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New Pokkén Tournament gameplay trailer
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KiefbladeMaster
Member
I was hoping the combat would be more like, you know, Tekken. This looks like the DBZ and Ultimate Storm games -- which aren't very skill based.
anotherVegan
Member
I really enjoyed the Dragonball Z Tenkaichi games, so this looks pretty fun. If we got large destructible arenas, that would be neat.
Anyway, I'm hyped for a playable Arcanine.
Anyway, I'm hyped for a playable Arcanine.
Are people really surprised Pikachu got in? How?
Anyway, I was initially surprised to see Gardevoir (especially over Gallade though he still has a chance I guess) but then I remember how popular the pokemon is and its resurgence with its Mega form and the Fairy type. Suicune took me by surprise as well but it was definitely the most relevant of that cycle of legends with the Crystal connection and what not.
The trainer avatar is kind of lame and I hope there is either customization in that regard or some prominent trainers from the Pokemon series show up. Like Eusine could be Suicine's trainer, Diantha with Gardervoir, Bruno with Machamp, Korrina with Lucario, etc.
What does this mean? Having more "complex" systems didn't stop games like Marvel 2 & 3, Street Fighter 3, etc. from having balance issues. There's no real correlation between system complexity and balance - its all up to the developers.
I mean when this game was first announced, I expected and kind of wanted a roster of only Fighting types. Once Harada confirmed that wouldn't be the case months ago the gates were opened up for Pokemon like Suicune. Honestly it makes sense as it way better represents the Pokemon franchise and opens up roster diversity. Some of the more offbeat characters in other fighting games are amongst the best and there is no reason this game has to be strictly beholden to the roster tradition of other series.
Anyway, I was initially surprised to see Gardevoir (especially over Gallade though he still has a chance I guess) but then I remember how popular the pokemon is and its resurgence with its Mega form and the Fairy type. Suicune took me by surprise as well but it was definitely the most relevant of that cycle of legends with the Crystal connection and what not.
The trainer avatar is kind of lame and I hope there is either customization in that regard or some prominent trainers from the Pokemon series show up. Like Eusine could be Suicine's trainer, Diantha with Gardervoir, Bruno with Machamp, Korrina with Lucario, etc.
What does this mean? Having more "complex" systems didn't stop games like Marvel 2 & 3, Street Fighter 3, etc. from having balance issues. There's no real correlation between system complexity and balance - its all up to the developers.
I mean when this game was first announced, I expected and kind of wanted a roster of only Fighting types. Once Harada confirmed that wouldn't be the case months ago the gates were opened up for Pokemon like Suicune. Honestly it makes sense as it way better represents the Pokemon franchise and opens up roster diversity. Some of the more offbeat characters in other fighting games are amongst the best and there is no reason this game has to be strictly beholden to the roster tradition of other series.
Well, he was captured by Mishima so you can see why easily.
Now I want a story mode with the Mishima trying to take over the world with pokemon
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Harada outright said that this will be nothing like Tekken right from the get-go.
Dark Ninja
Member
Really im glad that this isn't Tekken, although some of the side 2d gameplay can still be. The transition from 3D to 2D is really terrible though
LSauchelli
Member
I want Galvantula, but the problem there is its size, isn't it minuscule? I guess they could make a 'giant' one that's about Pikachu's size.
Not75Drops
Member
These aren't particularly who I want to be in but if they keep the initial roster below 30 which is likely, as well as balance the roster choices from all generations, I could see it going something like this. Especially since quadrapeds like Suicune are in.
Gen I
Pikachu
Machamp
Charizard
Mewtwo
Gen 2
Suicune
Sudowoodo
Scizor
Hitmontop
Gen 3
Gardevoir
Blaziken
Hariyama
Absol
Gen 4
Lucario
Infernape
Garchomp
Froslass
Gen 5
Emboar
Zoroark
Golurk
Meloetta
Gen 6
Greninja
Hawlucha
Pangoro
Aegislash
Gen I
Pikachu
Machamp
Charizard
Mewtwo
Gen 2
Suicune
Sudowoodo
Scizor
Hitmontop
Gen 3
Gardevoir
Blaziken
Hariyama
Absol
Gen 4
Lucario
Infernape
Garchomp
Froslass
Gen 5
Emboar
Zoroark
Golurk
Meloetta
Gen 6
Greninja
Hawlucha
Pangoro
Aegislash
A lot of Pokémon aren't extremely slow like Machamp. This is the direction the game needed to capture everyone's imagination.
I actually didn't know that. That eases my slight disappointment a bit, because this game still looks good. It would be kinda cumbersome to have this shit going on in a 2D plane like Suicune's ribbons and pikachu's thunderbolts all over the place lol.
Spinosaurus
Member
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It seems to be 2'07", so not too small I guess. Joltik is really tiny though I think.
Oni Link 666
Member
OK. I still just wanted Pokemon Tekken, though.
The close quarters combat looks OK, but it still could be random button mashing.
Not everyone in Tekken is slow either.
I won't be satisfied until we get every single pokemon. I'll boycott the game until I see it.
They have the aspiration of turning this game into a series of its own. With 700+ PKMN to pick from, that's certainly more than enough to keep things going for future games and expansions!
PadWarrior
Member
Love this roster.
Generic Power Ranger
Member
So it's a mashup of tekken and naruto ? I think that's pretty interesting. A shame the combat system doesn't use the limb system of tekken though. The projectile/shield could be assigned other buttons.
cause he's a strong, independent pokemon who don't need no trainer.
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Best dog legendary in?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
But it's not dog.
Im kinda surprised that hype has gone down. This is basically the combat system fans have wanted for Pokemon since Pokemon stadium. Real time fighting with 3d arenas that reflect the type of action seen in the anime. One step closer to that full 3d, open world, Pokemon rpg with realtime combat.
entremet
Member
They're garbage looking Pokes, though.
Suicune's design has always been one of the best.
I'm guessing the below are locks:
Mewtwo--All three forms
Kanto starters--Too iconic
Sawk and Throh.
Gallade
Scizor
Save 'N Quit
Banned
My inner 10 year old still thinks so.
PreyingShark
Member
Suicune was the Pokemon I wanted the most. I am so, so, so fucking happy that it got in. HYYYYYYYPE
Aaronrules380
Member
LOL. You realize this is only really feasible because it's a fighting game with around 20 characters who will have been specifically selected because they can work in this type of environment. It would absolutely not work if they wanted to do a mainline pokemon game that needs HUNDREDS of pokemon (And really, that's assuming they'd pull a Ruby Sapphire and make most of the pokemon completely unavailable, which would upset many fans. Honestly they'd really need to do all the pokemon to satisfy people), many of which are simply not built for this type of game (For instance, pretty much any of the fish pokemon that really shouldn't be capable of operating out of water.) Anyone who wants a mainline Pokemon game that plays like an episode of the anime is fooling themselves, since the amount of work would be astronomical and not really viable. Also, you have to keep in mind that fighting game movesets are way more limited than the movesets pokemon get in the main games, which is also a huge help
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Looks like Naruto games but the animation and combos are nowhere near as good.....though I'm pretty sure that this game will actually take skill to make combos unlike Naruto -____- ( fix yo battle system CC2)
entremet
Member
It's a Pokemon! Whatever that is lol.
I've always considered them mixes between feline and canine designs. Still the best legendary trio.
Fine maybe not " open world" but I think they could make a adventure game that featured the typical encounter system that, But have the combat be real time. Its just a dream anyways since gamefreak will probably never take mainline games away from handheld (unless Nintendo's next console has crossplay) I still think its doable. Maybe it would have to be a more focused spin off sort of game like Pokemon collesium. Who knoes maybe pokken on Wii u will have a some kind of "adventure" mode?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I'm interested after seeing the full gameplay. We've become saturated in typical fighting game designs, be it SF, Tekken, or Guilty Gear-derived. The problem with the Naruto games is they are too simple to insure they're absolutely accessible. This looks like a similar paradigm but more technical and the potential for unique character move sets with the Pokemon powers is great.
MagnetoWned
Member
Was hoping this would be a Street Fighter style fighting game not a DBZ style game
Lord_Byron28
Member
Here's I think a good roster of pokemon:
Gen 1:
Pikachu
Machamp
Charizard
Mewtwo
Gen 2:
Hitmontop
Sudowoodo
Tyranitar
Suicune
Gen 3:
Blaziken
Mawile
Gardevoir
Deoxys
Gen 4:
Lucario
Abomasnow
Croagunk
Garchomp
Gen 5:
Victini
Scrafty
Krookodile
Galvantula
Gen 6:
Greninja
Aegislash
Hawlucha
Xerneas
I think that'd be a good selection and variety but I think there will be more surprises and the roster will be a bit different than this list.
Gen 1:
Pikachu
Machamp
Charizard
Mewtwo
Gen 2:
Hitmontop
Sudowoodo
Tyranitar
Suicune
Gen 3:
Blaziken
Mawile
Gardevoir
Deoxys
Gen 4:
Lucario
Abomasnow
Croagunk
Garchomp
Gen 5:
Victini
Scrafty
Krookodile
Galvantula
Gen 6:
Greninja
Aegislash
Hawlucha
Xerneas
I think that'd be a good selection and variety but I think there will be more surprises and the roster will be a bit different than this list.
And to me, the pedigree of the maker will almost insure that this will be a good game. Harada hasn't let me down yet.
Totally thought they would go the Tekken route but delightfully surprised they went with the Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi third-person perspective. Hyper Beams and jumping Blizzards all around! Instead of a fighting game, it looks like the Pokemon Anime battles we've always wanted!
And I expected some quadrupeds to make it in the game, but Suicune never crossed my mind since it was so projectile-orientated. Gladly proven wrong!
And I expected some quadrupeds to make it in the game, but Suicune never crossed my mind since it was so projectile-orientated. Gladly proven wrong!
OricWindstar
Member
I'd wager the main Pokemon we can rule out are smaller ones, which are what a lot of the assists seem to be. Glad they're branching out beyond just bipedal Pokemon.
Yea for real. This is cool. Much more exciting than a re-skinned Tekken.
In Pokémon, you have crazy monsters with crazy abilities. Tekken is way too slow as a representation.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That's why he's good for it and why I wanted him in, plus attacks with his tail. Glad to see I got my wish
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Man this is looking good. Despite what some people have said, I like the whole realistic fur look on the Pokemon. It gives this game a unique art style. As for the gameplay, going for a DBZ/Tekken hybrid of fighting opens the door to more than just your basic fighting types and expected Pokemon to be in this game. I'm ready to see what Pokemon is in next.
At this point,Pikachu should the greatest strongest pokemon of all time.
He's been with Ash for who knows how long.
Probably at least lvl 400.
Super Stardust
Member
Looks good, need my charizard though
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
He got de-leveled in the black and white arc
bobbychalkers
Member
Just started to play catch up with the stream....
Holy shit I never knew I wanted this., they gotta throw this on Wii U so I have a chance to play it someday.
Holy shit I never knew I wanted this., they gotta throw this on Wii U so I have a chance to play it someday.