a 660 is around PS4 level in terms of pure power but again PS4 is a customized APU configuration so the bandwidth is going to be different, access to VRAM different ect
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Nier: Automata PC performance thread
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a 660 is around PS4 level in terms of pure power but again PS4 is a customized APU configuration so the bandwidth is going to be different, access to VRAM different ect
paperspace
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LelouchZero
Member
Wow, why is it running like that? Even at 720p?
Yeah because Tflops are great indicators of real performance and last time I checked a Fury X easily beat a 1070.
A 265 is pretty much exactly on par with the PS4 GPU. Or using more common cards: PS4 GPU is between a 7850 and a 7870.
You shouldn't use old Nvidia cards to compare because performance vs AMD equivalents took a drop as the generation progressed, at least for multiplatform games. Not because Nvidia sabotaged their drivers like some say but probably because multiplat developers started playing on the strengths of AMD hardware more. Just look at what happened to Kepler.
As a sidenote, the AO option even includes post processing AA, which makes the AA option unnecessary when downsampling (the AA option even adds jaggies in some situations too).
I'm honestly really surprised at these numbers. Maybe the VRAM is bottlenecking it? Only reason why I can think of that the 760 would be doing so much worse than say, my HD7950.
Pretty sure your 7950 easily beats a 760 nowadays in multiplatform titles. Kepler aged really bad.
SunhiLegend
Member
Damn, there hasn't been a game I've played this gen on my GTX 760 that I couldn't beat out the PS4, and there's no reason it shouldn't, a GTX 760 is more powerful but when it can't even match the PS4 that's a bad port. I'll most likely end up getting this for the console instead.
sunhi doesn't already own the game??
SunhiLegend
Member
Nah, I brought Horizon so I'm too busy with that at the moment, hoping to pick this up later in the year.
Was hoping to get it for PC instead but performance doesn't look too hot on older cards.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
anyone else having trouble getting Nvidia (whatever they are calling shadowplay now) to hook. I wanna save some video but I cant seem to get it to do shit with nier
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Have zero issues and game is running butter smooth for me
i5-4690k *not overclocked*
GTX 1070
16g ram
Max settings, vsync off, 1080p
Not even getting the LOD issue I've been seeing people post in videos
i5-4690k *not overclocked*
GTX 1070
16g ram
Max settings, vsync off, 1080p
Not even getting the LOD issue I've been seeing people post in videos
LelouchZero
Member
If you're running the game in a borderless window try and use the desktop capture setting in Shadowplay.
BuckRobotron
Member
I've noted how it works on my 750ti and have suggested when asked that yeah buy on PS4 first if you have the choice (I have it on both). I play normally with most settings on moderate at 720p now and it is not ideal but certainly playable, while boosting everything up for screenshots when the whim hits. As Durante suggested, one can often be surprised by how 750ti performs relative to PS4...but apparently a good i5 can't entirely help on this one.
I'm now at sorta gameplay spoilers
25% quest log, choosing to trigger the closing sections of Route A
Add: keep in mind I went in fully aware I'm working with below suggested spec here
just use the steam fps counter and set the shadowplay option to record desktop. thats how i record mine. recording interface should still pop up.
TheSpoiler
Member
Sometimes my computer kinda runs a little hot with this game. Like 65 degrees.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
hmm...works for video, but im not getting sound
EDIT: NVM fixed it. thanks guys
iHaunter
Member
Plugged in or Bluetooth?
DarKshodaN
Member
Guys i fixed my stuttering Problem, i just capped my framerate to 60FPS with the Riva Tuner Tool, and now this Game runs smooth as butter on my i7 6700 with a gtx 1070, i am so happy right now
Feeling like an idiot that i don't tried this before
Feeling like an idiot that i don't tried this before
Read the thread. Use Borderless gaming. There's a bug related to the fullscreen mode.
Guys i fixed my stuttering Problem, i just capped my framerate to 60FPS with the Riva Tuner Tool, and now this Game runs smooth as butter on my i7 6700 with a gtx 1070, i am so happy right now
Feeling like an idiot that i don't tried this before
RTSS is the best kind of magic.
That's not hot in terms of GPU heat.
Yeah my 1060 hits 83.
dieandromeda
Neo Member
Guys i fixed my stuttering Problem, i just capped my framerate to 60FPS with the Riva Tuner Tool, and now this Game runs smooth as butter on my i7 6700 with a gtx 1070, i am so happy right now
Feeling like an idiot that i don't tried this before
in addition, check your frame time in msi after burner/other apps, usually set 59 fps will produce better frametime
DarKshodaN
Member
Yes,can't believe how smooth this game now is
Thanks for the tip! will check it out later
Wouldn't that feel worse though?
dieandromeda
Neo Member
nope. it will stabilize frame time, even decrease input lag as well. anyhow, u should check monitoring graph.
yeah played through the desert area and so far my 1060 gtx (oc'ed) and i5-3570k on a SSD, win 7 runs this game pretty consistently at 1080p60, haven't gotten a single crash either, have the game maxed out with no MSAA, injected slight lumasharpen with reshade just to balance the small blur that comes with the game's post processed AA.
game is great!
game is great!
80 is hot. 65 is totally normal.
Robobandit
Member
Pretty simple to force it to use your 1060 via a profile in the nvidia control panel under 3D settings. would be surprised if you haven't ever had to do it before w/ other games.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Make sure it's added to your favorites in Borderless Gaming, then relaunch the program. Should start out windowed, then go fullscreen after a couple seconds.
I got through the first boss in the desert. My framerates in the desert were much better than the city. Overall, I fairly consistently get 40-50 fps, dropping to the 30s in the city sometimes on this system.
Intel Core i5-2500k @ 4.3 GHz
GTX 770
16GB DDR3
My settings:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen mode: Window (Borderless using Borderless Gaming)
Vsync: Off
Graphics Preset: Custom (but started at Medium)
AA: Off
Texture Filter: 8x (I probably could go 16 here, need to give it a try)
Blur: Off (I was never really a fan of excessive motion blur and it hurts the framerate anyway)
Shadows: Medium
Effects: High
AO: Off
Edit: When I started the game, this made me go wtf:
I ended up using "Hylian7"
Intel Core i5-2500k @ 4.3 GHz
GTX 770
16GB DDR3
My settings:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Screen mode: Window (Borderless using Borderless Gaming)
Vsync: Off
Graphics Preset: Custom (but started at Medium)
AA: Off
Texture Filter: 8x (I probably could go 16 here, need to give it a try)
Blur: Off (I was never really a fan of excessive motion blur and it hurts the framerate anyway)
Shadows: Medium
Effects: High
AO: Off
Edit: When I started the game, this made me go wtf:
I ended up using "Hylian7"
First Nvidia card in like 10 years.
Also first proper gaming laptop ever, first time this has ever come up
Edit: that fixed it thanks
Robobandit
Member
ahh ok. yeah, this is a common issue w/ games and laptops with nvidia's "optimus" technology.
glad you got it going
Guys i fixed my stuttering Problem, i just capped my framerate to 60FPS with the Riva Tuner Tool, and now this Game runs smooth as butter on my i7 6700 with a gtx 1070, i am so happy right now
Feeling like an idiot that i don't tried this before
Doesn't do shit for me.
I'm experimenting with custom SLI profiles for the game. If someone wants to give this a shot, go right ahead:
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It's DX11 of course. Remember to set SLI_PREDEFINED_GPU_COUNT_DX10_FOUR and SLI_PREDEFINED_MODE_DX10_FORCE_AFR.
Note that this requires fullscreen, so expect to deal with funky aspect ratios. Always set your display scaling in the control panel ("Adjust desktop size and position") to "Aspect ratio", perform scaling on GPU, and override scaling mode set by games and programs. This will result in black bars, but it's better than having a stretched aspect ratio.
0x080070F5
It's DX11 of course. Remember to set SLI_PREDEFINED_GPU_COUNT_DX10_FOUR and SLI_PREDEFINED_MODE_DX10_FORCE_AFR.
Note that this requires fullscreen, so expect to deal with funky aspect ratios. Always set your display scaling in the control panel ("Adjust desktop size and position") to "Aspect ratio", perform scaling on GPU, and override scaling mode set by games and programs. This will result in black bars, but it's better than having a stretched aspect ratio.
Figured out what's causing the fullscreen issue, paged Kaldaien about it, expect a proper fix soon.
Anyone know the best way to contact Square Enix support about this? Given the current state of Steam forums, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they haven't been able to hear about this issue; they're definitely not gonna find that post (though it is something the devs should be able to figure out themselves pretty quickly anyway).
(Edit: have contacted EU support via their website, but if anyone has a more direct way...)
Anyone know the best way to contact Square Enix support about this? Given the current state of Steam forums, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they haven't been able to hear about this issue; they're definitely not gonna find that post (though it is something the devs should be able to figure out themselves pretty quickly anyway).
(Edit: have contacted EU support via their website, but if anyone has a more direct way...)
Same problem, anyone has any luck fixing thing?
https://youtu.be/-KaaC8vc8_A
This video shows the 1080ti cant handle the game running at 4k and 60fps. This is on high, though. Anyone know if lowering settings gets the game running at 60?
If not, this might be the first 4k 60 game the 1080ti cant handle?
This video shows the 1080ti cant handle the game running at 4k and 60fps. This is on high, though. Anyone know if lowering settings gets the game running at 60?
If not, this might be the first 4k 60 game the 1080ti cant handle?
toastyToast
Member
I wasn't crashing yesterday but now I played for about 40 minutes-ish and crashed twice.
Robobandit
Member
high puts on 8x MSAA. try turning AA off and see if that helps.
I'm running a Titan Pascal and my card can't do 60 fps @ 4k either. w/ AA turned off I get in the 40s or high 30s depending on the area.
"High" includes 8xMSAA. That alone is a massive performance penalty (just due to the nature of things). Lowering it to 4x should increase performance by ~30% alone, and much more than that for lower factors or turning it off.
No, there are plenty if you talk about "max settings".
longdi
Banned
Game looks fantastic. I really need to finish Nier
How is performance with a 980 Ti (1400mhz) in 1440p? 60fps on highest settings? Any drops? My CPU is a Xeon 1230.
Same gpu, running at 1440p highest settings besides AA at 2x, it is not locked 60fps in the first open world level, guessing drops to around 30fps vsync at times. My cpu is 5960 @ 4.5. Not a good performance port imo.
TW3 also runs about 45-60fps in open world, but at a higher 1600p res and i can disable vsync. Automata needs vysnc if not the tearing is very noticeable
Updated my drivers and OC'd a little bit, got a pretty consistent 60 FPS on 1440p with a GTX 1080. Only some very minor drops when it's data streaming or in very very specific areas I guess. Seems to be the best setup I can muster for quality/performance, unless someone finds a good working SLI profile.
Still can't do even 2x AA though, which is strange cause other people are saying they can do 2x AA without any dips on a 1080 with 1440p. Not sure why my experience is different. Doesn't really bug me because with 1440p the jaggies are mostly gone, and it seems to cause some weird issues on the grass, but kind of a bummer.
Agreeing that I love the fact they implemented MSAA and not some evil post processing solution (FXAA) though.
Still can't do even 2x AA though, which is strange cause other people are saying they can do 2x AA without any dips on a 1080 with 1440p. Not sure why my experience is different. Doesn't really bug me because with 1440p the jaggies are mostly gone, and it seems to cause some weird issues on the grass, but kind of a bummer.
Agreeing that I love the fact they implemented MSAA and not some evil post processing solution (FXAA) though.
To be fair, labelling the settings correctly would've been a good start. People seem to think the game only has postprocess AA, and the AO option messes with that somehow, whereas in reality the AA option controls MSAA and
Nevermind, the AO option toggles both 'live' AO and postprocess AA, see Durante's later post. Reason I thought it wasn't doing anything is that some areas rely on prebaked AO, which isn't affected.