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New Orleans Starts Tearing Down Confederate Monuments, Sparking Protest

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People were having virgils over the statues??? wtf

glad the statues are going anyways

New Orleans officials removed the first of four prominent Confederate monuments early Monday, the latest Southern institution to sever itself from symbols viewed by many as a representation racism and white supremacy.

The first memorial to come down was the Liberty Monument, an 1891 obelisk honoring the Crescent City White League.

Workers arrived to begin removing the statue, which commemorates whites who tried to topple a biracial post-Civil War government in New Orleans, around 1:25 a.m. in an attempt to avoid disruption from supporters who want the monuments to stay, some of whom city officials said have made death threats.

The workers inspecting the statue ahead of its removal could be seen wearing flak jackets and helmets. Police officers watched the area from atop the parking garage of a nearby hotel. Meanwhile, a handful of people opposed to the move held a vigil at the statue of Jefferson Davis, who was the president of the Confederacy during the Civil War.


New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu has called the Liberty Monument "the most offensive of the four" to be taken down, adding it was erected to "revere white supremacy."

"If there was ever a statue that needed to be taken down, it's that one," he said in an interview Sunday with The Associated Press.

The Crescent City White League attempted to overthrow a biracial Reconstruction government in New Orleans after the Civil War. That attempt failed, but white supremacist Democrats later took control of the state.

An inscription added in 1932 said the Yankees withdrew federal troops and "recognized white supremacy in the South" after the group challenged Louisiana's biracial government after the Civil War. In 1993, these words were covered by a granite slab with a new inscription, saying the obelisk honors "Americans on both sides" who died and that the conflict "should teach us lessons for the future."


Three other statues to Confederate Generals Robert E. Lee and P.G.T. Beauregard and Confederate States of America President Jefferson Davis will be removed in later days now that legal challenges have been overcome.

The removals are "about showing the whole world that we as a city and as a people are able to acknowledge, understand, reconcile — and most importantly — choose a better future," Landrieu said in a statement released by his office. "We can remember these divisive chapters in our history in a museum or other facility where they can be put in context — and that's where these statues belong."

Nationally, the debate over Confederate symbols has become heated since nine parishioners were killed at a black church in South Carolina in June 2015. South Carolina removed the Confederate flag from its statehouse grounds in the weeks after, and several Southern cities have since considered removing monuments. The University of Mississippi took down its state flag because it includes the Confederate emblem.

New Orleans is a majority African-American city although the number of black residents has fallen since 2005's Hurricane Katrina drove many people from the city.


The majority black City Council in 2015 voted 6-1 to approve plans to take the statues down, but legal battles over their fate have prevented the removal until now, said Landrieu, who proposed the monuments' removal and rode to victory twice with overwhelming support from the city's black residents.

People who want the Confederate memorials removed say they are offensive artifacts honoring the region's slave-owning past. But others call the monuments part of the city's history and say they should be protected historic structures.

Robert Bonner, 63, who said he is a Civil War re-enactor, was there to protest the statue's removal.

"I think it's a terrible thing," he said. "When you start removing the history of the city, you start losing money. You start losing where you came from and where you've been."

Since officials announced the removals, contractors hired by the city have faced death threats and intimidation in this deep South city where passions about the Civil War still run deep.

Landrieu refused to say who the city would be using to remove the statues because of the intimidation attempts. And the removal will begin at night to ensure police can secure the sites to protect workers, and to ease the burden on traffic for people who live and work in the city, Landrieu said.

"All of what we will do in the next days will be designed to make sure that we protect everybody, that the workers are safe, the folks around the monuments are safe and that nobody gets hurt," Landrieu said.

Landrieu said the memorials don't represent his city as it approaches its 300th anniversary next year. The mayor said the city would remove the monuments, store them and preserve them until an "appropriate" place to display them is determined.

"The monuments are an aberration," he said. "They're actually a denial of our history and they were done in a time when people who still controlled the Confederacy were in charge of this city and it only represents a four-year period in our 1,000-year march to where we are today.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-sparking-vigils-n750036?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
 

jph139

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I mean, just move the statues to a museum. They're works of art and part of history, so just present them somewhere with context.

Fuck that obelisk though, no regrets on tearing that down.
 
I mean, just move the statues to a museum. They're works of art and part of history, so just present them somewhere with context.

Fuck that obelisk though, no regrets on tearing that down.

Yeah a museum is probably the best place for this. Make it a learning experience.
 
Removing a memorial to an insurrection started by the proto-KKK White League to undermine Reconstruction and disenfranchise newly freed blacks should be (SHOULD BE) the most uncontroversial move ever. But there's some stupid contingent here in NO that is obsessed with "tradition" and "I don't get angry looking at a statue." Criminy. More and more I'm starting to realize how true it is that there are some people out there that are just diametrically opposed to any change whatsoever. A good 80% of the people I asked about it who responded that way could not tell me anything about this monument, who made it, when it was made, why it was made, they could not have given less of a shit about it until someone decided to take it away.

The one thing I will say though is that it would have maybe been more palatable if they had come to the table with a replacement in mind, or had stressed that the monument would be placed into some museum or something for posterity's sake.
 

Randam

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I mean, just move the statues to a museum. They're works of art and part of history, so just present them somewhere with context.

Fuck that obelisk though, no regrets on tearing that down.
They don't move them to a museum?
Do they destroy them?
 

Mahonay

Banned
Should probably be moved to an archive or museum instead of destroyed, but I 100 percent agree with them being removed.
 

TheMan

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I mean, just move the statues to a museum. They're works of art and part of history, so just present them somewhere with context.

Fuck that obelisk though, no regrets on tearing that down.

I agree with this. But if moving is not feasible, Im not gonna lose sleep over tearing down a confederate monument.
 

Lkr

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They should leave statues but hang a sign around the neck of each one that says 'loser.'

That way everyone learns about history.
This is the best idea. Everyone who spouts "but muh hurritage" and "but muh history" should have to be reminded that their ancestors were traitors to the nation and they fucking lost.
 

WedgeX

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Good for NOLA.

I mean, just move the statues to a museum. They're works of art and part of history, so just present them somewhere with context.

Fuck that obelisk though, no regrets on tearing that down.

That's exactly what the city intends.
 
Landrieu said the memorials don't represent his city as it approaches its 300th anniversary next year. The mayor said the city would remove the monuments, store them and preserve them until an "appropriate" place to display them is determined.

hey read the article please they aren't tearing anything down, they're removing them because the people who live there shouldn't have to be reminded of white supremacists who lost and died decades ago.
 
They are going to museums:

Landrieu said in a statement released by his office, "We can remember these divisive chapters in our history in a museum or other facility where they can be put in context — and that's where these statues belong."
 

joe2187

Banned
I didn't realize some of these memorials were so OVERTLY racist and about white supremacy, holy shit.

The inscription on the first monument is literally about white supremecy
McEnery and Penny having been elected governor and lieutenant-governor by the white people, were duly installed by this overthrow of carpetbag government, ousting the usurpers, Governor Kellogg (white) and Lieutenant-Governor Antoine (colored).

United States troops took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election of November 1876 recognized white supremacy in the South and gave us our state."
 

jph139

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That's exactly what the city intends.

Yeah, I've seen a lot of that intention before though. Around here they usually end up rotting in storage somewhere until everyone forgets about them.

But maybe that's just because no one needs a 30th John Adams monument in their collection...
 

Mahonay

Banned
It's kind of ridiculous that it's taken this long for the south to start removing state sponsored celebrations of the Confederacy.
 
Literally just went on a work trip to New Orleans last week -- first time ever there -- and saw that Jefferson Davis statue. I kinda figured in the back of my head that it was Confederate related but didn't actually get close enough to read the inscription. Crazy seeing something like that for the first time in my life and then hearing about this a week later.
 

Tall4Life

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The inscription on the first monument is literally about white supremecy

Um yeah that's what I was talking about, usually these Confederate statues are just memorializing the Confederate generals and all, but that one is so insanely terrible
 

Kyonashi

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What is the K in America supposed to represent here? I've only ever seen it used as the triple K to protest far-right-wing shit, this seems pointless.

Also, there's a long ass list of things worse than Marxism to happen to the USA and most of them already happened.
 

tbm24

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Vigils for confederate leaders is not surprising. Those people wish they got their way and us on whites were kept out. What else are they suppose to do but mourn what could have been?
 
Never understood why we even have so many civil war statues here considering we quickly surrendered and barely played a role. Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee had nothing to do with New Orleans. At least Beauregard was from here but fuck him too.
 

Pizza

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I feel like a confederate museum is a tasteful way to place all of these relics in a place where no one has to see them regularly.

To be honest, I live in Texas and I've never seen a reasonable, level-headed person brandishing confederate gear. "My heritage!"
 
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