family)

All 4 seem like they'd be very easy to get any group into quickly and having a great time. Ticket to Ride is for sure on my to get list I just want to try it out first since it's hard to really grasp what makes it fun watching a video.

You did good!

The "don't share knowledge' element of Hanabi can be hard to teach to people unfamiliar with modern Eurogamers. And the creative elements of Dixit can be hard to teach too - how to interpret & describe a relatively abstract picture etc. But those are easy to get over humps if you've got your audience right. Have fun!

Ticket To Ride's fun comes from the basic mechanic being a rummy set collection game mixed with the board's spatial connection game. It's sold so much, lasted for so long, because the core mechanics are so damn good as an intro game.
 

fenners

Member
This War of Mine is a well implemented interpretation of the video game. It's got the mood, the mechanics, the utterly bleak choices down pat. There's not a lot of optimistic choice in the game, you really are focused on survival. We need those damn food + water tokens, screw you.

But its rules set-up is really going to rub people up the wrong way, including the people I regularly play with. It was covered many times in the Kickstarter campaign that there would be a "Journal" teaching you to play, and the book of "Scripts" (i.e. numbered paragraphs like Agents of Smersh/Tales of Arabian Nights/Seafall). There's chunky numbered FAQ sections in there, sure, but it means there's no one referential book - if you have an issue, you find the phase in the Journal, hope it refers to a number, find that number, hope it refers to another number for more detail...

A lot of folks are going to hate that indirection, all in the name of 'learning as you', as we do with videogames...

Otherwise? Tough co-operative choices, narrowly focused on a handful of survivors of a modern gritty urban European war. You will choose to do stuff you hate to choose to do, all in the name of a few more food tokens or a bottle of moonshine.

Thumbs up.
 
You did good!

The "don't share knowledge' element of Hanabi can be hard to teach to people unfamiliar with modern Eurogamers. And the creative elements of Dixit can be hard to teach too - how to interpret & describe a relatively abstract picture etc. But those are easy to get over humps if you've got your audience right. Have fun!

Ticket To Ride's fun comes from the basic mechanic being a rummy set collection game mixed with the board's spatial connection game. It's sold so much, lasted for so long, because the core mechanics are so damn good as an intro game.

My family is full of musicians so I'm not worried about the interpret stuff of dixit being much of an issue. I'll keep your comments in mind when I introduce them to hanabi.

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I tried my first game of tiny epic galaxy didn't use the expansion outside of the score card and didn't use either mod. Really fun game it took me awhile to really get how to make use of my resources effectively (simulated 3 player game). Really like the mechanic of using culture to play on your opponents dice rolls keeps all 3 players actively involved even when it's not their specific turn.
 

zulux21

Member
This War of Mine is a well implemented interpretation of the video game. It's got the mood, the mechanics, the utterly bleak choices down pat. There's not a lot of optimistic choice in the game, you really are focused on survival. We need those damn food + water tokens, screw you.

But its rules set-up is really going to rub people up the wrong way, including the people I regularly play with. It was covered many times in the Kickstarter campaign that there would be a "Journal" teaching you to play, and the book of "Scripts" (i.e. numbered paragraphs like Agents of Smersh/Tales of Arabian Nights/Seafall). There's chunky numbered FAQ sections in there, sure, but it means there's no one referential book - if you have an issue, you find the phase in the Journal, hope it refers to a number, find that number, hope it refers to another number for more detail...

A lot of folks are going to hate that indirection, all in the name of 'learning as you', as we do with videogames...

Otherwise? Tough co-operative choices, narrowly focused on a handful of survivors of a modern gritty urban European war. You will choose to do stuff you hate to choose to do, all in the name of a few more food tokens or a bottle of moonshine.

Thumbs up.

good to hear as the complaints will likely get fixed on BBG. I hope my copy ships soon. sucks that I have to wait because I bought the extra expansions.


in other thoughts I had a nice find at work today.
I picked up
World of Warcraft: The Boardgame + Shadow of War expansion + The Burning Crusade expansion.
as well as World of Warcraft: The Adventure Game.
for like $10. (my total was $22 but I also picked up an instant pot :p)

I will have to sit down and make sure they are all there at some point but it looked like they were. and then figure out if they interest me at all. The board game looks nifty but if it's 2-3 hours of competitive play that is going to be hard to find someone to play with :p.

anyone have any thoughts on the game.
 
I'm eventually going to do a full write up, but I feel like Codex is the best game nobody is talking about. I'm continually impressed with how finely tuned it is, as well as how great it plays.

In other news, L5R is definitely high on my Gen Con list. I wonder how many copies FFG is going to bring. Definitely my first destination.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Did anyone else order the kitchen sink Ember Mage Nights package with the fancy box? I'm hoping to get the chainmail one I think.
 
It just seems that those people who play card games are doing exactly the opposite, they aren't playing anything else than card games. You can read a couple of pages and it's basically 80% Arkham/some other. I can't be the only one who feels like not posting here because of the constant flood of it.

I played all kind of games so are "those" card games people, and I don't see what is wrong with discussing Arkham card game here. If you never play it then don't make such ignorant comments about the game. It's is essentially Arkham Files board game distill into a card forms. It allow for flexibility that Arkham and Eldritch board cannot deleivered and at the same time a cohesive story telling that was sorely lacking. Just because the game didn't come with a board doesn't mean it's not a board game. It's probably a better "board game" than most of the rehash and half cooked stuffs done by CMON. And speaking of that when people tell that company abuse KS, CMON is probably the biggest offender. They are a publicly traded company yet still using crowndfunding to fund their projects that never deliver on time. So what if they gave you a lot of miniatures, it still not a good deal if half of them are junk you don't need. Also please don't get me wrong I am not one of those that shun dice fest games actually I am running a campaign of Black Plague right now. I love throwing dice and moving miniatures just as much as moving cubes in heavy Euro but what CMON is doing is plainly just taking advantage of their gullible customers.

Also who the heck are you to decide what games can and cannot be talk about it here? I think you are pretty rude.
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
I played all kind of games so are "those" card games people, but I and I don't see what is wrong with discussing Arkham card game here. If you never play it then don't make such ignorant comment about the game. It's is essentially Arkham Files board game distill into a card forms. It allow for flexibility that Arkham and Eldritch and at the same time a cohesive story telling that was sorely lacking. Just because the game didn't come with a board doesn't mean it's not a board game. It's probably a better "board game" than most of the rehash and half cooked stuffs done by CMON. And speaking of that when people tell that company abuse KS, CMON is probably the biggest offender. They are a publicly traded company yet still using crowndfunding funding to fund their projects that never deliver on time. So what of they give you a lot of miniatures, it still not a good deal if half of it is junk you don't need. I Don't get me wrong I am not one of those that shun dice fest games actually I am running a campaign of Black Plague right now and I love throwing dice and moving miniatures just as much as moving cubes in heavy Euro but what CMON is doing is plainly just taking advantage of their gullible customers.

Also who the heck are you to decide what games can and cannot be talk about it here? I think you are pretty rude.

This.

A few pages back I was discussing Descent. Arkham is the only card game I happen to play. Pretty ridiculous comments. Well we have am Arkham thread now so he doesn't have to worry about it :p
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
I do, I brought up the potential buyout that they can't talk about the other day. I love the game but have little kinks in it that I need to figure out before jumping fully in. Also can't wait for the next wave of Journeyman and Dark Frontier. I pledged way too much for Myth Journeyman but I will be getting a lot of good stuff.

I missed both kickstarters. It sucks because it is REALLY hard to find stuff for that game. I check ebay almost every day trying to pick up the monster groups or agents or heroes. Anything I can find really. It does have a few kinks, and it is a slow burn to come around, but there really isn't much like it out there. Been getting better and better as I play it more and more.
 

Peléo

Member
I'm eventually going to do a full write up, but I feel like Codex is the best game nobody is talking about. I'm continually impressed with how finely tuned it is, as well as how great it plays.

In other news, L5R is definitely high on my Gen Con list. I wonder how many copies FFG is going to bring. Definitely my first destination.

Would love to hear your opinion on it. Have been interested on the game for quite some time, even got the print and play version to try it, but still waiting to get my copy.
 
This.

A few pages back I was discussing Descent. Arkham is the only card game I happen to play. Pretty ridiculous comments. Well we have am Arkham thread now so he doesn't have to worry about it :p

I don't think Arkham really needed a new thread, although if it promotes it then that is a good thing. It really is just another board/card game.

My 0.02c is that competitive games like Destiny work better as their own thread because they are full of lingo and concepts which are indecipherable for outsiders.

I don't think I'll ever play Arkham because I hate deck building as a rule and it seems close enough, but I'm still interested to hear about it.
 

XShagrath

Member
Arkham has accounted for less than 25% of my total plays for the year so far. It's one of just 47 games I've played. Sure, it's my most played game by more than double, but it's not the only game I play or enjoy.

Do people think of games such as Oh My Goods or Seven Wonders as card games? I pretty much consider most analog games to be "board games."
 

Blizzard

Banned
Do people think of games such as Oh My Goods or Seven Wonders as card games? I pretty much consider most analog games to be "board games."
I'd say they are card games, since they lack a board. I don't think the distinction matters too much though.

I feel there is typically a community difference between the average "board game" player who plays card games and someone who is heavily into, for example, Magic: The Gathering. They're technically also playing card games, perhaps even using boards / mats, but it's a more dedicated scene that evolves on its own and may be difficult for an outsider to understand.

Obviously some people overlap into both groups.
 

XShagrath

Member
I'd say they are card games, since they lack a board. I don't think the distinction matters too much though.
I think the line for me between card and board games is when it requires a large deck building element outside of game play, such as Magic or Yu-Gi-Oh. If I went to a board game meet-up and people wanted to play M:TG, I'd be pretty put off. But if they wanted to play Dominion, Seven Wonders, or something similar, I wouldn't blink an eye.
 
I think the line for me between card and board games is when it requires a large deck building element outside of game play, such as Magic or Yu-Gi-Oh. If I went to a board game meet-up and people wanted to play M:TG, I'd be pretty put off. But if they wanted to play Dominion, Seven Wonders, or something similar, I wouldn't blink an eye.

I'd agree with that.

7 Wonders I see as a board game ... where the mechanism used is cards. The same would be said of Arkham Horror where the collection of cards makes up the board.
 

mclem

Member
What are some good board games that I can play with mom/dad/grandma if they aren't really into the kind of board games people here generally discuss but are more unique then the usual suspects?

On a similar note, I asked this in this thread (and a few other places) some time ago:

A question for the experts in here:

Can anyone recommend games that work for 6-10 year old kids while not being offensively dull for adults as well? I'm thinking there's a bit too much reading for Family Fluxx to work, but I'm currently toying with Dobble, Dixit and maybe No Thanks!

And I might throw in Uno. Because it's Uno.

Anything else I might have overlooked that'd fit the bill?

..and now, two years later, It looks like I'll be holidaying with my nieces again, so the question's come up again.

The end result of all that was that Dobble was a huge hit, Dixit went down pretty well although they didn't quite grasp the ideas. We never got around to Hanabi, although I bought it, so I'll probably have another go at that. There were a bunch of other suggestions I had back then that I might revisit, but I'm curious if there's any fresh suggestions for games for (now) 8-11 year old girls that are still enjoyable enough for adults?

Might possibly reconsider Family Fluxx, too; I've always liked the Fluxx line, and now they're a little older it may be more on the cards.

(One thing that I didn't really stress back then: Portability is a must, so card games or stuff that can fit in a pencil case are about the limit, although I'll be interested to hear about other ideas - because they still need Christmas presents on occasion!)

While it's large, I do have TTR in the back of my mind as well. Might be a bit tough to explain, though, I can never find a good way of phrasing when you can take a wild!
 

Karkador

Banned
"Board game" and "card game" is pretty much as vague as it gets, especially "card game". We can't even say "deck building" without it being clear whether we mean Magic or Dominion.

Personally, I prefer tabletop games or table games. I'm also up for renaming "deck building"
 
"Board game" and "card game" is pretty much as vague as it gets, especially "card game". We can't even say "deck building" without it being clear whether we mean Magic or Dominion.

Personally, I prefer tabletop games or table games. I'm also up for renaming "deck building"

Some people now use the term "deck construction" for game like Magic, Netrunner and LoTR. I am old school so I still use deck building sometimes for Magic.

The distinction between "board game" or "card game" I think is more if it's a lifestyle game like Magic and Nettrunner or even Dice/card SW Destiny. I generally don't mind the discussion of those here but I agree that "lifestyle" games are better off with their own thread since they generally have their own lingo and the discussion usually involve "meta". Arkham Horror the Card Game while is an LCG is more Patthfinder The Adventure Card Game than Netrrunner or even LoTR. There is some deck construction but it's no more than selecting card for you class.
 
I like my deck building games alongside board games. Fixed set expansions happen in both board gaming and deck building games.

I'd say the line that changes card games from standard board games is the collectible/rarity aspect paired with blind packs.

Just recently I've began playing LotR LCG (btw thanks for the input from everyone! I'm hooked!) and I really enjoy being able to pickup expansions and not have to worry about what I'm getting as apposed to CCGs and TCGs.
 
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