Fuz
Banned
This.
He was so fun in KoF 97.
And Geese. And Saisyu.
Also, get rid of that obnoxious Ash and his (ex) team.
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New King of Fighters Confirmed in Development
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This.
He was so fun in KoF 97.
And Geese. And Saisyu.
Also, get rid of that obnoxious Ash and his (ex) team.
El Sabroso
Member
please be a dream match like 98 and 2002 so the roster can include some old good fighters
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
TIZOOOOC!!!
Leafhopper
Banned
They want your money silly, not you.
Likely so. But again, I'd like to think that KOFXIII's ending pretty much gave them the ultimate handwave so that such things like the Orochi crew being back alive and even Rock Howard being his "MOTW" age are all feasible possibilities now.
I mean, the last time we saw Rock in KOF (01/02), he was still a little kid. To think, if KOFs were still going by years... :lol
Yes pls.
Loved using this guy in 2003 and XI.
Exr
Member
Blue Mary and Duck King are cool, but fuck Goenitz.
Bardiche
Member
So it looks like they'll be going with 3D models rather than 2D sprites, I'm just glad to be seeing a new King of Fighters in development.
Since there are dream matches between arcs, I'm hoping to see the return of Mature and Vice in this one maybe we might see Yashiro, Shermie and Chris.
Chizuru, Yamazaki, and Heidern definitely need to make a return though.
Since there are dream matches between arcs, I'm hoping to see the return of Mature and Vice in this one maybe we might see Yashiro, Shermie and Chris.
Chizuru, Yamazaki, and Heidern definitely need to make a return though.
This is one of those "Why not both?" moments.
The kind that preclude the already semi-creepy gif.
Also: Hinako, Hinako, Hinako.
machemachete
Banned
It looks like its going to take some time but im ok with that if the game its fun and balanced enough to have long legs like KOF XIII
I just hope they use 2.5D and port it faster to consoles.
Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPVq4FESV5s
Looks like 2D but its actually 3D (i heard that SNK helped in the development, but i could be wrong)
I just hope they use 2.5D and port it faster to consoles.
Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPVq4FESV5s
Looks like 2D but its actually 3D (i heard that SNK helped in the development, but i could be wrong)
I'm pretty sure that's just good old 2D Real Bout Fatal Fury. That looks like a lot of fun
The shading on KOF sprites is so much more detailed than Guilty Gear sprites, I don't know if they'd work as well in a transition to the Xrd style.
KOF has never looked very "anime" imo, though XIII's style does come the closest kind of.
Ultimadrago
Member
Nice
Eh... What do you mean anime-esque.
Animu's are just animations of some Japanese dudes art style, so technically speaking... most japanese made games are anime-esque.
You mean cell shaded? Then sure I guess.
Tizoc
Member
Tizoc
Member
So many good MOTW characters that'll never make it in
I will refuse Grant's inclusion in KoF if it means he gets cancelable normals.
To Far Away Times
Member
Hold on. Getting my body ready.
I always liked how Tizoc isn't afraid to let me know that he "sleeps with two whores" throughout a match.
They might as well. The possibilities of a MOTW2 must be infinitesimally low at this point. The least they could do is just continue the story through KOF, albeit in a universe where Geese is still alive, and Ryo and crew are still at their AOF ages.
Frankly, I'd rather have older Ryo from FFWA, Robert as an older guy worked out fine in NGBC, and an older Yuri wouldn't be as annoying, I hope.
Takuma has already established quite eloquently, especially as Mr Karate, how fearsome he really is, if an age-up would be too problematic to keep him around - which it's not, in a setting shared with Chin, Tung, Jubei and Lee Pai Long.
Trolling the fanbase for fun, profit and a grand finale!
They already "rotoscope" their sprites using fully animated 3D models, right? I can imagine the jump to Xrd-style 2.5D wouldn't be too difficult if they developed a decent workflow for the new 3D art.
zero shift
Banned
Please be 2D, please be 2D, please be 2D, please be 2D.
Like a few others, I thought this was confirmed last year? I also remember hearing that it was going to be 3D instead of 2D back then as well. I was absolutely livid that they were transitioning a mainline King of Fighters from 2D to 3D.
SNK should stick with what they're good at, dot art. I can understand though that it's not a viable option as they're hurting for money (once again).
SNK should stick with what they're good at, dot art. I can understand though that it's not a viable option as they're hurting for money (once again).
I'd rather they go 3D, so long as the gameplay is in tact, than wait 3-4 years between sequels and updates. Graphics are something I'll admire for 5 minutes. Gameplay will keep me around for years. I'll happily sacrfice sprites for polygons if it means more characters, more updates, and more timely sequels.
PfantzyPantz
Member
People keep talking about Xrd but I think Xuan Dou Zhi Wang did 2.5D really well too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YARqFfmdhSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YARqFfmdhSQ
Angelcurio
Member
As much as i love 2D sprite based KOF, i really think that going 3D with 2D gameplay like GG Xrd or SFIV would be better in the long term for them, since it would be easier to work with using both 3D character models and being able to license (or make) a new 3D engine.
Think Xrd has convinced me than 3D can easily rivel if not be better than 2D.
They can use the same techniques ASW used to make GGXrd look 2D while still using something similar to KoF's shading. ie, what make Xrd look like a 2D game isn't just the cell shading, there's long list of things that has nothing to do with cell shading(like tempering with perspective, hand placed lighting sources on character to make sure the anime like shadowing is perfect and keyframe animation with no continues movement between keyframes, to name some).The shading on KOF sprites is so much more detailed than Guilty Gear sprites, I don't know if they'd work as well in a transition to the Xrd style.
KOF has never looked very "anime" imo, though XIII's style does come the closest kind of.
Watching Xuan Dou Zhi Wang in HD shows how bad their animation is, it's basically the same way vanillaware does animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Rtj-D_d_w
Great art, poor animation.
More and more gets confirmed every few days on this, huh? I'm probably less psyched about a new KoF itself now (Just because its so obviously coming) than I am about the fact SNKP is just... MOVING with something so constantly. Which is saying a lot, because KoF XIII was probably the most Hype I got over any game last gen.
As much as people keep desiring Xrd's style... I'm not entirely sold on the idea, really. At this point. does dumping the characters made for XII and XIII to make 3D models with intense 2D trickery really equal "less" work than adding 10 characters onto XIII's cast + new animations? Or does all the model work from XIII's "rotoscope" method mean they technically have the entire cast of the game + their animations in 3D already, just awaiting some Xuan Dou Zhi Wang-style frame creation?
I guess I just really wanna see this thing in motion, already. If going the Xrd style method can bring us things like unique rival & friend intros, loads of victory poses, constant roster updates, use of an even wider variety of Neo Geo characters, and more dynamic additional content into the game, I'd be all for it. Hopefully, we just have a bit longer to wait... *TwitchTwith*
As much as people keep desiring Xrd's style... I'm not entirely sold on the idea, really. At this point. does dumping the characters made for XII and XIII to make 3D models with intense 2D trickery really equal "less" work than adding 10 characters onto XIII's cast + new animations? Or does all the model work from XIII's "rotoscope" method mean they technically have the entire cast of the game + their animations in 3D already, just awaiting some Xuan Dou Zhi Wang-style frame creation?
I guess I just really wanna see this thing in motion, already. If going the Xrd style method can bring us things like unique rival & friend intros, loads of victory poses, constant roster updates, use of an even wider variety of Neo Geo characters, and more dynamic additional content into the game, I'd be all for it. Hopefully, we just have a bit longer to wait... *TwitchTwith*
Teknopathetic
Member
"Watching Xuan Dou Zhi Wang in HD shows how bad their animation is, it's basically the same way vanillaware does animation:"
It's not the same way Vanillware does animation at all, they are completely different. Xuan Dou Zhi Wang is pre-rendering 3d model animations for their sprites, Vanillaware characters are a bunch of separate hand drawn 2d elements on top of each other that are rotated, transformed, stretched, swapped, etc. Almost like a paper doll.
Saying they're the same would also be saying that ArcSys is doing animation the same way as Vanillaware. They don't even look similar.
It's not the same way Vanillware does animation at all, they are completely different. Xuan Dou Zhi Wang is pre-rendering 3d model animations for their sprites, Vanillaware characters are a bunch of separate hand drawn 2d elements on top of each other that are rotated, transformed, stretched, swapped, etc. Almost like a paper doll.
Saying they're the same would also be saying that ArcSys is doing animation the same way as Vanillaware. They don't even look similar.
Was just referring to the overall 2.5D look, SNK can do its magic when it comes to animation.
I see what he's getting at, though. There are these... slightly unnatural looking movements in some of the animation. Not all of the animation, mind. But my brain doesn't like it.