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[Attack You]

I just pulled the trigger on this deliciousness (MSI GE72VR), but I'm not as wow'ed by it as I thought I would be when I opened my game library and realized I had next to nothing that really required that much power. I think I just want a productivity laptop more than I want a gaming laptop right now. My partner-in-crime has the ridiculously expensive i7/1TB Surfacebook and she couldn't be happier with it. I could probably bribe her to let me toy around with it for a few hours. And, I really wanted to go into NaNoWriMo with some new kit, but the new Surfacebook won't be available until later in the month. I'd have to chew on a Chromebook for the time being, adding another $200.

Unfortunately, you just know that $2,400 Surfacebook is going to be the 256GB SSD, with the 1 TB breaking $3k again. Ugh.

 

[mcrommert]

Costs nearly a grand more than my fully souped up desktop which out-specs this thing. Microsoft, you dun fucked up on a colossal scale.

The stupidity on display in this comment is mind boggling

 

[centmoe]

The stupidity on display in this comment is mind boggling

Expect nothing less from gaf regarding Microsoft

 

[Levyne]

I just pulled the trigger on this deliciousness (MSI GE72VR), but I'm not as wow'ed by it as I thought I would be when I opened my game library and realized I had next to nothing that really required that much power. I think I just want a productivity laptop more than I want a gaming laptop right now. My partner-in-crime has the ridiculously expensive i7/1TB Surfacebook and she couldn't be happier with it. I could probably bribe her to let me toy around with it for a few hours. And, I really wanted to go into NaNoWriMo with some new kit, but the new Surfacebook won't be available until later in the month. I'd have to chew on a Chromebook for the time being, adding another $200.

Unfortunately, you just know that $2,400 Surfacebook is going to be the 256GB SSD, with the 1 TB breaking $3k again. Ugh.

Yep.

256 SSD 8 gb = 2400
512 SSD 16 gb = 2800
1 TB SSD 16 gb = 3300

I'll probably shoot for the lowest option imo. I have enough storage drives in the desktop /closet / cloud that 256 is plenty for the laptop.

 

[Rodin]

Not sure why they went with the 965M, competitors have used this GPU in older and cheaper laptops. The new Razer Blade has a 1060 and it's a very thin, lightweight, 14" ultrabook that retails for much less and i personally think that it looks even better. No thanks Microsoft.

 

[Hellgardia]

Curious to why they went with Maxwell. Lack of enough Pascal chips by the time they needed them?
Also, 2400$ and only 256GB ssd?...

 

[Marty Chinn]

It's kind of interesting how they dropped the lower tiers now. I guess everyone only wanted one with a dedicated GPU. Anyone know how hard it is to replace the SSD on your own?

 

[Levyne]

It's kind of interesting how they dropped the lower tiers now. I guess everyone only wanted one with a dedicated GPU. Anyone know how hard it is to replace the SSD on your own?

I actually wanted one without the dgpu. Grumble grumble.

 

[Sony]

You're joking right? There's much better Gaming Laptops that cost less than that.
I'll chalk it up-to the small form factor of the device.

Yeah, if you want it to look like this:

 

[Ac30]

Yeah, if you want it to look like this:

Have you seen the Razer Blade? Thing is incredibly thin for the hardware and unbelievably sleek. Plus it's cheaper too I'm pretty sure.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

Yep.

256 SSD 8 gb = 2400
512 SSD 16 gb = 2800
1 TB SSD 16 gb = 3300

I'll probably shoot for the lowest option imo. I have enough storage drives in the desktop /closet / cloud that 256 is plenty for the laptop.

A. Let's say you can expain the $2400 base model in a satisfying way (doubtful, but benefit of the doubt). How in the flying fuck does MS justify the $500 difference between the 512 GB SSD and the 1 TB? The $900 increase over the 256/8 is just as baffling.

That has to be mostly profit, right?

 

[Delusibeta]

Since people keep missing it.. the dGPU is a GTX 965M:

Essentially a 2 year old chip.

Yeah, no. The new Razor Blade packs in a GTX 1060 for noticeably less money, and should run rings around this with regards to gaming.

 

[dezzy8]

Wtf? 2400 dollars?

 

[Outrun]

Too expensive for what it is.

It's worked well for Apple....

 

[Hoo-doo]

I just pulled the trigger on this deliciousness (MSI GE72VR), but I'm not as wow'ed by it as I thought I would be when I opened my game library and realized I had next to nothing that really required that much power. I think I just want a productivity laptop more than I want a gaming laptop right now. My partner-in-crime has the ridiculously expensive i7/1TB Surfacebook and she couldn't be happier with it. I could probably bribe her to let me toy around with it for a few hours. And, I really wanted to go into NaNoWriMo with some new kit, but the new Surfacebook won't be available until later in the month. I'd have to chew on a Chromebook for the time being, adding another $200.

Unfortunately, you just know that $2,400 Surfacebook is going to be the 256GB SSD, with the 1 TB breaking $3k again. Ugh.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be caught dead with that monstrosity. Would rather spend a bit more and get something sleek and premium.

Laptop gaming is such a farce.

 

[bomblord1]

Have you seen the Razer Blade? Thing is incredibly thin for the hardware and unbelievably sleek. Plus it's cheaper too I'm pretty sure.

With a comparable screen? Not by much

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

With a comparable screen? Not by much
[IMG ]http://abload.de/img/captureqtsul.png[/IMG]

GTX1060 though

 

[Herp Derpington]

I'm not sure a few here understand the market MS is aiming this at. If you're making snide comments about cost/performance/etc it's clearly not aimed at you and that's ok. Some people drive an Accord and others drive an S class. The two can coexist.

Have you seen the Razer Blade? Thing is incredibly thin for the hardware and unbelievably sleek. Plus it's cheaper too I'm pretty sure.

Does it have a detachable screen I can use as a tablet around the office?

 

[Mexen]

Way too expensive IMHO. There are great alternatives for $600-$800.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

So dumb question, the 970M outperforms the 965M yes?

 

[CrispyBoar]

"For the gamers?" For $2400 you can buy something a hell of a lot more powerful than this.

No kidding. You can build a very decent gaming PC that will last you a decade or more at that price range.

 

[Levyne]

I'm not sure a few here understand the market MS is aiming this at. If you're making snide comments about cost/performance/etc it's clearly not aimed at you and that's ok. Some people drive an Accord and others drive an S class. The two can coexist.



Does it have a detachable screen I can use as a tablet around the office?

To be fair, I feel like microsoft shouldnt have mentioned "for the gamer", but I get why they did. But now people are fixated on the gpu of the thing, I feel.

If I got one of these, it would be more expensive than my gtx 1080 gaming pc, but I wouldn't be expecting this to replace it.

 

[Ac30]

I'm not sure a few here understand the market MS is aiming this at. If you're making snide comments about cost/performance/etc it's clearly not aimed at you and that's ok. Some people drive an Accord and others drive an S class. The two can coexist.



Does it have a detachable screen I can use as a tablet around the office?

Oh I agree it's for different applications; I was just giving an example of a laptop that doesn't scream GAM3R. The detachable screen is incredibly useful when required.

 

[dLMN8R]

No kidding. You can build a very decent gaming PC that will last you a decade or more at that price range.

Very cool! I didn't realize that you can build gaming PCs these days which have integrated 3000x2000 displays, weighed under 4lbs, and had a detachable screen you could use as a 13.5" 1.6lb tablet at any time!

Where can I buy those gaming PCs? And when was the last one that lasted a decade?

 

[Sony]

Also, keep in mind that Surface products were never indended to compete with existing offerings in terms of price, but be a premium alternatives to show what is possible. So if you liked what the Surface Book showed and dediced to go for a Razer Blade because of that (price/performance conciderations) then Microsoft already succeeded in their objective. They want you to buy a Windows laptop, not neccecarily a Surface product.

 

[dragonelite]

Very cool! I didn't realize that you can build gaming PCs these days which have integrated 3000x2000 displays, weighed under 4lbs, and had a detachable screen you could use as a 13.5" 1.6lb tablet at any time!

Where can I buy those gaming PCs? And when was the last one that lasted a decade?

People also forget that a lot of folks with disposable income do want to pay some
extra to have a more premium looking device. I rather have a more premium looking device these days then back when i was a student and all that counted was performance/$ in shaky gaming laptop case.

 

[Suzushiiro]

Have you seen the Razer Blade? Thing is incredibly thin for the hardware and unbelievably sleek. Plus it's cheaper too I'm pretty sure.

I have the 2015 Razer Blade. I love it, but it's super loud when doing anything remotely stressful and has a mediocre battery life even when not gaming. I doubt that the SB1.5 is quiet as a mouse or lasts 16 hours when running that CPU and GPU at full power, but it's probably leagues better than the Blade in those departments.

 

[Dark-VIII]

For 2000$ yiu can get an I7 6700K with GTX 1080 and 16 gb of ram with every other needed parts excluding the screen which you can get with 400$

 

[Levyne]

For 2000$ yiu can get an I7 6700K with GTX 1080 and 16 gb of ram with every other needed parts excluding the screen which you can get with 400$

Edit: Needlessly snarky.

But that's kinda irrelevant. That wouldn't even be a laptop.

 

[KonradLaw]

Seems nice, but lol at the part about it being for gamers. As always Microsoft shows that it has zero idea about pcgaming

 

[Rootbeer]

It's worked well for Apple....

You are right. But I think this just goes to show the arrogance on MS's part, that they can ask Apple prices when their mindshare is nowhere near at the same level... they need to compete on price better than this. Or if you are going to charge this kind of price, please make it top of the line.

I want to buy a really nice Windows notebook soon and I'm not sure this is it. Probably not. Maybe the next Surface Pro will entice me.

 

[Heysoos]

Seems nice, but lol at the part about it being for gamers. As always Microsoft shows that it has zero idea about pcgaming

How so? The 965m isn't exactly a slouch. Especially for the form factor and the fact that it can be a detachable tablet. This seems more like a refresh to hold over for the Surface Book 2.

 

[LOLCats]

2400$!?! LOL cmon guys.

 

[BootlegSnackz]

this was more of a spec refresh than any sort of redesign... not even adding USB C support. If they sold the keyboard alone this would be a day one buy for me...


but as it stands i'll wait for the next revision which should have:

Kaby Lake CPU
Pascal GPU
Some USB Type C ports
Maybe a full SD slot instead of a half
a design where the hinge closes all the way to prevent dust build up on the keyboard.

that's my wishlist anyway.

still love it, but boy if I don't yearn to always be on the bleeding edge. My wallet thanks me this year tho.

 

[ss_lemonade]

Yeah, if you want it to look like this:

I have a gaming laptop that looks nothing like that. I was (and probably still will if I can find someone interested) also selling it for $1000

 

[Aurongel]

Expect nothing less from gaf regarding Microsoft

It's like some people's knowledge of Microsoft as a company had a cutoff date around 2009. Their Surface division has been doing quite well lately.

 

[KonradLaw]

How so? The 965m isn't exactly a slouch. Especially for the form factor and the fact that it can be a detachable tablet. This seems more like a refresh to hold over for the Surface Book 2.

965 is weak for laptop claiming to be for gamers and the resolution of screen is also pretty bad idea. That gpu won't handle it natively at that res and 1920x will look bad on it because of scalling. To get good quality of image you will need to cut the screen res in four

 

[Coffinhal]

It's not really for gamers. It's for occasional gaming, it's a bonus, it's not a Razor or Alienware or whatever. It's for people who need the best screen, something that can work as a tablet and can last a day or a day and a half without recharching. Also design is important.

I'll gladly replace my Macbook with this (I mean the version from 2015 at 1400&#8364 if Apple doesn't come with something as good soon.

edit : just saw that Apple is going full USB-C on the next MacbookPro, without MagSafe (the useful magnet for recharge), I don't want to have 35 adapters with me thank you very much

 

[Doffen]

You are right. But I think this just goes to show the arrogance on MS's part, that they can ask Apple prices when their mindshare is nowhere near at the same level... they need to compete on price better than this. Or if you are going to charge this kind of price, please make it top of the line.

I want to buy a really nice Windows notebook soon and I'm not sure this is it. Probably not. Maybe the next Surface Pro will entice me.

They clearly don't need it compete on price.

Surface Book and for that matter Surface Studio is design for a high-end niche marked.

 

[Rappy]

965 is weak for laptop claiming to be for gamers and the resolution of screen is also pretty bad idea. That gpu won't handle it natively at that res and 1920x will look bad on it because of scalling. To get good quality of image you will need to cut the screen res in four

Or you know, it's not trying to do that at all. Just watch the section of the presentation dealing with the Surface Book.

 

[boltz]

Damn, a bunch of folks are acting like they've never seen a four figure laptop before. Sure, there are cheaper alternatives, but not with the same packaging and specs. This device is out of my price range, but I can appreciate all the hardware that's stuffed into the form factor.

 

[AR15mex]

Just out of curiosity isnt the ps4 2.3 TF? In other words they are selling ps4 level graphics for a lot of maneeeeey!!!

 

[gamz]

Just out of curiosity isnt the ps4 2.3 TF? In other words they are selling ps4 level graphics for a lot of maneeeeey!!!

That's a bizarre comparison.

 

[bomblord1]

Just out of curiosity isnt the ps4 2.3 TF? In other words they are selling ps4 level graphics for a lot of maneeeeey!!!

PS4 is 1.8TF and is outperformed by an Nvidia 750ti this which this is better than.

This should be above PS4 level in multiplats

 

[Oregano]

Wow, 4 times more powerful than Switch, 5 times battery life

Spoiler

and only 10 times the price.

 

[Angry Goat]

1.9TF? Should have named it the Scorpio Book.

 

[AR15mex]

Just out of curiosity isnt the ps4 2.3 TF? In other words they are selling ps4 level graphics for a lot of maneeeeey!!!

 

[Gestault]

If you travel and have the disposable income, this is a rock-solid offering. Comparisons to desktops are out-of-place, and there's a gulf in quality/support when it comes to the high-end laptop market.

 

[ty_hot]

People complaining about price... The base model costs a lot but nothing else gives the same quality and premium feel. The jump in proce for adding ram or ssd is bery big as well, but its comparable to the iphone 32 to 64 gb of space as well. Everything is within the industry tendency. It is just sad that 95% of us dont have the money for it.

 

[elohel]

Looks like a great line of machines