JoshuaJSlone
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I don't recall trying it with the fat, but I know I used it with Micro; I wanted to see how ridiculous it looked.Somnid said:
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Next Nintendo DS: Camera, Music Playback and confirmed by Nikkei
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Lindsay said:
The DS got a camera during summer 2007 :lol
Stumpokapow said:
Aaaannd the PSP had one in 2006 apparently?
Besides PSP-3000 is getting a built-in camera and now the DS is how suspicious! (not!)
What if this actually really is the DS2, which means that there is no DS2?
This might sound strange, and I don't know whether or not it's feasible, but what about this: Instead of releasing a completely new generation of systems every few years, which is basically a new deal and could result in a loss of market leadership, Nintendo only releases revisions every so often. Some of these revisions are not only cosmetic, but encompass actual hardware upgrades as well. Not a redesign, just upgrades - slightly more powerful, a few additional features, but still binary compatible. They'd encourage developers to actually use that additional horsepower, but won't allow them to require it. Every new DS game should offer improved graphics on the latest hardware revision, but still has to run on the standard DS. Basically similar to how PC development works, the DS becomes the "minimum spec", the DS2 would be the "recommended spec".
This might sound strange, and I don't know whether or not it's feasible, but what about this: Instead of releasing a completely new generation of systems every few years, which is basically a new deal and could result in a loss of market leadership, Nintendo only releases revisions every so often. Some of these revisions are not only cosmetic, but encompass actual hardware upgrades as well. Not a redesign, just upgrades - slightly more powerful, a few additional features, but still binary compatible. They'd encourage developers to actually use that additional horsepower, but won't allow them to require it. Every new DS game should offer improved graphics on the latest hardware revision, but still has to run on the standard DS. Basically similar to how PC development works, the DS becomes the "minimum spec", the DS2 would be the "recommended spec".
Somnid said:
NotThisCrapAgain.jpg
* Digital out isn't a gameplay mechanic, and it was to reduce the cost of the system 500 yen to compensate for the new Japanese law that required sales tax to be included in the price of an item. Nintendo was too cheap to just lower the price of the system, so they removed the digital out.
* GBM was never meant to replace the GBASP (like I believe the DS Next to not replace the DS). The GBM was also a sales failure due to its lowered feature set and higher price.
* You could still use headphones on a GBASP. You just had to buy a proprietary plug-in from Nintendo to do so.
* GBM. See previous point.
* The eReader worked with all the GBAs. You just had to do some form modifications to get it into the GBASP. Support was dropped (WHERE'S MY SERIES 3 AND 4 SMB3 CARDS, NINTENDO!?!) which is why they didn't go out of their way to make it seamlessly work with future handhelds.
Again, Nintendo are not idiots. The GBA slot will remain.
Rumble Pack. GBA game extras on DS games. Band Brothers expansion. Paddle controller. Mag-kid. Facening Training. DS Browser. Guitar Hero.
POKEMON
Can we drop this stupid line of thinking now, please?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Lindsay said:
You think Nintendo got a hardware revision from R&D to market in fewer than 6 months?
Wait... what are you even talking about? The PSP 3000 doesn't have a built-in camera.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Lindsay said:
Really? I had no idea.
Too bad the PSP-3000 wont have build in GPS.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I would buy a DS if it looked as slick as the last two.
Then I would do things with it that would make me worthy of my tag.
Then I would do things with it that would make me worthy of my tag.
Stumpokapow said:
The not! was serious not sarcastic btw but anyway I'm dumb see below!
Hcoregamer00 said:
Oh wait no its a built-in microphone n/m! x_x
donny2112 said:
THIS!!!!!! I bought into all of Nintendo's GBA scams...
e-reader? HAHA WE WILL BARELY SUPPORT THIS
gbplayer? NO IT WON'T WORK WITH THE REVOLUTION
gba video? WE SELL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THESE THEN DECIDE TO STOP FOR NO REASON (granted this wasn't Nintendo-specific but still)
But I did still enjoy 'em all for what they were worth~
TheGrayGhost
Banned
Is this a redesign or the next handheld from Nintendo?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Seems more like a redesign, but I suppose we'll find out soon enough.TheGrayGhost said:
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
wsippel said:
dunno about the graphics, but i'm pretty sure some new titles will require some of that new functionality, graphics-related or not. and the moment they do that, they'll face the quintessential dilemma of the pc game reality: do new games target the top 10% of the market, or do they try and expand downwards?
and here comes the console reality - with the generational leaps, where new software runs only on the latest hw, but latest hw is often capable to do old software. i think the next ds (with new features and all) will not differ much from that model - it will just be nintendo's own handgeld quasi-generation - nintendo have the luxury to define their own handheld generations as they wish.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
TheGrayGhost said:
I hope it is the latter, just because I want to see Nintendo on a more powerful system, but the former is just as good because my DS lite has a hinge crack and a dead L button.
ThatObviousUser
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I said wow!
And it could even arbitrarily put a line of seperation in the middle of the screen in "vertical/button mode" to play old DS games too! Touch-screen-only mode would be awesome too.
NINTENDO, USE THIS DESIGN
Edit- Wow, everything in the mockup apart from the date falls almost exactly within the report by Nikkei. This person must have inside info or something.
TheGrayGhost
Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
Me too.
The DS/Wii connection via the SD sounds intriguing. If it is what I think it is, allowing you to play VC games on the go, than that is the most fucking genius move in the history of this business. It would make the WiiShop Channel the hub for all of Nintendo-dom. I mean, right now, many Wii owners don't even know the service exists, and this connectivity would rectify that problem in the best possible way. Sadly, this is unlikely. MASSIVE changes would have to be made, I think, especially if the game has a multiplayer mode (wouldn't they have to add code for wireless gameplay?)
TheGrayGhost
Banned
Hcoregamer00 said:
I think expecting GameCube-level graphics on DS hardware is unrealistic for many reasons. One, it would make handheld development costs rise. Two, 3D gameplay is not conducive to handheld gameplay and handheld demographics.
Lindsay said:
The eReader was great. Mario Party-e was a blast! Animal Crossing cards were really fun, especially the Nintendo Power inserts. I wish they had brought the Pikmin cards over and actually done the Game & Watch lineup, too. They gave away Air Hockey cards at the Cube Clubs, and the game was hard but fun! eReader was a ton of fun for a "failure" platform.
I only bought a few GBA videos, but I liked them. You had to be into cartoons to have a good shot at enjoying it, though, as the only live action piece I saw on GBA video was a pixelated mess.
GBPlayer is good if you just have to play GBA and below games on your TV. I still like it.
*toasts the "GBA scams"*
realraptor
Member
Well there's your Wii storage solution. They'd rather you play your VC games on a redesigned handheld then letting it go for "free." So I guess it's a mini fridge in addition to your fridge.
realraptor said:
I just realized the exact same thing. It's a good stopgap measure, but too many N64/WiiWare games will still fill up a Wii's flash memory.
Jaruru said:- bigger screens and get them close to each other
That would break all DS games that had action across both screens. No deal.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
well, if that mini fridge would be able to play content off its SD slot then it wouldn't be so clear which of the two fridges is the 'mini' ; )realraptor said:
edit: ok, i was jesting with the above, assuming a fictional scenario and all, but it just struck me real hard:
the listed wake-on-wifi feature of the new ds makes it a _very_ plausible candidate for a network-storage solution! if we assume the device will normally go 'deep sleep' (like it does now at closing the lid), rather than a complete power-off, then the ds2 (sorry, but i'm assuming this nomenclature for simplicity from here on) will need just be somewhere within wifi reach of your wii, and the wii will be able to activate it and use it as external (possibly secure) storage. that'd be brilliant.
Eteric Rice
Member
blu said:
IT WOULD BE LIKE A TARDIS WITHIN A TARDIS.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
[Nintex] said:
Shhh, don't give 'em ideas ffs! :-/
blu said:
WOW.
That'd be genius.
Go get them tiger!
(And make them pay you big bucks)
Yikes!
This thing could have some sort of Virtual Handheld announced for it with that SD/Wii support, as well as an AIM/Skype-like PictoChat now. And seeing how awesome the GameBoy Camera was, I have faith that whatever Nintendo does with this DS re-design will lead to great games or applications.
But yeah, I think a DSlite price drop to $100 with this DS priced at $150 would be killer.
This thing could have some sort of Virtual Handheld announced for it with that SD/Wii support, as well as an AIM/Skype-like PictoChat now. And seeing how awesome the GameBoy Camera was, I have faith that whatever Nintendo does with this DS re-design will lead to great games or applications.
But yeah, I think a DSlite price drop to $100 with this DS priced at $150 would be killer.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
TheGrayGhost said:
I would agree with you, but the DS doesn't have enough 2D games.
Nothing would make me happier than having the DS be the 2D powerhouse, but developers are making mainly 3D games. Since they are doing that, I prefer that Nintendo should go forward with a more powerful handheld, since they don't want to push the 2D boundaries beyond games like Castlevania and Phoenix Wright.
Heck, they could have done that easily with the Valkyrie Profile game for the DS, instead they go in a direction that is not as 2D friendly.
Jonnyboy117
Member
Rewrite said:
You don't know what "happy" means until owning a DS Lite.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
HK-47 said:
Too bad that other console companies seem to have forgotten this long held hardware philosophy.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
pfft, Phat lovers unite!Jonnyboy117 said:
Death_Born
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
*cricket chirp*
comedy bomb
Banned
Those mock-ups are all sexy, but I don't see the two screens being different sizes.
A Link to the Past
Banned
If this is revealed in their Oct. 2nd conference, there's definitely going to be new games, assuming the whole "games making use of the camera" thing pans out. No way you'd announce a feature and not even announce any game to take advantage of it.
So what will be announced? I bet a Brain Age game that will support a Mii-like format with the camera function.
But the camera thing will definitely be a good idea with the Photo Channel - a convenient way to move pictures to your Wii.
So what will be announced? I bet a Brain Age game that will support a Mii-like format with the camera function.
But the camera thing will definitely be a good idea with the Photo Channel - a convenient way to move pictures to your Wii.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Rewrite
Not as deep as he thinks
I know what happy is. I'm happy with it. I've played my friend's DS Lites and I just don't see the need to upgrade for a brighter screen. Maybe when my Phat completely stops working I'll buy a Lite, but until that day happens I'm sticking with it.Jonnyboy117 said:
High 5!grandjedi6 said:
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Nuclear Muffin said:
I like it
Edit: Where would the L and R buttons be located?
ThatObviousUser
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Nuclear Muffin said:
Holy hand-cramping fugly, Batman!
I only have a Phat...
I also had a mini DS revival earlier this summer when I bought an Action Replay DS (re-igniting my love for Pokemon Diamond), The World Ends With You (amazing), and Space Invaders Extreme. Now, with this apparent re-design coming out, I can't wait to use it with Chrono Trigger, Moon, the new Castlevania and Kirby games, etc.
I also had a mini DS revival earlier this summer when I bought an Action Replay DS (re-igniting my love for Pokemon Diamond), The World Ends With You (amazing), and Space Invaders Extreme. Now, with this apparent re-design coming out, I can't wait to use it with Chrono Trigger, Moon, the new Castlevania and Kirby games, etc.