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new Pokemon Diamond/Pearl scans
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TheGreatDave
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kpop100 said:
At least they seem to be putting some effort in to Pokemon Wii I guess. It's a bit disappointing they do this with all the real games, but I don't think it affects the game too much.
TheGreatDave
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Zilch said:
It's probably more Iwata screaming "GET THIS DONE FOR SEPTEMEMBER!", staring at Sony's HQ, laughing.
It seems like Game Freak is more concerned with tightening up gameplay mechanics and introducing new gameplay features rather than pushing the DS's graphics capabilities to FFIII-levels.
*shrug* It would be nice to have 3D battles and fully animated pokemon, but I'm not going to complain that we're not getting that.
*shrug* It would be nice to have 3D battles and fully animated pokemon, but I'm not going to complain that we're not getting that.
It doesn't look shitty, though. They're cartoony 2D graphics, certainly, but that style is deliberate and hardly shitty in the first place. The game looks fine. Not everything needs to be 3D -- especially on the DS, where most 3D genuinely DOES look like shit.
There's nothing ****ing wrong with 2D.
There's nothing ****ing wrong with 2D.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I actually, uh, really like those boxarts
Netrunner2k2
Member
Game Freak probably has more important things to do with this game than mess around with a new engine. I am sure balancing issues is a huge headache with a Pokemon, not to mention making sure WiFi is working correctly, move capabilities are correct, moves aren't overpowering, and making sure the gameplay has evolved in some aspects. Play testing must be a real pain in the Pokebutt.
We would probably be looking at a MUCH later release date if they had to work with a 3-D battle engine. Can you imagine animating the 200+ Pokemon, plus tons of moves, PLUS making it look not ugly on the DS?
Zilch said:
We would probably be looking at a MUCH later release date if they had to work with a 3-D battle engine. Can you imagine animating the 200+ Pokemon, plus tons of moves, PLUS making it look not ugly on the DS?
Zilch said:
Minor 3D, at most. It's still 2D gameplay, and it's mostly the sort of 3D graphical enhancement that mostly just helps spruce up an overall 2D appearance more. I mean, there were some elements of Dawn of Sorrow's backgrounds that were 3D, too, but it was still a 2D game in terms of visuals and gameplay.
More info from Serebii.net:
-Cherimu is a Grass Type Pokémon. Classification of Sakura Pokémon. It has a brand new ability called Flower Head which powers itself and any teammates up when Sunny Day is in effect. It has an attack called Trouble Seed. This attack changes the foe's ability to Insomnia temporarily.
-Pachirisu is an Electric Type Pokémon. Classification of Electric Squirrel Pokémon. It has either Run Away or Pick Up for it's abilities. It knows Thunderbolt/
-Dorapion is a Poison/Dark Type Pokémon. Classification of Changeable Scorpion Pokémon. It has either Battle Armor or a new ability called Snipe which increases the base value of an attack during critical hit. It knows Poison Fang. It has an attack called Cross Poison. This attack has a high chance of Critical Hitting and Poisoning.
-Tamanta is a Water/Flying Type Pokémon. It's Abilities are Swift Swim and Water Absorb.
-Perappu is now a Normal/Flying Type Pokémon. It's abilities are Keen Eye & a new Ability called Unstable Gait which allows for evasion to increase when confused.
-Lucario's second ability is called Humble Heart which increases Lucario's speed when flinched. Lucario has a new attack called Wave Guiding Bomb. It's a Fighting Type Attack. Lucario also knows Detect & Quick Attack.
-Munchlax has an attack called Nature Spurt which used the berry Munchlax may be holding to change the strength and type of an attack.
-Weavile has an attack called Freeze. This attack disables the hold item that the opponent has.
-Buizeru has an attack called Aqua Jet. This attack always hits first.
-Evil Team is Team Galaxy who are stealing Pokémon everywhere and trief to befriend the professor.
-Seperate rival other than the other gender. He is your childhood rival and although he is sometimes rash, he helps you along the way.
-Bottom of Pokémon Center is for WiFi features which utilise Friend Codes.
-Bottom Screen during battles confirmed for Menus.
-In Battle, the bag is organised as thus: HP/PP Recovery, Pokéballs, Status Recovery, Battle Use .
Only thing here that kind of gets me dissapointed is that Perappu is Normal/Flying. I was hoping we were going to get a pure Flying, like it had originally been thought.
-Cherimu is a Grass Type Pokémon. Classification of Sakura Pokémon. It has a brand new ability called Flower Head which powers itself and any teammates up when Sunny Day is in effect. It has an attack called Trouble Seed. This attack changes the foe's ability to Insomnia temporarily.
-Pachirisu is an Electric Type Pokémon. Classification of Electric Squirrel Pokémon. It has either Run Away or Pick Up for it's abilities. It knows Thunderbolt/
-Dorapion is a Poison/Dark Type Pokémon. Classification of Changeable Scorpion Pokémon. It has either Battle Armor or a new ability called Snipe which increases the base value of an attack during critical hit. It knows Poison Fang. It has an attack called Cross Poison. This attack has a high chance of Critical Hitting and Poisoning.
-Tamanta is a Water/Flying Type Pokémon. It's Abilities are Swift Swim and Water Absorb.
-Perappu is now a Normal/Flying Type Pokémon. It's abilities are Keen Eye & a new Ability called Unstable Gait which allows for evasion to increase when confused.
-Lucario's second ability is called Humble Heart which increases Lucario's speed when flinched. Lucario has a new attack called Wave Guiding Bomb. It's a Fighting Type Attack. Lucario also knows Detect & Quick Attack.
-Munchlax has an attack called Nature Spurt which used the berry Munchlax may be holding to change the strength and type of an attack.
-Weavile has an attack called Freeze. This attack disables the hold item that the opponent has.
-Buizeru has an attack called Aqua Jet. This attack always hits first.
-Evil Team is Team Galaxy who are stealing Pokémon everywhere and trief to befriend the professor.
-Seperate rival other than the other gender. He is your childhood rival and although he is sometimes rash, he helps you along the way.
-Bottom of Pokémon Center is for WiFi features which utilise Friend Codes.
-Bottom Screen during battles confirmed for Menus.
-In Battle, the bag is organised as thus: HP/PP Recovery, Pokéballs, Status Recovery, Battle Use .
Only thing here that kind of gets me dissapointed is that Perappu is Normal/Flying. I was hoping we were going to get a pure Flying, like it had originally been thought.
..pakbeka..
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I'll probably wait for the 3rd onecvxfreak said:Those legendaries look so weird... and I bet there's a third one lurking around the corner.
I like Sneasel's evolution.
I ordered Emerald i skipped it since i had Ruby,Saphire,LeafGreen and FireRed, but i need to have the full collection so i picked it up.
I love these type of RPG games. This will be mine at launch (US launch).
Interest so we'll have Space and Time type of Pokemons now?
I ordered Emerald i skipped it since i had Ruby,Saphire,LeafGreen and FireRed, but i need to have the full collection so i picked it up.
I love these type of RPG games. This will be mine at launch (US launch).
Interest so we'll have Space and Time type of Pokemons now?
Thoughts on... everything.
Pros:
+1: The girl's pose is cool.
+1: Two rivals sounds good. I just hope they both recur more often than Brendan/May and Wally.
+1: I have no idea what one would need a touch screen calculator for, but I'm happy to see it. Maybe to select the number of items being withdrawn or deposited into a PC, or something like that.
+2: The Diamond legendary looks like a futuristic combination of the three legendary beasts, and the Pearl legendary looks like a futuristic Groudon. In spite of that, I like them both. I do wish, however, that they'd finally taken the opportunity to introduce a Light type (the only one I want added), because if any two Pokemon ever looked like candidates for Dark and Light counterparts, it's these two.
+2: The menus, in general look better, cleaner, and less cluttered. This is largely just due to having more space to work with.
+7: This is probably the first time I've liked the majority of the new Pokemon designs that have been revealed. I didn't like the new G/S/C ones that we saw before the release of the games, and liked the R/S/E ones even less, but I like the music note bird, I like Lucario, I like Weavile and the water weasel.
+8: With the others, I may not like their designs, but their abilities or attacks are great. People have been begging for a Poison/Dark type a long time because of the defensive synergy going on there (Poison is weak to Psychic but Dark is immune, Dark is weak to Bug and Fighting but Poison is resistant, leaving only Ground as a weakness), and we finally have a Pick Up Pokemon who's not a Normal type or Phanpy. Special mention to that "Cross Poison" move also, since Poison in general has needed better attacks.
+30: Cherimu (the Sakura flower Pokemon) gets its own section of my comments because from the info on Serebii.net, it looks like we've got a move that's almost definitely going to catapult itself into a top-tier slot: Trouble Seed, changing the enemy's ability temporarily to Insomnia. Besides the obvious use of blocking currently-overused stuff like Suicune and Snorlax from being able to Rest (a move that's needed more counter-balancing since day one of R/B/Y), you could get rid of, say, Volt Absorb on Lanturn (goes from absorbing Electric to taking normal damage from it) or you could get rid of Levitate on Weezing and make it go from immunity to a 2x weakness, or so on. This is fantastic. Cherimu looks like a weak Pokemon, though (maybe a Jumpluff sort), but I'm assuming that other Pokemon will have this same move.
+30: Wi-Fi will make a lot of people happy.
Cons:
-3: I'm a little disappointed with the touch screen controls on the bottom. I mean, I'm glad they moved it to the bottom, but there are two things I think they could've done much better: 1) made it prettier, because, man, is that orange-ish interface for the bag ever hideous (that's just the bag menu, I don't know about the others), and 2) why didn't they move the "[Pokemon] used [attack]!" announcement down to the bottom screen as well? We could have had more room for sprites and attack animations in the top. (I turn off animations after a while, but still, they're interesting for at least a bit.)
-2: Team Galaxy. Let me start by saying that I have no problem with always fighting an evil team. That's the classic formula; changing that would be like not fighting evil robots in Mega Man, or not fighting Dracula in Castlevania, or not fighting Bowser in Mario, or so on. I want to fight an evil team of Pokemon gangsters. It's just that the theme of this particular team seems unappealing to me. Partially because it just seems like a renamed Team Rocket, partially because it's only recently that we learned about Super Mario Galaxy, partially because now I don't get to see the evil females' legs.
Potentially -1: I like Cherimu's new move, as I said above, but the ability, depending on how it works, seems to be further tilting the metagame in favor of Sunny Day and Groudon as opposed to the already-shafted Rain Dance and Kyogre. To power up not only itself, but also all of its teammates when Sunny Day is in effect? Yeesh, I know Grass-types needed to be improved, but not necessarily to this degree. ...Again, though, it depends on exactly what "powering up" the whole team entails. If it's something small, it might not be broken.
Pros:
+1: The girl's pose is cool.
+1: Two rivals sounds good. I just hope they both recur more often than Brendan/May and Wally.
+1: I have no idea what one would need a touch screen calculator for, but I'm happy to see it. Maybe to select the number of items being withdrawn or deposited into a PC, or something like that.
+2: The Diamond legendary looks like a futuristic combination of the three legendary beasts, and the Pearl legendary looks like a futuristic Groudon. In spite of that, I like them both. I do wish, however, that they'd finally taken the opportunity to introduce a Light type (the only one I want added), because if any two Pokemon ever looked like candidates for Dark and Light counterparts, it's these two.
+2: The menus, in general look better, cleaner, and less cluttered. This is largely just due to having more space to work with.
+7: This is probably the first time I've liked the majority of the new Pokemon designs that have been revealed. I didn't like the new G/S/C ones that we saw before the release of the games, and liked the R/S/E ones even less, but I like the music note bird, I like Lucario, I like Weavile and the water weasel.
+8: With the others, I may not like their designs, but their abilities or attacks are great. People have been begging for a Poison/Dark type a long time because of the defensive synergy going on there (Poison is weak to Psychic but Dark is immune, Dark is weak to Bug and Fighting but Poison is resistant, leaving only Ground as a weakness), and we finally have a Pick Up Pokemon who's not a Normal type or Phanpy. Special mention to that "Cross Poison" move also, since Poison in general has needed better attacks.
+30: Cherimu (the Sakura flower Pokemon) gets its own section of my comments because from the info on Serebii.net, it looks like we've got a move that's almost definitely going to catapult itself into a top-tier slot: Trouble Seed, changing the enemy's ability temporarily to Insomnia. Besides the obvious use of blocking currently-overused stuff like Suicune and Snorlax from being able to Rest (a move that's needed more counter-balancing since day one of R/B/Y), you could get rid of, say, Volt Absorb on Lanturn (goes from absorbing Electric to taking normal damage from it) or you could get rid of Levitate on Weezing and make it go from immunity to a 2x weakness, or so on. This is fantastic. Cherimu looks like a weak Pokemon, though (maybe a Jumpluff sort), but I'm assuming that other Pokemon will have this same move.
+30: Wi-Fi will make a lot of people happy.
Cons:
-3: I'm a little disappointed with the touch screen controls on the bottom. I mean, I'm glad they moved it to the bottom, but there are two things I think they could've done much better: 1) made it prettier, because, man, is that orange-ish interface for the bag ever hideous (that's just the bag menu, I don't know about the others), and 2) why didn't they move the "[Pokemon] used [attack]!" announcement down to the bottom screen as well? We could have had more room for sprites and attack animations in the top. (I turn off animations after a while, but still, they're interesting for at least a bit.)
-2: Team Galaxy. Let me start by saying that I have no problem with always fighting an evil team. That's the classic formula; changing that would be like not fighting evil robots in Mega Man, or not fighting Dracula in Castlevania, or not fighting Bowser in Mario, or so on. I want to fight an evil team of Pokemon gangsters. It's just that the theme of this particular team seems unappealing to me. Partially because it just seems like a renamed Team Rocket, partially because it's only recently that we learned about Super Mario Galaxy, partially because now I don't get to see the evil females' legs.
Potentially -1: I like Cherimu's new move, as I said above, but the ability, depending on how it works, seems to be further tilting the metagame in favor of Sunny Day and Groudon as opposed to the already-shafted Rain Dance and Kyogre. To power up not only itself, but also all of its teammates when Sunny Day is in effect? Yeesh, I know Grass-types needed to be improved, but not necessarily to this degree. ...Again, though, it depends on exactly what "powering up" the whole team entails. If it's something small, it might not be broken.
That's my favourite too, especially after the 5th movie. Seeing the Deoxy one after that was disappointing.cvxfreak said:I thought it was neat... my favorite is always the Jirachi movie.
But then the one with Lucario was good.... but it does not give me much hope for Pokemon Ranger.
I like Cherimu a lot, partically cause I love Grass types, and mostly cause it seems pretty kick-ass so far. And it's evolutions should be even cooler. I wonder if it'll end up looking like an actual Sakura tree? Grass types need more good Pokémon since the starters are the only ones that end up being useful.
jj984jj said:That's my favourite too, especially after the 5th movie. Seeing the Deoxy one after that was disappointing.
But then the one with Lucario was good.... but it does not give me much hope for Pokemon Ranger.
As far as i recall Pokemon Ranger and the Mystery Dungeons are quite good spin-offs.
Isn't Ranger developed by Hal ?
Judging by those Scans i really hope Celebi is catchable this time in the US version, it's the only Pokemon you can't catch in a "legal" way.
mechesontrance
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Very cool, thanks for the scans!!!
A Link to the Past
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No.1 said:
Shhh.
D/P is the biggest graphical leap of any Pokémon game.
Epicus.Furor
Member
The Pearl Pokemon looks Better.
Zilch said:
Pokemon Ranger , Pokemon Snap,Pokemon Puzzle League, Pokemon Trozei,Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2,Pokemon Mystery Dungeon,Pokemon Pinball,Pokemon Colloseum and Gale of Darkness are far from bad games, they're good for what they are Spin-offs.
I agree the main series should stay with Gamefreak, but they also have talent to do other stuff see Drill Dozer , i hope they start doing new stuff as well or they make a sequel to Drill Dozer aside from the Pokemon main series.
The only real shitty Pokemon games are the ones made by Ambrella, i still don't know why that company is alive , even though i slightly liked Hey you pikachu (mostly because of novelty) i utterfly dislike Pokemon Dash and Pokemon Channel god those games are awful.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Captain N said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and figure they feature different legendaries and species of pokemon exclusive to their respective versions.
:/